This is a terrible reply, unless you can be bothered to explain your position. The implanted pellets have been working great for me.
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They donāt work very well for most is what heās saying. If they are working for you then thatās great
Yes they work for very few guys. First they are expensive. Second the procedure is invasive. Third once they are in there is no any control at what rate t is released and what blood levels are maintained. Everyone metabolizes at different rate. Most people become hypogonadal again way before the next procedure of reinsertion
What are your levels with implants?
What is your dosage on every day, what other supplements or drugs you take, are you doing sub-q or IM, what time of the day are you injecting and what are your complains?
All of these variables can have a bug effect
I posted my symptoms yesterday. I injected Mornings. Look a bitter longer up in the thread. I have actully have skipped my shot for 4 days now and starting to feelbetter. I was on ed shot 15mg ed for over 6 weeks and the longer i was Taking it the the worse it made me feel. Couldent even tuch coffee it made my mind racing big time, feelt like is was taking to big dose of adderal or something. Feelt paranoid. And realy short temper and overall bad mode.Like my sympatic nervussytem was on all of the time. No problem with lebido. Dont know what i should do next. If i should go back to 50mg e3,5d but stopp inject in to delts. Its like when i inject into delts i get to high of a spike in dht or something. Didnt got this anger and iritationproblems when i didnt inject into delts. I can literly feel it a couple hours after every injection.
I get the same pressure type feel and a constantly uptight feel as well, since using my dose on dailies. I think there is to much CNS stimulation going on with the higher Testosterone level.
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Yeah i think that to, before this trt thing i could drink 5-10 coups of coffee aday and energi drinks If i tuch 1 energi drink now i Will pass out or need to go to a mental hospital. Have you sorted out 1 protocol thats works for you?
@nebido999
This all seems very odd to me. So you say on more rare bigger dosages you feel better?
If that is the case It looks to me you have an issue with what you are injecting but most likely it is not the testosterone. What is the carrier oil and have you tried different one? All the symptoms you describe can be an allergic reaction.
You can try a testosterone product with different oil but I have a better idea. To test ultimately if really testosterone is what causes you these issue or something else in the compound try to find testosterone suspension base. Persuade your doctor to prescribe a little bit to you. If you cannot find UGL but only from a very trusted source. If you inject this one-two times you will really understand what is going on. Hope that helps
Dont know if it is a allergic reaction. But mabe it is, the testosterone i use is testoviron depot from bayer. I dont know whats carrier oil it is. I dont think i can get suspension t here. Maby ugl. 5 days from last injection and im starting to get low t symptoms, clicking joints and pain in my body, just feel kind of week and low. Still got the pressure in my head. And my skin in my face is realy dry.
Do you realize how key it is for you to find whether this is allergic reaction or not? This may be the key for you feeling well.
Try to find a suspension from trusted source. I think 2-3 injections of your current daily dose will give you the necessary answers. This would be really the first thing I would do if I were you like today.
I shall se If i can find any. I find what oil it is in the testosterone enanthe im using now. Its ricini oil in it.
Ok I get it. The product from Bayer you are using is very good, I wish I could get it(I also live in Europe) but you never know which patient would react bad to which product.
So the easiest way to cut the variables is to use pure unesterized water based testosterone that has a few hours half life. You will feel very strongly the real action of testosterone over your body.
If you feel bad from it(in my mind most likely will NOT) then you have some very deep unstandard health issues that need to be addressed by a very experienced hormonal specialist, not endocrinologist or some other cookie-cutter doctor.
But if you dont feel bad from suspension base, then your case is very very simple - just find the testosterone product you have not bad reactions with.
After youāve clarified this you can start thinking about protocols and dosages.
P.S. Inject the suspension IM, no sub q
Dont know where i could find that. But i Will look for it. From now im going back to 50mg twice a week. Took an 50mg dose 20 min ago. But i didnt use 30g insuline needel in delts this time. I toke 23g deep in to quads i want to se If the reaction is the same or If it is the delts thats absorbing it so qick. I can feel the t after some hours when i toke it in delts im. If it isnt any diffrent i Will use insulin needels again. Its painless and a lott easyer then mess with Bigg needels and the need for aspirate.
Let me know if from injecting 50mg you fee worse than injecting your daily dose
Like 1 hour ago i injected now. And the pressure in my head is deffinetly bigger now. Dont know if it is testosterone thats give me the head pressure or what it is. but the feeling is realy Enoying, makes me feel like im in a bubbel. And like my cns is overstimulated. If im up and walking its allot worse. If i sitt down for a 10 minutes its gets better but never disepering its there 24/7. Cant do anything, No painkillers gets the pressure away either. Do you think this is a allergic reaktion?
It is very very possible. Allergies can cause all kinds of crazy issues.
It just doesnt make sense to me your body would react in such a way to something it naturally produces(test itself). Even if you are reacting bad to test it cannot be so quick. Enanthate can peak earliest 8-10 hours after injection, but 1 hour - no way.
Sorry if mentioned earlier but do you have any pre existing health conditions?
No i dont feel the peaking it gives right now. That Will take longer. I just feel this damn pressure thats allways there. No Outher healt problems then low t that i know. Just want to start living normal again. I hope now that im moving back to twice a week i Will feel better. If i buy ricini oil and put it on my skin and se If i get a skin reaction would that tell If im allergic?
No no forget about testing anything on the skin. And it is not necessarily the oil it can be the alcohol as well or some additional preservative for example this brand puts inside(not sure if there is any)
Best approach is to test with suspension base test
More and more as you give me info it looks like allergy to me
But is There any testosterone that dosent use castrol oil? I used nebido before 1000mg every 6 weeks. And allways feelt like totly shit week 1 after a shot to. But the headpressure started when i was on hcg mono for 1 year. And its still There. The problem is something with my cns system. If i start training again i can only do it for like 1 week and after that i get the feeling that my cns is realy overstimulated like a stress thats There 24/7. And i have traind for 10+ years so its something new. Its like my body takes everything i do like a stress reaction. Even triyed anti drepptesants 6 months ago, didnt do a shit to the headpressure it only toke away my lebido and made me apathik.