As for Tren (A for me), I love it and would like to run it daily for life. I only ran Tren A for 5 weeks (testing sides) and injected 4 times a week. I’ve read and somewhat experienced what some people say, you are who you are just amplified when on Tren (test in general, more so tren). I was a mildly sarcastic a lot, I was incredibly sarcastic all the time. Although, one funny thing was, I used to snap (at family mostly) and in week 2 or so, I was asked what happened to me. I actually calmed down and less things bothered me less. Weird.
@flipcollar Haha you know I probably knew it at one point. Been around for a while since 2010. But no we don’t know each other outside of Tnation and only interacted a handful of times on here. In hindsight I realize that post maybe sounded a bit creepy so I apologize haha. But we both had mutual buddies on here is what I am getting at.
@kluso Haha oh. Yeah well I don’t know there are plenty of people I know who have never touched it and probably would be more likely to be accused of using then me. But thats never been my thing. I really don’t look that great. Accept in that one spot in the gym where the light bounces off me perfectly when I twist my body just right and I am wearing my one tank top. Then I look like Mr. Olympia.
Encouraging to know the tren didn’t exacerbate any underlying anxiety issues you may have had. I still haven’t received my shipment and honestly was contemplating selling it or giving it away and just running some SARMS with trt dose of test. I’ve yet to try them. Thought they were over hyped but they hype as yet to die away so might as well try them myself. I mean Dr. Tony Hyuge stands by them.
I ran a month of yk11 with lgd and a 400mg wkly test base and I gained… since then, I dropped the SARMs altogether to start my tren e at 600wk, test600wk and I’m filling out big… I prolly gained 10 lbs on the SARMs/test… but I’ve put on another 10 and lost the belly fat and hardened up major in 3wks… the next 7 weeks are going to be interesting:) the tren is really strengthening… the weights I’m throwing up now are a big jump from even a month ago… I prolly should have run the SARMs a bit longer but I got concerned with no real research having been done… tren is my new best friend.
I’m saying what I said. me, for example, I got my blood work yesterday, and indicate 2.546ng/dll with 350mg test/ w. You could be a copy of me and get tested with 1.500ng/ dll… of course there is some range you may expect, lets say 350mg/ w (test enantate) can get you somewhere around 1.100 to 2.500 (my case). It means that I metabolize it diffently… I’m saying what everyone is tired, “what works for me may not work for you”. About size, normaly, someone bigger will need more to reach that point in blood work. It’s easy, just think, someone bigger will have more blood flowing through… then, you’ll have more dilution of the drug… (this line of thought is about size)… you’ll find so much things, so much variations and the conclusion… you cannot affirm anything about human body and how it works differently…
Ahh makes sense. I did notice back in the day the girlfriend and I would pop something and it’d take about 30-45 minutes longer to hit me. So I guess that’s the same thing here. Interesting and thanks!
Lmao, im sure you are being modest here. I like that! Did you order tren a or tren e? Sorry if I missed that. I was nervous running tren for first time too. I found a source that had a tren base transdermal. Which was great to see how i reacted to it. I dont like pinning much so didnt want to use tren a. But if you dod get tren e just start low. 200mg ew. Some will say thats a waste but I disagree. Tren is very strong compound. In fact I am very sensative to it. My first time using tren e i ised 400mg ew like everyone suggested. It was too much and i had to drop it. I got all the sides from bad indigestion to prolactin sides (nipples stared getting bigger and cone shaped). I tried prami and that made me feel worse. I dropped it after 4.weeks. I even lost weight. Next time i tried it I worked my way up to 400 and it was more manageable. But honestly i liked it best at 200mg ew. Now i throw 200mg tren e on top of all my cycles. Still need an antacid but the other sides are manageable without a strong dopamine antagonist. I use mucuna pruriens instead of caber or plami and it works great for me. I dont get anger issues either. Some reason bold was way worse for anger. Anxiety too. Thats probably biggest one to stay away from with anxiety problems.
I ordered ace and it just arrived today. Yeah I am all about lowest effective dose. Hence why I only run 300 mg of test every 7-10 days. My first cycle started at 500 mg test e and bumped up to 750 and to be honest I did not think there was a noticeable difference between being in high range of physiological level and above it with 500-750 mg. Only difference was development of mild acne and my chest would get flushed either from increased hermatocrit levels or elevated BP. Point being I think 150 mg to 200 should be sufficient although I am still contemplating forgoing the tren and utilizing SARMs instead.
Had no idea indigestion was a side of tren. Never heard that one.
Also I’ve heard gyno sides from tren are related to estradiol levels and that if you keep your E2 in check you shouldn’t have that. Meaning people have said that prolactin inhibitors are not needed. Don’t know if this is true but it did make sense. I dislike running ancillaries because often times they have more sides then the AAS themselves. Hoping to avoid using prami or caber and just use an AI to combat E2.
My test 600, tren e 600 cycle in the 5th week and I’ve been taking adex .5 EOD, however I just bumped it up to 1mg EOD. No camber, prami, just adex and so far I’m OK. I noticed a lil bit of puffy nips today(24hrs after my pin) so I bumped up adex. It’s been working for me but I’m cautious to say the least. The sides from tren haven’t been bad at all for me. I’m running a little warm and sweaty, aggression up a bit, sleeping like 4-7 hrs and my ass is ready to go…
Wow, that is awesome to here. I hope I am as fortunate as you. I am will be running a fraction of what you are running. 250 test cyp and 150 maybe 200 mgs of tren a. I don’t need adex with 250 mgs of test but am thinking maybe I should run perhaps .25 eod. It doesn’t aromatize so I really still think as long as aromatization of test is not out of control I won’t need it. Around 350 a week is when I would usually include an AI.
How has your progress been since start? What were your goals?
About the adex, from what I’ve been told, the test will aromatize and high e levels along with high prolactin is going to stir up some shit. Keep the e low and then high prolactin isn’t a major issue. Just brocrap here tho… it’s working for me to take the adex alone. No caber or prami. And that’s worked so far… about my progress, I am losing fat and replacing with hard muscle. It’s nuts… my friends are telling me they don’t understand… I keep telling them hard training days and protein…haha! My recovery is so fast, I can kill biceps 7 days/week. Legs take a bit to recover but that’s because my leg day lasts 3 hrs… my squats have gone up from 275 to 360 in 5 weeks. After squats, I go straight to the leg press and increase weights from 225 to 675 and doing 10reps at 675… I’m way up on that from 5 weeks ago. AB wheel ain’t shit nowadays( but only on my knees… I’m 6’3". My goal is to do standing wheels.) I have been doing 7sets of 6-8reps bicep curl machine at 180lb. This is everyday, after my 7 sets of 15-20reps of lighter weight curls… I was nowhere near curling 180 5 weeks ago… couldn’t even pretend. I have a guy I worked out with a month ago, then didn’t see him for a month. He always put up bigger weight then me(except on leg day) and I worked out with him Friday, and I burned his ass up on EVERY set…More weight, more reps. I was loving that…Haha! I hope it continues like this as I’ve heard tren e takes 4-6weeks before the benefits show up… you said tren ace 200/wk?? I’ve heard that’s another animal altogether!! Keep me up on your progress!
I saw a guys tag the other day: eat clen, tren hard… haha
Finally got my gear. Few things to note. Switched from the Sust to Cyp. 250 mgs of cyp week vs 300 of sust. Its a slightly lower dose feel way better but surprisingly my back is breaking out. I would think it would not have that effect. Any one have an idea? Could just be coincidence.
Also I want to start the tren but I have strained/tweaked my pec. I wanted to wait until it healed. I’ve been in a similar situation and just trained around it. Just curious to see what you all would do in that situation. Have a really solid strong squat and deadlift and slightly above average (by decently strong standards) bench. Really wanted to even out my physique and add mass to my top half and am not sure if I can do that without heavy presses.
Glad you got the package ogle, and yeah, I switched pharmas this week with my tren e and test cyp, and I’m happy to see more sweating, acne and aggression from it. Seems like my new gear is stronger. I also threw in some dbol for the next 3-4weeks at 10mg early morning, then 30mg 1hr before workouts. That dbol is no joke. I didn’t think an oral would pack a punch like that! I’ve heard it’s synergistic with the tren also. I’m excited to hear from you when you hit the tren ace, man. Should be a hell of a ride and I think it’s smart to wait for your peck to get straightened back out before running some heavy gear. Keep us in the loop! I’m gonna run tren ace next year before summer, but the enth is plenty for me right now.
Was up to 381lbs all time.