Dude, I don’t care what your or others ideas about relationships are, this is not what people should discuss here, anyway it is so individual and ideological pushing leads nowhere, that’s why I call that a shit-talk.
You don’t see the risk here? She might be less inclined to use the open relationship ‘free pass’, but when she does, it’s not JUST about sex like it is for you. Once she starts having hookups, and you are getting significantly fewer than you wanted / expected and realise shes having a lot more extra sex than you, this is going to come back to bite you in the feels.
If against all reason this does work, fair play to you and well done, but I can’t imagine thinking whatever Tren gave me was worth trading for an 8 year good relationship.
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if it works out better for her than me, I am cool with that. I am not the jelous type.
You may not be, and thats good. I cant help but feel however that somewhere down the line, AAS could contribute to you feeling jealous. I may be wrong, but high testosterone certainly makes me feel things I wouldn’t normally. Just looking out for you.
SB
Jealousy can creep up on you, but that wasn’t the point. you’re out there ‘just having sex’ (or not depending on your game), shes having sex and getting emotionally involved.
You might not get jealous of other guys pounding her, how about jealous if she leaves you for one of them, because you having sex with other women kills her emotional connection to you while shes made an emotional connection with someone who will commit to her?
Just something to think about. Emotional consequences are chess not chequers.
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fair enough, I apologise, this conversation (polyamory/ relationships) isn’t appropriate to be had on this specific sub-thread.
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Who the hell are you to tell anyone what should be discussed where? If you don’t like it delete your thread and take your whiney ass on somewhere
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Just my two cents on the open relationship. Women can usually hook up much easier than men can. I am the jealous type, so that would not work well for me.
Now riding the trike every now and then would be more than welcome as long as it is mff and I am the m.
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I just want to fuck different types of pussy.
Truth
I’ve just realized that this topic is a perfect source of psychosocial mentality damage evidence from chronic AAS abuse. Yes, I’m involved in this too as an extreme asshole, but objectively look at your posts guys and refer them to listed psychosocial side effects.
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O I am without a doubt fucked up sexually. But the tren is worth it in my eyes.
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What about these posts indicate psychosocial mentality damage? Just curious.
If anything, to be honest, your own posting and threads you have created are evidence enough you cant manage it. You started running cycles a whopping 2 years after starting to work out.
Move on kid, your bullshit isnt needed here.
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That’s what happens when you think you know everything because you read a few research articles
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What, I have no idea what you could POSSIBLY be talking about!
Deviant/hypersexuality
Primitive biological dominance exasperated
Autism
Aggressive responses
Aggressive responses
Also appears to be the notion of treating women like sexual objects rather than people on here, however I’d stipulate this goes both ways, within regard to men objectifying women and women objectifying men, and TBH in the hook-up/young people scene looks/vanity does appear to matter over personality, esp within regards to one night stands. With relationships/seriously dating these factors matter less, it’s merely primitive biology and how we as humans tend to pick mates (strongest/most desirable genetic specimen) and from first glance at a nightclub or whatever, attenuated secondary sexual characteristics would be a positive attribute to acquire
I’m somewhat joking in my response here, as is evident with my quote for myself, designating “autism” to be an issue induced by anabolic steroids.
There is certainly somewhat of a toxic mentality present within the bodybuilding/fitness/athletic communities in general, whether this toxic mentality is deleterious or not, I’m not sure as while it does instigate/encourage harmful behaviour, it also encourages people to instill pride within regard to how they look, and thus may encourage healthy behaviour (eating habits, exercise routines)… I suppose it depends on how extreme one takes it (for instance if using a gram of tren to look good lol).
But he has some very interesting info that he dispenses, thus I’d stipulate @chemania has the potential to be a very valuable commodity here. Neurological side effects of anabolic steroids differentiate between person to person. While I’ve never used heavy dosages, I have dabbled within what one could consider “supra physiologic territory” at a young age in which neurological development is still (probably) occurring, I’ve never particularly noticed outward changes within my personality induced by AAS aside from hyperactivity, mild anxiety and a sense of wellbeing/increased sociability. I’ve never become argumentative, possessive, dominant or aggressive. Therefore I suppose it depends on the individuals personality traits of which are amplified, furthermore perhaps the neurological effects of AAS (regarding cognitive function, neurology etc) are vastly different between neurotypical and atypical individuals?
@chemania I have an interesting question for you (but is off topic). I was talking to my friends about this and it was a rather interesting discussion (note I wouldn’t do this as I’m on an SSRI and the risks regardless are too great). What would be the most likely situation to occur if someone with highly atypical neurology (autism, sociopathy or whatnot) took an entactogen? Given people such as myself have much trouble expressing/interpreting emotion and body language, outwardly displaying empathy and whatnot (though not to say I don’t feel these things I merely have trouble designating emotions at the times in which they occur and/or are supposed to occur). Say I took MDMA (which I didn’t and wouldn’t), would it allow me to function with complete normality in social situations (aside from the inebriating nature of the compound). My friends appear (even the non social ones) to become extremely sociable with everyone/ interact with ease, even in unfamiliar crowds when they use MDMA, I on the other hand abstain for obvious reasons (unregulated market, SSRI use (serotonin syndrome), risk of cardiac arrhythmia, hyperthermia, valvular heart disease etc… anabolic steroids are my poison thank yoooouuuuuu)
Unfortunately (given my medical pathology) my joints are now giving out, going to the doctor today to acquire imaging of my shoulder, will update if RC is torn (thinking partial RC tear induced by degeneration rather than trauma or torn labrum 
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Yeah, if he wants to stick around he needs to get off his high horse. No one gives a fuck that hes doing a pharmacy degree if he’s full of ego and acts like hes the only one right around here.
Besides, being in the medical profession myself, I’d take user experience over a few copied and pasted scientific studies all day. Pharmacodynamics/kinetics varies between individuals, so a few studies done doesn’t really mean shit.
SB
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Absolutely! Studies are great for understanding the potential health risk involved with different aas. Other then that they are almost worthless. How drugs are supposed to affect us on paper and how they actually do are night and day and completely individual.
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Agreed. That’s why it bothers me so much when someone says “link the study to prove this” as if the results from a single scientific study are gospel. To be honest, we are all completely pissing in the dark with regards to AAS, and most protocols are from user experience, not scientific studies because there are hardly any studies using the doses and combinations of drugs we use!
SB
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Well stated @Singhbuilder. I didn’t want to say anything but his posts come across a pretentious and further devoid of experience. I mean, does the guy even work out? WTF is he here?
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We all do (at least I do) but from an older guy’s perspective, I’m advising you against it. You may not be jealous, and your girlfriend MAY say its OK, and blah, blah, blah. I’m telling you that women will tell you a multitude of things and not practice them in reality. I’m also telling you that you may find yourself thinking about your woman fucking another dude…doing all the things you like with another guy. Its gonna eat you up sometime in the future. If it turns out that you hurt her even though she said its OK, you’re gonna regret it.
Pussy is the best. And Strange Pussy is even better but it sure as hell aint worth a relationship.
Just an Old(er) Man’s Advice
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