Dbol is another cheap, effective and easily overlooked fix for many tren sides…as well as being you know…Dbol.
Dbol makes me binge eat combating tren appetite issues
And as Im sure most of yall have noticed, Dbol makes you feel fucking good, happy, uplifted.
I never heard about Prami, will look it up. At 200mg of Tren a week (plus Test and Mast), my sex drive is indeed through the roof, and I did drench the last girl I was with last week - in sweat, that is, as semen is lowered in my case. I too love it and would keep on it IF my body could handle it, which I don’t think it’s safe to bet on!
[quote]SwD wrote:
I never heard about Prami, will look it up. At 200mg of Tren a week (plus Test and Mast), my sex drive is indeed through the roof, and I did drench the last girl I was with last week - in sweat, that is, as semen is lowered in my case. I too love it and would keep on it IF my body could handle it, which I don’t think it’s safe to bet on!
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other "problem’ if you will, that i had with tren was weeks 1-4 i wanna fuck everything!!! bout 5-whatever im dead dick.the gains keep coming but sex becopmes not as important and not as wanted…no matter what i did i needed towels on my bed at night. my poor gf…soaked
prami* is mostly used to countract prolactin sides btw
Im on Tren Enth , Test enth , Masteron enth at the moment by far my best cycle yet, im going into week 4 now and the night sweats are bad sometimes and my dreams are insane, a little shortness of breath but its ok. Don`t really know why people complain so much so far its going great
Really looking forward to all of this…
Did you frontload all those? I imagine that shortness of breath might get worse in the next two weeks…
yeah bro,tren creeps on ya. its not a wham even with acetate. if your ok at week 6 or so then you may always be ok…
Finally someone who hates tren as much as I do.
Same sorta problems anxiety like a little bitch, depression… yeah. Tried different esters combo’s, pct. I just react like a girl to it and won’t go in the same room as a vial of tren. I run out screaming and lock myself in the bathroom in a foetal position. Ok, not that bad but…
Then again I have a good friend who swears by it and has it in nearly all his cycles. All different i guess.
Thanks for this thread, good timing for me.
Currently running 900mg sust, 450mg tren/week with 50mg of drol/day.
Strength is going, well up. However I am sweating like a hog. I can’t do more than one or two sets and I’m totally gassed. Have ran tren before but either it was underdosed or something, much different this time around. Starting on week 3 now, will report back to this thread later.
Drol is an incredibly poor choice with tren.
Nothing about it besides nearly all type II activity is advantageous.
Worst oral imaginable besides Var or primo in my opinion.
Appetite supression, mood alterations (feel shitty), blood pressure, progestin issues, the list literally goes on.
Almost every side and effect is disadvantageous.
Dbol or Tbol are ideal. Again a basically all type II oral.
Increased appetite, feeling of well being, with tboll atleast little BP issue, no progestin issues, blood pressure with dbol is still there but not as pronounced.
Etc, etc, etc
I would drop the Drol at the first sign of issues with appetite.
Tren is the mack daddy, dont drop him till you cant stand it.
I am at 200mg of tren to 600/wk of test and am loving it. I was at 400mg/tren, 400 test and was unhappy, slightly nauseous, pouring sweat at night, and felt really oddly dissatisfied with everything around me. I decided to lower the tren to 200, raise the test to 600, and am absolutely loving it. Sleep is still slightly disturbed, but other than that, my strength is excellent and my muscle definition, nearly regardless of my diet, is excellent.
Tren also allows me to eat in a civilized fashion, meaning, unlike EQ where i need to eat every 20 minutes all day long and I can’t get enough, I’m never starving while on tren. Come meal time and I start eating, I enjoy what I’m eating, but unlike usually where I crave continuing to eat afterward, the tren leaves me satisfied at the conclusion of my meal.
[quote]TRTblastcruise wrote:
I am at 200mg of tren to 600/wk of test and am loving it. I was at 400mg/tren, 400 test and was unhappy, slightly nauseous, pouring sweat at night, and felt really oddly dissatisfied with everything around me. I decided to lower the tren to 200, raise the test to 600, and am absolutely loving it. Sleep is still slightly disturbed, but other than that, my strength is excellent and my muscle definition, nearly regardless of my diet, is excellent. Tren also allows me to eat in a civilized fashion, meaning, unlike EQ where i need to eat every 20 minutes all day long and I can’t get enough, I’m never starving while on tren. Come meal time and I start eating, I enjoy what I’m eating, but unlike usually where I crave continuing to eat afterward, the tren leaves me satisfied at the conclusion of my meal. [/quote]
That is EXACTLY the cycle I just ran, 600/200. (In Pct now). The strength gains were down right shocking. Im in my 4th week of Pct and still feeling good although my vascularity in places like thighs and shoulders is slightly fading.
I.think in the future I may do.something like 600mg/wk of Tren and 300 test and see how it goes
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Drol is an incredibly poor choice with tren.
Nothing about it besides nearly all type II activity is advantageous.
Worst oral imaginable besides Var or primo in my opinion.
Appetite supression, mood alterations (feel shitty), blood pressure, progestin issues, the list literally goes on.
Almost every side and effect is disadvantageous.
Dbol or Tbol are ideal. Again a basically all type II oral.
Increased appetite, feeling of well being, with tboll atleast little BP issue, no progestin issues, blood pressure with dbol is still there but not as pronounced.
Etc, etc, etc
I would drop the Drol at the first sign of issues with appetite.
Tren is the mack daddy, dont drop him till you cant stand it.[/quote]
I actually really liked drol, the strengh increase I got from it were amazing. I did almost lose my liver though lol.
[quote]TRTblastcruise wrote:
I am at 200mg of tren to 600/wk of test and am loving it. I was at 400mg/tren, 400 test and was unhappy, slightly nauseous, pouring sweat at night, and felt really oddly dissatisfied with everything around me. I decided to lower the tren to 200, raise the test to 600, and am absolutely loving it. Sleep is still slightly disturbed, but other than that, my strength is excellent and my muscle definition, nearly regardless of my diet, is excellent.
Tren also allows me to eat in a civilized fashion, meaning, unlike EQ where i need to eat every 20 minutes all day long and I can’t get enough, I’m never starving while on tren. Come meal time and I start eating, I enjoy what I’m eating, but unlike usually where I crave continuing to eat afterward, the tren leaves me satisfied at the conclusion of my meal. [/quote]
agreed there are great things about tren if youre system will allow it…remember tren is a different monster. it was produced to keep weight on live cattle during long shipping trips. its also probably the most home brewed shit out there so everytime ive done tren ive had a different experience but all end up bad. the beginning is igreat and i feeel jsut as you do
ALSO YOUVE REALIZED WHAT I KNEW AND I HOPE YOU GUYS REMEMBER TREN SEEMS BEST AT A 1:3 RATIO TEST TO TREN EX: 600MG TEST WEEK/ 200MG/TREN.
[quote]gm09 wrote:
[quote]TRTblastcruise wrote:
I.think in the future I may do.something like 600mg/wk of Tren and 300 test and see how it goes [/quote]
sounds like a recipe for disaster
[quote]LilyGuns wrote:
[quote]TRTblastcruise wrote:
I.think in the future I may do.something like 600mg/wk of Tren and 300 test and see how it goes [/quote]
sounds like a recipe for disaster[/quote]
how do you figure?
[quote]LilyGuns wrote:
ALSO YOUVE REALIZED WHAT I KNEW AND I HOPE YOU GUYS REMEMBER TREN SEEMS BEST AT A 1:3 RATIO TEST TO TREN EX: 600MG TEST WEEK/ 200MG/TREN.
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I think most people realize the opposite, that high dose tren is fine with only a replacement dose of testosterone.
well i take that back,only because i know a few “weirdos” that can get away with a tren only cycle ora deca only and have no problems …but what im referring to more than anything if not solely is that most of us get “shutdown” from any other ratio than a 3:1 test to tren. YOU ARE THE EXCEPTIONS AND NOT THE RULE. Thats my experiences from what ive felt and seen in 18 years of eating breathing,sleeping and shitting bodybuilding is all…but i do know guys like you,but let’s be real and clear when explaining this to the new guy so he knows “the deal” and what may happen for me or oyu may not…but there are common sides,common results and then the not so common. that is all i meant
[quote]LilyGuns wrote:
well i take that back,only because i know a few “weirdos” that can get away with a tren only cycle ora deca only and have no problems …but what im referring to more than anything if not solely is that most of us get “shutdown” from any other ratio than a 3:1 test to tren. YOU ARE THE EXCEPTIONS AND NOT THE RULE. Thats my experiences from what ive felt and seen in 18 years of eating breathing,sleeping and shitting bodybuilding is all…but i do know guys like you,but let’s be real and clear when explaining this to the new guy so he knows “the deal” and what may happen for me or oyu may not…but there are common sides,common results and then the not so common. that is all i meant[/quote]
No I understand. I’m not saying that works for me. But if you look through the forum, you’ll see a number of people with experience use replacement dose test, with a high dose of tren, and having less sides than they did when they did high test, lower tren. I’m not talking about just one guy. However, I’m pretty sure most of these posters who used cycles like that also used a dopamine agonist which would certainly help in any sort of libido issue.