A man can live with anything, except regret. Regret is the biggest downfall of a man, take it from me. And i havent even been around as many years as our friend here studhammer so take heed. @weightliftingwithoutlimits
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You are probably correct brother.
But, do you think people are not for open relationships because we have been conditioned since birth to believe that monogamy is the only way?
Not matter how good a relationship is, I just don’t think one can have sex with the SAME person until the death bed. I think eventually, one or both the partners cave into simple biological desire and one or both end up cheating. Maybe a few can hold back, but for most, I just don’t think it works. I think you can share a special connection with one person for life, but on a sexual front, I just don’t think so. You will be wrestling your entire life with desire and curiosity. Why not have both?
I think your last point is correct to a point, but I would say the majority of people satisfy their curiosity and desires prior to settling down with that one special person.
For example when I was a fat, nerdy kid, I was in a long term relationship with my first ever girlfriend and was always curious. I ended up cheating and regretted it. Curiousity got the better of me
Since then I am far more experienced and am now in another relationship which I wouldn’t dare ruin. I simply am no longer curious and do not have any desire to sleep with anyone else.
Why go out for a burger when you have a steak at home?
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Sounds just like my story. I was a fat kid and then bloomed into a beautiful flower if I say so myself and started getting more attention wanting to experiment.
I will say this however, steroids ABSOLUTELY can affect how you see a relationship. They have made me make some irrational decisions and do things I later regret. This is probably something we should warn new comers about. I think our brother here is on a testosterone high and doesn’t see the long term effects of his decisions, a classic example of AAS-induced false perspectives and false “confidence” (I made these terms up but they fit).
This is why I prefer to run AAS now that don’t mess with my brain too much and do not make my libido out of control, I even sometimes welcome a decrease in libido.
This past cycle I was on NPP/Tren/Mast (which do not affect my libido) and I was so involved and loving within my relationship. Came off that cycle and resumed TRT and my mind is all over the place, questioning why im in a relationship, it will remain this way until my test comes down from 200mg/wk to 150mg/wk I guess. I tried 200mg but its a no go.
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@weightliftingwithoutlimits I have lots of thoughts about this. First, monogamy is a choice. Of course we are biologically built to have sex with as many women as possible primarily to spread our DNA as much as possible to ensure the continuation of our line. Secondly, I think people like to compare themselves to animals but in reality is that we are distinctly different than animals in that we have the ability to make choices based on abstract thought and consideration. Animals make choices based on instinct and sensory input. Third, long term sex partners creates emotional bonds. If you and your girlfriend have multiple partners while together you risk the chance of pair bonding with another person, which leads to jealously and hurtful emotions.
There are tons of examples of this being exactly the case. Some even lasting more than 50 yeas together. May be the exception and not the rule but it happens enough to consider.
Also, as brother @Singhbuilder pointed out, the gear is affecting your brain chemistry. You need to actively recognize that. You wouldn’t have the body you have without discipline and self denial. Sex outside of a committed relationship requires the same level of discipline. You are better than this and I think you will be happier in the long run if you build a hedge around your relationship and protect both of you from unnecessary temptations.
Lastly brother, no intent to sound preachy or judgmental here. I have strayed before in my previous marriage. I was unhappy and frustrated and in a failing marriage, all which is no excuse but it happened. You said you are in a great relationship. Hurting someone you love is a terrible thing to live with. When I left my first wife, my grown daughter was devastated. Its been 5 years and my relationship may never be the same with her and its my biggest regret in my life.
End of sermon
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I hear you brother. Thank you for the words of wisdom!
This is why I love this forum. Good to hear from people with more life experience.
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@weightliftingwithoutlimits Happy to help. Sucks being old but you do learn a coulple of things along the way.
IF you do choose not to pursue the open relationship thing, I would advise you to go back to your girlfriend and tell her that you’ve thought about it and reconsidered and that your relationship with her is way more important than the idea of sex with another woman.
You will boost her love and confidence and trust in you to a level you cannot imagine. Just don’t screw up if you do tell her!
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This needs repeating. You wouldn’t cut corners on your diet or training. You wouldn’t do what’s easiest. Apply that same thinking to other aspects of life and you’ll find that success in most things will come naturally. But of course it doesn’t come naturally, you’re earning it. The sense of satisfaction comes from knowing you worked to get something. Having a healthy relationship where the other person trusts you and relies on you is more satisfying than anything I’ve ever had. That’s me. Others may be different and that’s ok. I did a lot of sleeping around when I was single and it was no different than getting drunk: temporarily fun, but generally a drag once the buzz wore off. Having someone who never worries where you are or what you’re doing is the most liberating feeling that exists. It’s the ultimate freedom and it can’t be bought.
In the words of a wise man
“fuck bitches get money”
~ B.I.G.
But in all seriousness I haven’t even been with my wife 8 years but I would never lose a loving relationship over steroids. I would be highly disappointed if my wife asked me to stop and I would fight it hard but at the end of the day her reason would probably be valid and I would stop.
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If I had a girlfriend or SO it’d likely be the stabilising influence in my life that would make me reconsider my irresponsible decisions… Until then there’s nothing other than myself and my own mentality fuelling my decisions, which is a scary thought (only person influencing my decisions at this point is my upbringing (moral compass) and mentality (teenage mentality… aaaaa). This is up to a point obviously, anabolic steroids have largely garnered me the ability to train through my various short-comings (particularly in relation to chronic pain and joint irritation), it appears (and this is highly recommended for people with my particular set of medical ailments… Not the anabolic steroids per se but the aspect of stimulating muscular hypertrophy), the muscular hypertrophy around select sub-sets of muscles allows for greater joint stability and long term… less pain and degeneration.
One can say I’m selfish for not putting family first, however there’s a point in time where parental influence matters little. I do what I perceive to be best in relation to optimising my quality of life, I’d rather live a life not in pain and muscular than one decrepit, wasting away and unable to partake in regular activity at all, regardless of potential for shortening of lifespan (obviously there’s a cutoff point to this, if I knew I was going to drop dead suddenly at 22 due to AAS induced SCD my choices would obviously be different).
My girlfriend always knew steroids would be on the table. Both my parents have been competitive bodybuilders their entire lives so it was only a matter of time before I followed suite. But I went the powerlifting route. Being dick skin shredded and miserable was never for me.
Woah, how old are your parents? Did they use AAS? that’s awesome
Type in John Citrone peak body. That is my father and yes, regular AAS and GH use was part of that journey.
How… He’s like… old and still massive… it goes against… physics…
Yup. Regular buddies with Arnold. Came to the house often.
I guess you could say genetics are on my side.
Jesus Christ, is he healthy today? Like cardiovascular health parameters?
Genetics aren’t on my side, although my 1st cousin was in the commonwealth games
Pretty much. Sleep is fucked and had to have blood drained regularly, but still going stronf
Is he in his 50’s, 60’s, 40’s? I can’t tell from looking at photos
70s now.
Wow, this has given me hope in relation to avoiding sudden death… My next cycle will be
700000mg tren
5000000 mg dbol/day
10mg test
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