Trip To The Ghetto

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[quote]Sifu wrote:
Gerg wrote:
MsM wrote:

I don’t know if I’d say the scariest. My ex used to live right at Van Dyk and 11 Mile Rd, which is not that far away from some of these neighborhoods. I have seen them, many times and although I will not lie and say that I was not scared, Atlanta is, by far, much worse. I also used to date a man there and a driving through these neighborhoods in a BMW is asking to get shot or worse. Honestly, I thought that I was going to die there. The only reason we even did drive through there was because he was licensed to carry a concealed weapon and to avoid traffic jams for hours on end. I will NEVER do that again. Talk about an idiotic idea.

Van Dyke and 11th isn’t bad at all, thats Sterling, I think. How bad can a place be with a Dunlkin Doughnuts and a Olive Garden. Even the greasy spoons on Van Dyke are okay. The bad doesn’t happen until after 8 mile road, and progessively crappier as you hit, and go past 94. ( I spent a couple of years going to Detroit monthly as a contractor for Daimler Chrysler).

Did you go down by jefferson, south of the airport?
Not a great place. The weidest thing is from there, two miles or so away from the Daimler Plants is Gross Point, a really nicer area. So you drive and within two blocks, you go from bars on the windows to 1/4 mil houses and up. Strange layout.
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11 and VD is not a bad area. GM has it’s research and development center there. I worked on the south side of 8 and VD for a couple of years, that could be bad. 7 mile was worse. [quote]
Not far is the Daimler Plant where they make the Ram truck, and at VD and 8th if you head east and take the 1st right is the Viper plant. You didn’t by chance work there? That would be weird coincidence.

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When I lived near this place near I94 the neighborhood wasn’t so nice.
http://www.urbandecay.ca/Files/Content/Detroit/Detroit/Urban%20Decay/d72.jpg[quote]

I know that place…I just can’t remember where it is.

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One thing I have learned about Detroit is you can be in a area that looks run down on a nice sunny day in the summer with a nice cool breeze coming in off of the river and just as you start thinking this isn’t so bad things can change.

That is the thing with the ghetto. Things can seem not so bad, nice even, then in a moment things can flipout. You have to have your wits about you. In some ways it’s not as bad as you see on tv shows like The Wire. Then out of nowhere something can happen. [quote]

I agree, except sometimes its crazy all of time.

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My advice is don’t get too curious about the ghetto.[/quote]

3rd.

EDIT: Sorry, I added the “/quote” thing to the copies comments, but it didn’t work. any suggestions?

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If you’re in Toronto, just go to Jane & Finch, Rexdale, Regent Park, or Malvern. Sure they’re nothing compared to US ghettos, but they’re pretty bad still.

Or like one poster said, go to Buffalo. I was there 2 weeks ago, and drove through some not-so friendly looking areas.

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[quote]Gerg wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Gerg wrote:
MsM wrote:

I don’t know if I’d say the scariest. My ex used to live right at Van Dyk and 11 Mile Rd, which is not that far away from some of these neighborhoods. I have seen them, many times and although I will not lie and say that I was not scared, Atlanta is, by far, much worse. I also used to date a man there and a driving through these neighborhoods in a BMW is asking to get shot or worse. Honestly, I thought that I was going to die there. The only reason we even did drive through there was because he was licensed to carry a concealed weapon and to avoid traffic jams for hours on end. I will NEVER do that again. Talk about an idiotic idea.

Van Dyke and 11th isn’t bad at all, thats Sterling, I think. How bad can a place be with a Dunlkin Doughnuts and a Olive Garden. Even the greasy spoons on Van Dyke are okay. The bad doesn’t happen until after 8 mile road, and progessively crappier as you hit, and go past 94. ( I spent a couple of years going to Detroit monthly as a contractor for Daimler Chrysler).

Did you go down by jefferson, south of the airport?
Not a great place. The weidest thing is from there, two miles or so away from the Daimler Plants is Gross Point, a really nicer area. So you drive and within two blocks, you go from bars on the windows to 1/4 mil houses and up. Strange layout.

11 and VD is not a bad area. GM has it’s research and development center there. I worked on the south side of 8 and VD for a couple of years, that could be bad. 7 mile was worse.
Not far is the Daimler Plant where they make the Ram truck, and at VD and 8th if you head east and take the 1st right is the Viper plant. You didn’t by chance work there? That would be weird coincidence.

When I lived near this place near I94 the neighborhood wasn’t so nice.
http://www.urbandecay.ca/Files/Content/Detroit/Detroit/Urban%20Decay/d72.jpg

I know that place…I just can’t remember where it is.

One thing I have learned about Detroit is you can be in a area that looks run down on a nice sunny day in the summer with a nice cool breeze coming in off of the river and just as you start thinking this isn’t so bad things can change.

That is the thing with the ghetto. Things can seem not so bad, nice even, then in a moment things can flipout. You have to have your wits about you. In some ways it’s not as bad as you see on tv shows like The Wire. Then out of nowhere something can happen.

I agree, except sometimes its crazy all of time.

My advice is don’t get too curious about the ghetto.

3rd.

EDIT: Sorry, I added the “/quote” thing to the copies comments, but it didn’t work. any suggestions?[/quote]

You have to bracket the part you want quoted like this.[qoute] [/qoute] (quote is spelled wrong on purpose so it shows up)

Is that place on Trumbull? My dad used to have an office down on Trumbull, they had a fenced lot and he had a car alarm, and he still couldn’t keep a radio in it.

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I have cousins in Missisauga. Toronto is a beautiful city, I love it there. Canada is is not like Detroit.

However, Windsor Canada across the river from Detroit in many ways is like how Detroit used to be. The same developer who built many of Detroits subdivisions in the ten, twenties and thirtites built a lot of Windsors neighborhoods. The houses look just like Detroit houses but they are still in nice condition.

One thing about Windsor is you have to watch your ass so you don’t get assaulted. They might not have many shootings in Canada but I know tons of people from Detroit who have Canada assault stories to tell. Canadians will just assault complete strangers walking down the street without provocation.

Personally I think it is a result of the lack of firearms. It makes people feel fearless so they start shit for no reason. Here in America people are a little more reluctant to start something because of the possibiity of it escalating. I have also noticed that a lot of people here will try to defuse situations, so they don’t get out of hand.

Gerg I didn’t work at Chrysler, but I know where you are talking about.

That place with the painting of Alfred E Newman as Jesus is the Mothers of Invention Motorcycle Club. It’s on the corner of Mt Elliot and 7728 Conant right across from the GM Poletown plant where they make the Cadillacs.

Sometimes it is really crazy in Detroit. I’ve been to an art show in a loft gallery in Eastern market when a gunfight broke out on the street outside. I just remembered what my friends told me, when there is gunfire outside don’t go look out the windows. I retreated inside the building and got behind a brick wall.

With the quotes you need to take to back slash out so you have " quote " at the begining of the quoted part. then you need to put" /quote " at the end.

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[quote]Sifu wrote:
I have cousins in Missisauga. Toronto is a beautiful city, I love it there. Canada is is not like Detroit.

However, Windsor Canada across the river from Detroit in many ways is like how Detroit used to be. The same developer who built many of Detroits subdivisions in the ten, twenties and thirtites built a lot of Windsors neighborhoods. The houses look just like Detroit houses but they are still in nice condition.

One thing about Windsor is you have to watch your ass so you don’t get assaulted. They might not have many shootings in Canada but I know tons of people from Detroit who have Canada assault stories to tell. Canadians will just assault complete strangers walking down the street without provocation.

Personally I think it is a result of the lack of firearms. It makes people feel fearless so they start shit for no reason. Here in America people are a little more reluctant to start something because of the possibiity of it escalating. I have also noticed that a lot of people here will try to defuse situations, so they don’t get out of hand.

Gerg I didn’t work at Chrysler, but I know where you are talking about.

That place with the painting of Alfred E Newman as Jesus is the Mothers of Invention Motorcycle Club. It’s on the corner of Mt Elliot and 7728 Conant right across from the GM Poletown plant where they make the Cadillacs.

Sometimes it is really crazy in Detroit. I’ve been to an art show in a loft gallery in Eastern market when a gunfight broke out on the street outside. I just remembered what my friends told me, when there is gunfire outside don’t go look out the windows. I retreated inside the building and got behind a brick wall.

With the quotes you need to take to back slash out so you have " quote " at the begining of the quoted part. then you need to put" /quote " at the end.

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Windsor near the border gets really sketchy, really quick. Back when I was 14 playing hockey, we went to a tournament in windsor. Our hotel was right across the street from a strip club. The shit I saw from the window.

Whores and such are the likes for strip clubs (but I was amazed back in the day) but there were full out brawls every night we were there. There were tons of crackheads in the area, so if we went to the store, we wold have to travel in at least groups of 2-3.

I heard a lot of people have gone out of buisness with the rising Canadian dollar since a lot of Americans don’t come over anymore and spend their money.

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You know you’ve never been to the ghetto when you call it the ghetto. Its called “the hood”.

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NJ ghettos are much nastier then ny. thats why nj is know as the armpit of usa

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[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Steel Nation wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
I’d describe how the slums are in my area, but “The Wire” does a better job than I ever could. Rent/Buy/Download episodes because they are very accurate.

Wow, I’ve seen every season of The Wire, and if that shit is real, that’s fucking scary.

Yep, it’s real. It’s also really strange to see the areas where that show was shot, and then 6 blocks up the street there’s $1million homes. [/quote]

I grew up in that area, Loch Raven way, it was pretty bad in the 70’s But i agree with Doug no one wants to get any where near certain areas of Balt.

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Aha… you come from Thornhill - it all makes sense now.

btw Reef I am from Malvern - it gets a bad rap (sometimes deserved) but it is nothing compared to US.

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[quote]jaybvee wrote:
Aha… you come from Thornhill - it all makes sense now.

btw Reef I am from Malvern - it gets a bad rap (sometimes deserved) but it is nothing compared to US.

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Yeah, now you know why I’m so curious.

I’ve seen all the areas of Toronto. I’ve taken the queen east streetcar to my gf’s house enough time to see some shitholes. I’ve gone to some arenas back when I was playing hockey that were right in some of those crapholes too.

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just go to detroit

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[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
I grew up in Brooklyn,
pre-Gulianiin rough area.
Its very segregated, into micro communities

Google Abner Louima that is the police precinct for the neighborhood. I grew up in.
Basically he is someone who was brutalized by Police.

Lots of drugs, crooked cops, and guns.
lots of food stamps and food lines.
Kids had guns in School and I went to Catholic school.
Lots of crime, not too much gang banging
gangs did not make it here til the late 80’s
that were not Biker gangs.
Jay-z and other rappers wrap about the Same neighborhood, and so did Ol Dirty bastard/dirt Mcgirt.

I have traveled quite a bit in the US
and some of the other Ghettos are pretty much the same thing. Some parts of Philly, DC, Baltimore, and yes Detroit were pretty bad.
I think the Bronx was Worse than Brooklyn…

All of the is changed, NYC is quite gentrified , the real estate prices are too high for it to stay ghetto,
but not so long ago it was the real thing.
and nasty and sad.

Lots of kids I grew up with are dead or in jail I visited a few kids in jail, not pretty.
If you have no business in the neighborhood
dont go. Its not something waiting to be turned into a grad student film.

kmc[/quote]

No man, I’m just trying to learn more about it, not profiteer off of it. Thanks though, good read.

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Favelas, baby. Slums of Rio.

My ex was from Brazil and said you don’t have to stop at lights or signs because of shootings/carjackings. It’s literally mandated by the city.

Her aunt was killed by a stray bullet while pulling out of the driveway on her way to work. And her brother and father would wear shitty watches in case they were ever robbed.

Yes, I think the US has some scary places, but at least the law can be on your side. Think about going to countries where rebel groups are funded by the government and segregation is maintained with firepower and violence daily.

You just haven’t experienced racism till you go overseas.

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[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Favelas, baby. Slums of Rio.

My ex was from Brazil and said you don’t have to stop at lights or signs because of shootings/carjackings. It’s literally mandated by the city.

Her aunt was killed by a stray bullet while pulling out of the driveway on her way to work. And her brother and father would wear shitty watches in case they were ever robbed.

Yes, I think the US has some scary places, but at least the law can be on your side. Think about going to countries where rebel groups are funded by the government and segregation is maintained with firepower and violence daily.

You just haven’t experienced racism till you go overseas.[/quote]

If a shithole in a first world country must be bad, a similar place in a second or third world country would be unthinkable.
I’ve heard about places in Brazil though, read in a Vice Magazine article (this mag holds nothing back btw, pics of dead people… the works) how cops in Brazil more specificly around Rio (I think) would patrol without handguns, but with assault rifles all the time. Man, the coke wars down there are brutal. It’s scary to think about it

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[quote]msd0060 wrote:
I too want to do what the OP wants to do.

But add to that, I want to be in some place with an impending huge hurricane coming. I want to experience that.[/quote]

Cool. Come to my house. Faye is on her way - here by Tuesday and she should be near hurricane strength or more by then.