Trayvon Martin Trial

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]WW3General wrote:
For you guys that feel like Zimmerman should have been prepared for a fight, if he wanted to question Martin. Why should he have been prepared for a fight? Have we lost our civility? It is like you are saying anytime you interact with someone in public you should have to be prepared to fight. What happened to talking? [/quote]

The Internet [/quote]

that came across to me as flippant but I would love it if you would expand. I am reading a book called the Overton Window talking about manipulation through social media.

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]WW3General wrote:
For you guys that feel like Zimmerman should have been prepared for a fight, if he wanted to question Martin. Why should he have been prepared for a fight? Have we lost our civility? It is like you are saying anytime you interact with someone in public you should have to be prepared to fight. What happened to talking? [/quote]

The Internet [/quote]

that came across to me as flippant but I would love it if you would expand. I am reading a book called the Overton Window talking about manipulation through social media.
[/quote]

It is the truth as I see it (I guess). Most have lost the ability to communicate face to face.

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]WW3General wrote:
For you guys that feel like Zimmerman should have been prepared for a fight, if he wanted to question Martin. Why should he have been prepared for a fight? Have we lost our civility? It is like you are saying anytime you interact with someone in public you should have to be prepared to fight. What happened to talking? [/quote]

The Internet [/quote]

that came across to me as flippant but I would love it if you would expand. I am reading a book called the Overton Window talking about manipulation through social media.
[/quote]

It is the truth as I see it (I guess). Most have lost the ability to communicate face to face. [/quote]

who do you call most? Stop it if you are talking about folks under 20 because they are not MOST.

MOST folks grew up with manners and decorum. There are more of them alive today than the trash talking kids.

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]WW3General wrote:
For you guys that feel like Zimmerman should have been prepared for a fight, if he wanted to question Martin. Why should he have been prepared for a fight? Have we lost our civility? It is like you are saying anytime you interact with someone in public you should have to be prepared to fight. What happened to talking? [/quote]

The Internet [/quote]

that came across to me as flippant but I would love it if you would expand. I am reading a book called the Overton Window talking about manipulation through social media.
[/quote]

It is the truth as I see it (I guess). Most have lost the ability to communicate face to face. [/quote]

who do you call most? Stop it if you are talking about folks under 20 because they are not MOST.

MOST folks grew up with manners and decorum. There are more of them alive today than the trash talking kids.

[/quote]
I speak face to face just fine. People love me.

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]WW3General wrote:
For you guys that feel like Zimmerman should have been prepared for a fight, if he wanted to question Martin. Why should he have been prepared for a fight? Have we lost our civility? It is like you are saying anytime you interact with someone in public you should have to be prepared to fight. What happened to talking? [/quote]

The Internet [/quote]

that came across to me as flippant but I would love it if you would expand. I am reading a book called the Overton Window talking about manipulation through social media.
[/quote]

It is the truth as I see it (I guess). Most have lost the ability to communicate face to face. [/quote]

who do you call most? Stop it if you are talking about folks under 20 because they are not MOST.

MOST folks grew up with manners and decorum. There are more of them alive today than the trash talking kids.

[/quote]
I speak face to face just fine. People love me.[/quote]

Then you and I would get along. Fella, are you trying to tell me that you are 17 cuz I know you are not.

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Mr. Zimmerman did NOTHING WRONG. Not legally, and not morally. He was well within his right to be suspicious of someone walking around in his gated community, extremely early in the morning, when there had recently been a significant number of break-ins. He is much more a victim than Martin.[/quote]

Suspicious of someone black no doubt, because he knew that every burglary was committed by a black teen.

What were Trayvon’s rights? Was he not within his rights to be suspicious of a creepy fat man who, for all he knew, was a pedophile? But let’s put all the blame on the child instead of the adult, who was armed, and who should have known better. [/quote]

I’ve had my fill of this Trayvon Martin “child” garbage. Splashed across across liberal network news everyday are images of him at age twelve in a hoody. The six foot tall “child” was old enough to drive a car, open a bank account, see an R rated movie, buy illegal drugs, understand gang signs and bloody the shit out of a short fat Zimmerman head on the concrete sidewalk.

He wasn’t twelve years old. The Fake News Networks are all culpable in promoting this lie in order to provoke racial reactions that will probably be deadly if Zimmerman is found innocent. How wonderful CHANGE is in America.

The majority of today’s media is in also in liberal “protectionism mode.” They will slant stories and omit facts to force an outcome in their favor.

The liberal socialists want this. They hope it will erupt into a race war and bring chaos and financial ruin and most likely military occupation of cities. Liberals want to force the nation to start anew, without it’s outdated constitution. Why else do they spend us into oblivion, far past what any five super power nations could repay? We will default and a “soulution” will come about with a trade off.

If blacks refuse to admit some people look at a six foot tall black person as a threat both because of past racism and because so many have criminal records then there is no middle ground. When Jessie Jackson said “I was worried when I heard footsteps behind me, but I relaxed when it was a white person” he essentially stated what many feel when traveling alone.

For instance I’ve never been intimidated walking alone around women, Asians or Hispanics. In fact I generally am aware of their uneasiness about me. Blacks are aware of the dynamics of this yet continue to cry racism. You’re own black cheerleader Jessie Jackson said it in an interview, but if I even think it because I’m white, I am the evil in this equation.

Blacks cheered when O.J. was found not guilty and they rioted and destroyed and threw bricks into white people’s heads when Rodney King police tormentors were not. Attack on Reginald Denny - Wikipedia

Again if Trayvon Martin were killed in a fight by a black we would have never reached the heights of hatred with talks of rioting by Black Panthers etc… There is no end to the racism equation. Black cheerleaders have seen to that.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/police-fear-flash-mob-violence-if-zimmerman-acquitted.html

Twitter account feeds on Zimmerman trial:

If Zimmerman walks As a people I hope all of us African Americans RIOT! straight up. Lets wild the fuck out. WHO'S WITH ME ?!

chilllllll blood (@DRIZZY_HIGHTIDE) July 12, 2013

They let Zimmerman go yet? I wanna riot already ! #ZimmermanTrial

Enmanuel Tejeda (@fresh_ass_nigga) July 12, 2013

Zimmerman gets off the riot in florida gonna be bigger than when the Heat won

jcostello (@representing315) July 12, 2013

I promise you me and my people gon RIOT! No bullshit

Lul Stevie J :slight_smile: (@ItsBoraTho2x) July 12, 2013

If Zimmerman walks As a people I hope all of us African Americans RIOT! straight up. Lets wild the fuck out. WHO'S WITH ME ?!

chilllllll blood (@DRIZZY_HIGHTIDE) July 12, 2013

If they don't find Zimmerman GUILTY white America better prepare themselves its real live riot supporters out here ready to get it popping

Tee Walker (@mz_walker23) July 12, 2013

For Real if #Zimmerman isn't found guilty we should break into stores and start a riot on some Rodney King shit.

 (@scriptsquid) July 12, 2013

If Zimmerman get off we starting a fuckin riot innis bitch!!!!

Lul Stevie J :slight_smile: (@ItsBoraTho2x) July 12, 2013

Rodney King Riot pop off on anyone who looks like Zimmerman

Jordan Orange (@LeeLeeBeMe) July 12, 2013

if Zimmerman gets off, black folks will riot.I will loot to show my support

 Coach Jackie Miles (@Jackiemiles5) July 12, 2013

If this Zimmerman guy is found innocent it's going to be a riot in some parts of this country! Smhhhh!

Shaya (@Shay_J3) July 12, 2013

If Zimmerman walk free, he will need a life time supply if police guards to protect him! ?????????????? it's going to be a riot #NotUpForDebate

JULY24? (@__Arionn) July 12, 2013

If Zimmerman walks away, get ready for L.A. riot part 2.

Justin Summers (@OAF_Juss) July 12, 2013

If that faggot Zimmerman gets free we bout to have a riot. #FuckZimmerman

Michael (@Rusedoesit_) July 12, 2013

Zimmerman win we starting a riot at DA MALL

K Woods$$$ (@ImDa_Shotta) July 12, 2013

who wants to start a riot if Zimmerman gets off?

Snorlax (@SharDaddy_) July 12, 2013

Can we riot in NYC if Zimmerman gets acquitted? I will need to break something.

Bunny Themelis (@bunifah) July 12, 2013

Its riot if this nigga Zimmerman dont go to jail and Imma take advantage of it

MoneyBags #GTD (@ItsDCbroo) July 12, 2013

Ima start a riot if Zimmerman gets away !

La cheif Keefa (@makeemscreamm) July 12, 2013

If Zimmerman get off free I'm taking a trip ta Florida & IMMA START A RIOT IMMA START A RIOT!!!

Loyalty (@MaRRi3D2DaMaFIa) July 12, 2013

Everybody knows Zimmerman is goin to jail. If he doesn't, Florida is going to riot & the government can't let that happen.

Took (@k_trapps) July 12, 2013

http://www.infowars.com/twitter-flooded-with-new-wave-of-riot-threats/

With all the hoopla about race one thing I cant understand is

  1. Why did Zimmerman chase down Martin what exactley was he doing that was so suspicouse??? A black kid in a hoody walking around talking on a cell is hardley a big deal… He could have easily been a residents teenage kid

  2. If Zimmerman was persuing him why didnt he just keep him in sight and let the authorities do their thing… Especially if he had no real concrete evidence that the kids intent was criminal ?? After all no-crime happened

  3. Martin was a young kid who may not have been a perfect citizen if you were that age wouldnt you throw down if someone was chasing you? Especially if you had no idea what it was about.

  4. The kid died with a bag of candy in his pocket and no one can prove he was in the neighborhood to do any harm

IMO Zimmerman was a overzleaouse gun nut with vissions of grandure… He wanted to be a tough guy and pulled a gun in a fist fight. Now a kids dead and he will most likely do 10-15 years
Everyone should take a good look at why stand your ground & wear and carry is a bad idea… Let the police do the police work… Guns should be kept at home to protect your own shit not for vigilante BS

See random dude in neighborhood that looks to be up to no good, ask said dude what he’s doing, altercation occurs for unknown reason.

A- Fist fight weapon free someone gets bloodied/knocked out etc.- If hoodlum won would probably run, other guy would call cops.

B- Fist fight weapon free someone gets bloodied/knocked out etc.- If hoodlum loses would be held until cops come.

C- Fist fight weapon free someone gets stomped into a coma or dead.- Hoodlum would run, Other guy would call cops and stomping would not occur as well as no running due to not being worried about being guilty of a crime.

D- Same picture as above except one guy has gun so before getting head bashed into a pulp he uses it. Probably glad he had it regardless of outcome. What would you do? Some say why have a gun? Some will get head bashed in. Some deserve it. I dont even know what I just wrote but am curious to see how all the ignorant supporters that will be looting and rioting make it.

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
With all the hoopla about race one thing I cant understand is

  1. Why did Zimmerman chase down Martin what exactley was he doing that was so suspicouse??? A black kid in a hoody walking around talking on a cell is hardley a big deal… He could have easily been a residents teenage kid

  2. If Zimmerman was persuing him why didnt he just keep him in sight and let the authorities do their thing… Especially if he had no real concrete evidence that the kids intent was criminal ?? After all no-crime happened

  3. Martin was a young kid who may not have been a perfect citizen if you were that age wouldnt you throw down if someone was chasing you? Especially if you had no idea what it was about.

  4. The kid died with a bag of candy in his pocket and no one can prove he was in the neighborhood to do any harm

IMO Zimmerman was a overzleaouse gun nut with vissions of grandure… He wanted to be a tough guy and pulled a gun in a fist fight. Now a kids dead and he will most likely do 10-15 years
Everyone should take a good look at why stand your ground & wear and carry is a bad idea… Let the police do the police work… Guns should be kept at home to protect your own shit not for vigilante BS[/quote]

Your “remarks” have been answered in full, in this thread. Read the last 5-6 pages of this thread to see how you are totally and utterly wrong.

Also, for anyone interested, here is the full defense closing statement. It’s very long and comes in 6 parts. This is part 1/6:

Yes, I watched it all.

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
With all the hoopla about race one thing I cant understand is

  1. Why did Zimmerman chase down Martin what exactley was he doing that was so suspicouse??? A black kid in a hoody walking around talking on a cell is hardley a big deal… He could have easily been a residents teenage kid

  2. If Zimmerman was persuing him why didnt he just keep him in sight and let the authorities do their thing… Especially if he had no real concrete evidence that the kids intent was criminal ?? After all no-crime happened

  3. Martin was a young kid who may not have been a perfect citizen if you were that age wouldnt you throw down if someone was chasing you? Especially if you had no idea what it was about.

  4. The kid died with a bag of candy in his pocket and no one can prove he was in the neighborhood to do any harm

IMO Zimmerman was a overzleaouse gun nut with vissions of grandure… He wanted to be a tough guy and pulled a gun in a fist fight. Now a kids dead and he will most likely do 10-15 years
Everyone should take a good look at why stand your ground & wear and carry is a bad idea… Let the police do the police work… Guns should be kept at home to protect your own shit not for vigilante BS[/quote]

More ignorant posts from the uninformed. Please never post in here again before you are actually up to date with the facts of the case.

Hebrewhero:

Your overzealouse (sic) posting makes me suspicouse (sic) that you might be exactley (sic) the one with vissions (sic) of grandure (sic).

Please post again when you have read the thread, can present a coherent argument, and perhaps have learned to spell.

Shalom.

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]WW3General wrote:
For you guys that feel like Zimmerman should have been prepared for a fight, if he wanted to question Martin. Why should he have been prepared for a fight? Have we lost our civility? It is like you are saying anytime you interact with someone in public you should have to be prepared to fight. What happened to talking? [/quote]

The Internet [/quote]

that came across to me as flippant but I would love it if you would expand. I am reading a book called the Overton Window talking about manipulation through social media.
[/quote]

It is the truth as I see it (I guess). Most have lost the ability to communicate face to face. [/quote]

who do you call most? Stop it if you are talking about folks under 20 because they are not MOST.

MOST folks grew up with manners and decorum. There are more of them alive today than the trash talking kids.

[/quote]
I speak face to face just fine. People love me.[/quote]

Then you and I would get along. Fella, are you trying to tell me that you are 17 cuz I know you are not.

[/quote]
No, 19

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Hebrewhero:

Your overzealouse (sic) posting makes me suspicouse (sic) that you might be exactley (sic) the one with vissions (sic) of grandure (sic).

[/quote]

Ha ha ha.

One could quickly get “sic” of poor spelling. ;-)[/quote]
hurhur

It’s a dammed pour mined that cant think off at Liszt too wheys two spell a whirred. Butt inn this cays wheel make an acception.

[quote]The Anchor wrote:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

But again, Zimmerman is an idiot … And a pussy. So pussy shoots punk. They both did something stupid to end up where they are.
[/quote]

Nicely summed up. [/quote]

Stiglitz you forgot to say /thread. [/quote]

We both know that would have been a waste of keyboard time …

This thing is like the Terminator … It can’t be killed

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
So what lesson you all should be learning from this is…[/quote]

being “white” is the new black
calling someone a “creepy ass cracker” is perfectly acceptable
having your nails did for court is more important than being able to speak or read
if you’re dead son becomes famous, trade mark his name and make that paper
avoid everything in florida that isnt a beach, or Gatorland. [/quote]
Not sure when Cracker became a curse? I mean hell Ritz Crackers, Cracker barrel, soup and Crackers. Is it really something you convict a person for if so
then Ritz owes some white dudes a lot of cash.

But the fat chick was a sad display. [/quote]

Why are you denying that it is a racial slur?
Do you think it is okay to call folks Kike or WOP? [/quote]

Was it meant as a Racial Slur by Martin to the chick on the phone, Sure, but would it have been worse or better if he said Motherfucker?

I don’t even care if Zimmerman called Martin a Niger, his actions are what fucked him up that night not his vocabulary.

Now back to the Cracker word, come on in the realm of “slurs” that is pretty weak. I mean call me when they have Kike or Wop Barrel stores
[/quote]
are you seriously taking that stance, or is that sarcasm and I missed it?
[/quote]

Trying to type with my phone is pissing me off…

Now to your question. What did you think I meant. I thought it was an honest answer to her question.

(had to re-type)
[/quote]
i was addressing the cracker comment you made with cracker barrel being a place so it cant be racist.

well, ‘cracker’ is short for ‘whip-cracker’. so when there is a ‘whip-cracker barrel’ then your point may be valid. until then, it is a racist slur to white

people.[/quote]

Never heard that before, and I’m not a young guy. What is a “Whip-Cracker”?

Once again never said it wasn’t a Racial Slur. Just on the list of slurs it is a weak one.

But “whip cracker” hmmm yep that is the first I ever heard of that.

[/quote]

if i recall correctly, you are not white. so, as someone that isnt white, you get to decide how ‘strong’ or ‘weak’ a slur for a white person is? interesting. so as someone that isnt black i can decide how ‘strong’ or ‘weak’ ni… i think you get the point.

as far as the etiology of the term-
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whip+cracker

now you have heard it more than once and from multiple places.

hmmm yep, i think i have proven my point.

EDIT: I am digging through my 2pac collection to find where he uses it. I can recall lyrics where he uses redneck and peckerwood (2 more slurs in case that is ‘hmmm yep that is the first I ever heard of that’ too) and I am almost positive he uses cracker as well. I am also almost positive NWA did, as well.

EDIT2: that didnt take long. from his song ‘fuck em all’:
Here come the coppers
The swat team and the helicopters
Them crackers is crazy
Why? Cause they’ll never stop us

and I am sure there are more…

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
So what lesson you all should be learning from this is…[/quote]

being “white” is the new black
calling someone a “creepy ass cracker” is perfectly acceptable
having your nails did for court is more important than being able to speak or read
if you’re dead son becomes famous, trade mark his name and make that paper
avoid everything in florida that isnt a beach, or Gatorland. [/quote]
Not sure when Cracker became a curse? I mean hell Ritz Crackers, Cracker barrel, soup and Crackers. Is it really something you convict a person for if so
then Ritz owes some white dudes a lot of cash.

But the fat chick was a sad display. [/quote]

Why are you denying that it is a racial slur?
Do you think it is okay to call folks Kike or WOP? [/quote]

Was it meant as a Racial Slur by Martin to the chick on the phone, Sure, but would it have been worse or better if he said Motherfucker?

I don’t even care if Zimmerman called Martin a Niger, his actions are what fucked him up that night not his vocabulary.

Now back to the Cracker word, come on in the realm of “slurs” that is pretty weak. I mean call me when they have Kike or Wop Barrel stores
[/quote]
are you seriously taking that stance, or is that sarcasm and I missed it?
[/quote]

Trying to type with my phone is pissing me off…

Now to your question. What did you think I meant. I thought it was an honest answer to her question.

(had to re-type)
[/quote]
i was addressing the cracker comment you made with cracker barrel being a place so it cant be racist.

well, ‘cracker’ is short for ‘whip-cracker’. so when there is a ‘whip-cracker barrel’ then your point may be valid. until then, it is a racist slur to white

people.[/quote]

Never heard that before, and I’m not a young guy. What is a “Whip-Cracker”?

Once again never said it wasn’t a Racial Slur. Just on the list of slurs it is a weak one.

But “whip cracker” hmmm yep that is the first I ever heard of that.

[/quote]

if i recall correctly, you are not white. so, as someone that isnt white, you get to decide how ‘strong’ or ‘weak’ a slur for a white person is? interesting. so as someone that isnt black i can decide how ‘strong’ or ‘weak’ ni… i think you get the point.

as far as the etiology of the term-
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whip+cracker

now you have heard it more than once and from multiple places.

hmmm yep, i think i have proven my point.

EDIT: I am digging through my 2pac collection to find where he uses it. I can recall lyrics where he uses redneck and peckerwood (2 more slurs in case that is ‘hmmm yep that is the first I ever heard of that’ too) and I am almost positive he uses cracker as well. I am also almost positive NWA did, as well. [/quote]

Come on man you know it is only racist, if it is something against a minority. To use any common sense with these types of people or logical thought is like hammering both of your testicles with a sledgehammer into concrete and then bludgeoning your head against a cement wall.

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
So what lesson you all should be learning from this is…[/quote]

being “white” is the new black
calling someone a “creepy ass cracker” is perfectly acceptable
having your nails did for court is more important than being able to speak or read
if you’re dead son becomes famous, trade mark his name and make that paper
avoid everything in florida that isnt a beach, or Gatorland. [/quote]
Not sure when Cracker became a curse? I mean hell Ritz Crackers, Cracker barrel, soup and Crackers. Is it really something you convict a person for if so
then Ritz owes some white dudes a lot of cash.

But the fat chick was a sad display. [/quote]

Why are you denying that it is a racial slur?
Do you think it is okay to call folks Kike or WOP? [/quote]

Was it meant as a Racial Slur by Martin to the chick on the phone, Sure, but would it have been worse or better if he said Motherfucker?

I don’t even care if Zimmerman called Martin a Niger, his actions are what fucked him up that night not his vocabulary.

Now back to the Cracker word, come on in the realm of “slurs” that is pretty weak. I mean call me when they have Kike or Wop Barrel stores
[/quote]
are you seriously taking that stance, or is that sarcasm and I missed it?
[/quote]

Trying to type with my phone is pissing me off…

Now to your question. What did you think I meant. I thought it was an honest answer to her question.

(had to re-type)
[/quote]
i was addressing the cracker comment you made with cracker barrel being a place so it cant be racist.

well, ‘cracker’ is short for ‘whip-cracker’. so when there is a ‘whip-cracker barrel’ then your point may be valid. until then, it is a racist slur to white

people.[/quote]

Never heard that before, and I’m not a young guy. What is a “Whip-Cracker”?

Once again never said it wasn’t a Racial Slur. Just on the list of slurs it is a weak one.

But “whip cracker” hmmm yep that is the first I ever heard of that.

[/quote]

if i recall correctly, you are not white. so, as someone that isnt white, you get to decide how ‘strong’ or ‘weak’ a slur for a white person is? interesting. so as someone that isnt black i can decide how ‘strong’ or ‘weak’ ni… i think you get the point.

as far as the etiology of the term-
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whip+cracker

now you have heard it more than once and from multiple places.

hmmm yep, i think i have proven my point.

EDIT: I am digging through my 2pac collection to find where he uses it. I can recall lyrics where he uses redneck and peckerwood (2 more slurs in case that is ‘hmmm yep that is the first I ever heard of that’ too) and I am almost positive he uses cracker as well. I am also almost positive NWA did, as well. [/quote]

Come on man you know it is only racist, if it is something against a minority. To use any common sense with these types of people or logical thought is like hammering both of your testicles with a sledgehammer into concrete and then bludgeoning your head against a cement wall.
[/quote]

you are right… And that is a great description.