Trayvon Martin Trial

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[quote]stefan128 wrote:
He wasn’t trying to start a fight, wtf is with you people. Wannabe cop, dude, come on. He was studying criminal justice in school. So anyone who studies it is a wannabe cop. That makes no sense, sir. And having a conceal carry permit is not trying to be a tough guy. I imagine it is for his safety, like others who have them. [/quote]

Zimmerman had some fucked up run INS with the police in his youth, means NOTHING. He could have possibly went on to have a great Adult life. Career, family, etc.

I don’t see him as a Racist, a Sadistic evil guy of any kind. But his actions that night are right in line with being a DUMBASS.

He can still have a decent life. Convicted or not he still has a chance to have a life. Shit people have done way worse than him and have done it with true evil motives and now are living full lives.

It won’t be easy but it can happen.

But the shit was dumb

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
Well for no other reason than it sounds like a lie. The kid not only stop running and turned around but according to Zimmerman hey went past him and back up to him ???
[/quote]

It just makes sense Martin stopped (stupid but 17 yr olds are full of macho BS) and just waited to see if this guy would turn the corner still following him.[/quote]

So Martin, a 17 year old full of macho BS (which can be strongly suggested given his behaviour leading to the shooting), would stop running around some arbitrary corner not far from his house, and wait, but he wouldn’t circle around and try to confront this guy? Possibly even jump him?

Second one (of ambushing Mr. Zimmerman) sounds much more plausible given a macho BS personality.

[/quote]

His house was on the end. All he had to do to meet Zimmerman was STOP. For Zimmerman to meet up with Martin he had to keep walking and turn the corner.

But we can’t prove it either way. It just sounds more reasonable to me

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[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

How is it disproven? The police courses and the job applications?

And he is a pussy for prowling around without police authority thinking he was tough BECAUSE he was carrying a firearm … I guarantee he wouldn’t confront a fly without 'ol smoky on his hip …

I don’t think he’s guilty of the charges, but he sure is hell guilty of being a dumbass. If you are going to start confrontations and the only recourse you have if they go sour is a gun, you’re a pussy and a moron. He obviously couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag, so this was going to probably happen sooner or later when he made the wrong person angry.
[/quote]

-Of the 402 calls to the police by residents of The Retreat at Twin Lakes, within the past 18 months leading to the shooting, 7 of them were by Mr. Zimmerman. That means less than 2 percent of all calls were Mr. Zimmerman.

-Mr. Zimmerman acquired a handgun due to a pitbull that had been loose, after being suggested to do so, by Seminole County Animal Services officer. The pitbull has previously cornered his wife.

There had also been recent break ins in the area. Just cause he saw something suspicious and happened to be packing, which A LOT of people in the U.S. are, how does this justify your jumping to conclusions about him “prowling around” in his own gated community with “police authority”.

I doubt a guy with a job and a wife is looking to shoot random black people in a gated community (with 20% black people) where he lives, and is very known, given he is the (elected) neighborhood watch coordinator. He saw someone behaving suspiciously and called the police. Martin saw him and took off, which made Mr. Zimmerman even more suspicious.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this scenario. I’d say Mr. Zimmerman was completely in the right to arm himself, given the course of events (being jumped).

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[quote]stefan128 wrote:
He wasn’t trying to start a fight, wtf is with you people. Wannabe cop, dude, come on. He was studying criminal justice in school. So anyone who studies it is a wannabe cop. That makes no sense, sir. And having a conceal carry permit is not trying to be a tough guy. I imagine it is for his safety, like others who have them. [/quote]

I’m not saying having a CCW is trying to be a tough guy at all … It’s actually probably prudent

Going out as a private citizen pestering people about what they are doing in your neighborhood is likely to at least raise eyebrows if not ire depending on who you are talking to. Relying on a weapon to get you out of a situation you basically inserted yourself into is foolish. It was pretty well documented the guy can’t fight and is no physical specimen. The gun was gonna be his first, and only, recourse as soon as things went from verbal to physical.

And I think anyone who spends their own free time patrolling a neighborhood, for free, with a gun, is a wannabe cop … Who does that? Old bored retired dudes?

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[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

I’m not saying having a CCW is trying to be a tough guy at all … It’s actually probably prudent [/quote]

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Just had a thought …

If Zimmerman had been home that night, meticulously tending to his food prep for the next day instead of searching for neighborhood scofflaws, Martin would be alive and Zimmerman would be jacked and not fighting for his life in court

See, bodybuilding saves lives!

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

I’m not saying having a CCW is trying to be a tough guy at all … It’s actually probably prudent [/quote]

[/quote]

Do you not see the difference between possessing a CCW and carrying it to protect you or your family from harm that might befall you unexpectedly vs strapping up with the express purpose of going out and basically inviting confrontation?

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[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

I’m not saying having a CCW is trying to be a tough guy at all … It’s actually probably prudent [/quote]

[/quote]

Do you not see the difference between possessing a CCW and carrying it to protect you or your family from harm that might befall you unexpectedly vs strapping up with the express purpose of going out and basically inviting confrontation?[/quote]

Did you read this post?

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

How is it disproven? The police courses and the job applications?

And he is a pussy for prowling around without police authority thinking he was tough BECAUSE he was carrying a firearm … I guarantee he wouldn’t confront a fly without 'ol smoky on his hip …

I don’t think he’s guilty of the charges, but he sure is hell guilty of being a dumbass. If you are going to start confrontations and the only recourse you have if they go sour is a gun, you’re a pussy and a moron. He obviously couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag, so this was going to probably happen sooner or later when he made the wrong person angry.
[/quote]

-Of the 402 calls to the police by residents of The Retreat at Twin Lakes, within the past 18 months leading to the shooting, 7 of them were by Mr. Zimmerman. That means less than 2 percent of all calls were Mr. Zimmerman.

-Mr. Zimmerman acquired a handgun due to a pitbull that had been loose, after being suggested to do so, by Seminole County Animal Services officer. The pitbull has previously cornered his wife.

There had also been recent break ins in the area. Just cause he saw something suspicious and happened to be packing, which A LOT of people in the U.S. are, how does this justify your jumping to conclusions about him “prowling around” in his own gated community with “police authority”.

I doubt a guy with a job and a wife is looking to shoot random black people in a gated community (with 20% black people) where he lives, and is very known, given he is the (elected) neighborhood watch coordinator. He saw someone behaving suspiciously and called the police. Martin saw him and took off, which made Mr. Zimmerman even more suspicious.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this scenario. I’d say Mr. Zimmerman was completely in the right to arm himself, given the course of events (being jumped).[/quote]

It was incase of a pitbull attack, and confronting someone you’ve never seen before, who is acting suspiciously in a gated community that had recently had break ins/thefts/whatever, is not “purposely going out to invite confrontation”. That is you, and many others, making baseless assumptions.

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

I’m not saying having a CCW is trying to be a tough guy at all … It’s actually probably prudent [/quote]

[/quote]

Do you not see the difference between possessing a CCW and carrying it to protect you or your family from harm that might befall you unexpectedly vs strapping up with the express purpose of going out and basically inviting confrontation?[/quote]

Did you read this post?

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

How is it disproven? The police courses and the job applications?

And he is a pussy for prowling around without police authority thinking he was tough BECAUSE he was carrying a firearm … I guarantee he wouldn’t confront a fly without 'ol smoky on his hip …

I don’t think he’s guilty of the charges, but he sure is hell guilty of being a dumbass. If you are going to start confrontations and the only recourse you have if they go sour is a gun, you’re a pussy and a moron. He obviously couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag, so this was going to probably happen sooner or later when he made the wrong person angry.
[/quote]

-Of the 402 calls to the police by residents of The Retreat at Twin Lakes, within the past 18 months leading to the shooting, 7 of them were by Mr. Zimmerman. That means less than 2 percent of all calls were Mr. Zimmerman.

-Mr. Zimmerman acquired a handgun due to a pitbull that had been loose, after being suggested to do so, by Seminole County Animal Services officer. The pitbull has previously cornered his wife.

There had also been recent break ins in the area. Just cause he saw something suspicious and happened to be packing, which A LOT of people in the U.S. are, how does this justify your jumping to conclusions about him “prowling around” in his own gated community with “police authority”.

I doubt a guy with a job and a wife is looking to shoot random black people in a gated community (with 20% black people) where he lives, and is very known, given he is the (elected) neighborhood watch coordinator. He saw someone behaving suspiciously and called the police. Martin saw him and took off, which made Mr. Zimmerman even more suspicious.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this scenario. I’d say Mr. Zimmerman was completely in the right to arm himself, given the course of events (being jumped).[/quote]

It was incase of a pitbull attack, and confronting someone you’ve never seen before, who is acting suspiciously in a gated community that had recently had break ins/thefts/whatever, is not “purposely going out to invite confrontation”. That is you, and many others, making baseless assumptions.
[/quote]

I did. Again, I don’t think he’s guilty as charged. I don’t think he was looking to shoot random black people in his neighborhood. I don’t think he had to listen to the police dispatcher. But the fact that he is a “duly elected” watch commander with no training or authority is, in my opinion, a recipe for disaster if he is going to do ANYTHING other than call the police when he sees suspicious behavior.

It is my opinion that the gun made him braver than he would have been without it. This led to him ignoring the dispatcher (again, legal) and pursuing, even momentarily, which apparently was enough to aggravate the wrong person. I don’t think he behaves this way without a gun.

The reason he bought the gun is irrelevant. Once he had it, he was empowered to (most likely) put himself in situations he might not have otherwise.

I agree he had the right to carry, to confront, and to defend himself when it went bad. I just don’t think Zimmerman wold have ramped it up to a level that made Martin either annoyed or threatened enough to confront and/or attack without the gun. Maybe he would have and did it before buying the gun for pit bulls … I doubt it though.

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[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

I’m not saying having a CCW is trying to be a tough guy at all … It’s actually probably prudent [/quote]

[/quote]

Do you not see the difference between possessing a CCW and carrying it to protect you or your family from harm that might befall you unexpectedly vs strapping up with the express purpose of going out and basically inviting confrontation?[/quote]

Did you read this post?

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

How is it disproven? The police courses and the job applications?

And he is a pussy for prowling around without police authority thinking he was tough BECAUSE he was carrying a firearm … I guarantee he wouldn’t confront a fly without 'ol smoky on his hip …

I don’t think he’s guilty of the charges, but he sure is hell guilty of being a dumbass. If you are going to start confrontations and the only recourse you have if they go sour is a gun, you’re a pussy and a moron. He obviously couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag, so this was going to probably happen sooner or later when he made the wrong person angry.
[/quote]

-Of the 402 calls to the police by residents of The Retreat at Twin Lakes, within the past 18 months leading to the shooting, 7 of them were by Mr. Zimmerman. That means less than 2 percent of all calls were Mr. Zimmerman.

-Mr. Zimmerman acquired a handgun due to a pitbull that had been loose, after being suggested to do so, by Seminole County Animal Services officer. The pitbull has previously cornered his wife.

There had also been recent break ins in the area. Just cause he saw something suspicious and happened to be packing, which A LOT of people in the U.S. are, how does this justify your jumping to conclusions about him “prowling around” in his own gated community with “police authority”.

I doubt a guy with a job and a wife is looking to shoot random black people in a gated community (with 20% black people) where he lives, and is very known, given he is the (elected) neighborhood watch coordinator. He saw someone behaving suspiciously and called the police. Martin saw him and took off, which made Mr. Zimmerman even more suspicious.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this scenario. I’d say Mr. Zimmerman was completely in the right to arm himself, given the course of events (being jumped).[/quote]

It was incase of a pitbull attack, and confronting someone you’ve never seen before, who is acting suspiciously in a gated community that had recently had break ins/thefts/whatever, is not “purposely going out to invite confrontation”. That is you, and many others, making baseless assumptions.
[/quote]

I did. Again, I don’t think he’s guilty as charged. I don’t think he was looking to shoot random black people in his neighborhood. I don’t think he had to listen to the police dispatcher. But the fact that he is a “duly elected” watch commander with no training or authority is, in my opinion, a recipe for disaster if he is going to do ANYTHING other than call the police when he sees suspicious behavior.

It is my opinion that the gun made him braver than he would have been without it. This led to him ignoring the dispatcher (again, legal) and pursuing, even momentarily, which apparently was enough to aggravate the wrong person. I don’t think he behaves this way without a gun.

The reason he bought the gun is irrelevant. Once he had it, he was empowered to (most likely) put himself in situations he might not have otherwise.

I agree he had the right to carry, to confront, and to defend himself when it went bad. I just don’t think Zimmerman wold have ramped it up to a level that made Martin either annoyed or threatened enough to confront and/or attack without the gun. Maybe he would have and did it before buying the gun for pit bulls … I doubt it though.

[/quote]

Martin jumped Mr. Zimmerman, as far as we know. Following a lone individual, to ask them what’s going on is not brazen behaviour. It’s completely within the norm of acceptable behaviour. The only “authority” he needed was his own. If someone in my neighbour is acting very suspicious, I will call the police and I most definitely will confront them. If some guy you don’t know is snooping around your neighbour’s backyard, would you not ask them who they were and wtf they were doing? I believe you are painting a certain picture about Mr. Zimmerman simply because the results.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
So what lesson you all should be learning from this is…[/quote]

being “white” is the new black
calling someone a “creepy ass cracker” is perfectly acceptable
having your nails did for court is more important than being able to speak or read
if you’re dead son becomes famous, trade mark his name and make that paper
avoid everything in florida that isnt a beach, or Gatorland. [/quote]

Not sure when Cracker became a curse? I mean hell Ritz Crackers, Cracker barrel, soup and Crackers. Is it really something you convict a person for if so then Ritz owes some white dudes a lot of cash.

But the fat chick was a sad display. [/quote]

Why are you denying that it is a racial slur?

Do you think it is okay to call folks Kike or WOP? [/quote]

Was it meant as a Racial Slur by Martin to the chick on the phone, Sure, but would it have been worse or better if he said Motherfucker?

I don’t even care if Zimmerman called Martin a Niger, his actions are what fucked him up that night not his vocabulary.

Now back to the Cracker word, come on in the realm of “slurs” that is pretty weak. I mean call me when they have Kike or Wop Barrel stores
[/quote]

Does it matter if it is weak if being racist is the motivation behind the word?

Did you really just demote Kike as a slur? I may have misunderstood. If I haven’t, Jews everywhere applaud your ability to look the other way.

I am not sure anyone uses WOP anymore anyways.

Even regarding Kike, I have spoken with Jewbacca about this and he isn’t bothered. Probably like Third Ruffian his skin is a little bit too thick to be bothered.

But it is the intent, motherfucker has no racial connotations. Trayvon was using a racial slur.

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

I’m not saying having a CCW is trying to be a tough guy at all … It’s actually probably prudent [/quote]

[/quote]

Do you not see the difference between possessing a CCW and carrying it to protect you or your family from harm that might befall you unexpectedly vs strapping up with the express purpose of going out and basically inviting confrontation?[/quote]

Did you read this post?

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

How is it disproven? The police courses and the job applications?

And he is a pussy for prowling around without police authority thinking he was tough BECAUSE he was carrying a firearm … I guarantee he wouldn’t confront a fly without 'ol smoky on his hip …

I don’t think he’s guilty of the charges, but he sure is hell guilty of being a dumbass. If you are going to start confrontations and the only recourse you have if they go sour is a gun, you’re a pussy and a moron. He obviously couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag, so this was going to probably happen sooner or later when he made the wrong person angry.
[/quote]

-Of the 402 calls to the police by residents of The Retreat at Twin Lakes, within the past 18 months leading to the shooting, 7 of them were by Mr. Zimmerman. That means less than 2 percent of all calls were Mr. Zimmerman.

-Mr. Zimmerman acquired a handgun due to a pitbull that had been loose, after being suggested to do so, by Seminole County Animal Services officer. The pitbull has previously cornered his wife.

There had also been recent break ins in the area. Just cause he saw something suspicious and happened to be packing, which A LOT of people in the U.S. are, how does this justify your jumping to conclusions about him “prowling around” in his own gated community with “police authority”.

I doubt a guy with a job and a wife is looking to shoot random black people in a gated community (with 20% black people) where he lives, and is very known, given he is the (elected) neighborhood watch coordinator. He saw someone behaving suspiciously and called the police. Martin saw him and took off, which made Mr. Zimmerman even more suspicious.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this scenario. I’d say Mr. Zimmerman was completely in the right to arm himself, given the course of events (being jumped).[/quote]

It was incase of a pitbull attack, and confronting someone you’ve never seen before, who is acting suspiciously in a gated community that had recently had break ins/thefts/whatever, is not “purposely going out to invite confrontation”. That is you, and many others, making baseless assumptions.
[/quote]

I did. Again, I don’t think he’s guilty as charged. I don’t think he was looking to shoot random black people in his neighborhood. I don’t think he had to listen to the police dispatcher. But the fact that he is a “duly elected” watch commander with no training or authority is, in my opinion, a recipe for disaster if he is going to do ANYTHING other than call the police when he sees suspicious behavior.

It is my opinion that the gun made him braver than he would have been without it. This led to him ignoring the dispatcher (again, legal) and pursuing, even momentarily, which apparently was enough to aggravate the wrong person. I don’t think he behaves this way without a gun.

The reason he bought the gun is irrelevant. Once he had it, he was empowered to (most likely) put himself in situations he might not have otherwise.

I agree he had the right to carry, to confront, and to defend himself when it went bad. I just don’t think Zimmerman wold have ramped it up to a level that made Martin either annoyed or threatened enough to confront and/or attack without the gun. Maybe he would have and did it before buying the gun for pit bulls … I doubt it though.

[/quote]

Martin jumped Mr. Zimmerman, as far as we know. Following a lone individual, to ask them what’s going on is not brazen behaviour. It’s completely within the norm of acceptable behaviour. The only “authority” he needed was his own. If someone in my neighbour is acting very suspicious, I will call the police and I most definitely will confront them. If some guy you don’t know is snooping around your neighbour’s backyard, would you not ask them who they were and wtf they were doing? I believe you are painting a certain picture about Mr. Zimmerman simply because the results.[/quote]

Pretty funny this trial has the people who agree on what the result should be arguing about the defendant

I think the gym owner painted a pretty good picture of someone who might not want to go around confronting strangers just because he was elected to be the community watch commander.

Fistfights happen all the time without people getting shot. I agree Martin jumped Zimmerman. I agree Zimmerman had the right to defend himself with a gun if necessary.

That the whole thing happened at all is stupid.

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[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

But again, Zimmerman is an idiot … And a pussy. So pussy shoots punk. They both did something stupid to end up where they are.
[/quote]

Nicely summed up.

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[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
So what lesson you all should be learning from this is…[/quote]

being “white” is the new black
calling someone a “creepy ass cracker” is perfectly acceptable
having your nails did for court is more important than being able to speak or read
if you’re dead son becomes famous, trade mark his name and make that paper
avoid everything in florida that isnt a beach, or Gatorland. [/quote]

Not sure when Cracker became a curse? I mean hell Ritz Crackers, Cracker barrel, soup and Crackers. Is it really something you convict a person for if so then Ritz owes some white dudes a lot of cash.

But the fat chick was a sad display. [/quote]

Why are you denying that it is a racial slur?

Do you think it is okay to call folks Kike or WOP? [/quote]

Was it meant as a Racial Slur by Martin to the chick on the phone, Sure, but would it have been worse or better if he said Motherfucker?

I don’t even care if Zimmerman called Martin a Niger, his actions are what fucked him up that night not his vocabulary.

Now back to the Cracker word, come on in the realm of “slurs” that is pretty weak. I mean call me when they have Kike or Wop Barrel stores
[/quote]

Does it matter if it is weak if being racist is the motivation behind the word?

Did you really just demote Kike as a slur? I may have misunderstood. If I haven’t, Jews everywhere applaud your ability to look the other way.

I am not sure anyone uses WOP anymore anyways.

Even regarding Kike, I have spoken with Jewbacca about this and he isn’t bothered. Probably like Third Ruffian his skin is a little bit too thick to be bothered.

But it is the intent, motherfucker has no racial connotations. Trayvon was using a racial slur.
[/quote]

Unlike some I don’t really see race being a big an issue on that confrontation? I also would not care what the person was calling me as he was kicking my ass. That was one of my points.

I also stated in my first line it was a Meant as a racial slur (the comedy in it is Martin never said it to Zimmerman so it would not have added to a heated
exchange).

As for the other two slurs you brought up those into the conversation I just responded.

I don’t really understand what part of my statement are you debating or have issue with?

Is it just me?

Do you think I’m Racist?

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
So what lesson you all should be learning from this is…[/quote]

being “white” is the new black
calling someone a “creepy ass cracker” is perfectly acceptable
having your nails did for court is more important than being able to speak or read
if you’re dead son becomes famous, trade mark his name and make that paper
avoid everything in florida that isnt a beach, or Gatorland. [/quote]

Not sure when Cracker became a curse? I mean hell Ritz Crackers, Cracker barrel, soup and Crackers. Is it really something you convict a person for if so then Ritz owes some white dudes a lot of cash.

But the fat chick was a sad display. [/quote]

Why are you denying that it is a racial slur?

Do you think it is okay to call folks Kike or WOP? [/quote]

Was it meant as a Racial Slur by Martin to the chick on the phone, Sure, but would it have been worse or better if he said Motherfucker?

I don’t even care if Zimmerman called Martin a Niger, his actions are what fucked him up that night not his vocabulary.

Now back to the Cracker word, come on in the realm of “slurs” that is pretty weak. I mean call me when they have Kike or Wop Barrel stores
[/quote]

Does it matter if it is weak if being racist is the motivation behind the word?

Did you really just demote Kike as a slur? I may have misunderstood. If I haven’t, Jews everywhere applaud your ability to look the other way.

I am not sure anyone uses WOP anymore anyways.

Even regarding Kike, I have spoken with Jewbacca about this and he isn’t bothered. Probably like Third Ruffian his skin is a little bit too thick to be bothered.

But it is the intent, motherfucker has no racial connotations. Trayvon was using a racial slur.
[/quote]

Unlike some I don’t really see race being a big an issue on that confrontation? I also would not care what the person was calling me as he was kicking my ass. That was one of my points.

I also stated in my first line it was a Meant as a racial slur (the comedy in it is Martin never said it to Zimmerman so it would not have added to a heated
exchange).

As for the other two slurs you brought up those into the conversation I just responded.

I don’t really understand what part of my statement are you debating or have issue with?

Is it just me?

Do you think I’m Racist?

[/quote]

I have no idea if you are racist. You just seem dismissive of Trayvon being racist. But really, what you think doesn’t have anything to do with the case; so I suppose there is no debate here.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
So what lesson you all should be learning from this is…[/quote]

being “white” is the new black
calling someone a “creepy ass cracker” is perfectly acceptable
having your nails did for court is more important than being able to speak or read
if you’re dead son becomes famous, trade mark his name and make that paper
avoid everything in florida that isnt a beach, or Gatorland. [/quote]
Not sure when Cracker became a curse? I mean hell Ritz Crackers, Cracker barrel, soup and Crackers. Is it really something you convict a person for if so then Ritz owes some white dudes a lot of cash.

But the fat chick was a sad display. [/quote]

Why are you denying that it is a racial slur?
Do you think it is okay to call folks Kike or WOP? [/quote]

Was it meant as a Racial Slur by Martin to the chick on the phone, Sure, but would it have been worse or better if he said Motherfucker?

I don’t even care if Zimmerman called Martin a Niger, his actions are what fucked him up that night not his vocabulary.

Now back to the Cracker word, come on in the realm of “slurs” that is pretty weak. I mean call me when they have Kike or Wop Barrel stores
[/quote]

are you seriously taking that stance, or is that sarcasm and I missed it?
[/quote]

Trying to type with my phone is pissing me off…

Now to your question. What did you think I meant. I thought it was an honest answer to her question.

(had to re-type)
[/quote]
i was addressing the cracker comment you made with cracker barrel being a place so it cant be racist.

well, ‘cracker’ is short for ‘whip-cracker’. so when there is a ‘whip-cracker barrel’ then your point may be valid. until then, it is a racist slur to white people.

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[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Love Nike wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
So what lesson you all should be learning from this is…[/quote]

being “white” is the new black
calling someone a “creepy ass cracker” is perfectly acceptable
having your nails did for court is more important than being able to speak or read
if you’re dead son becomes famous, trade mark his name and make that paper
avoid everything in florida that isnt a beach, or Gatorland. [/quote]
Not sure when Cracker became a curse? I mean hell Ritz Crackers, Cracker barrel, soup and Crackers. Is it really something you convict a person for if so
then Ritz owes some white dudes a lot of cash.

But the fat chick was a sad display. [/quote]

Why are you denying that it is a racial slur?
Do you think it is okay to call folks Kike or WOP? [/quote]

Was it meant as a Racial Slur by Martin to the chick on the phone, Sure, but would it have been worse or better if he said Motherfucker?

I don’t even care if Zimmerman called Martin a Niger, his actions are what fucked him up that night not his vocabulary.

Now back to the Cracker word, come on in the realm of “slurs” that is pretty weak. I mean call me when they have Kike or Wop Barrel stores
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are you seriously taking that stance, or is that sarcasm and I missed it?
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Trying to type with my phone is pissing me off…

Now to your question. What did you think I meant. I thought it was an honest answer to her question.

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i was addressing the cracker comment you made with cracker barrel being a place so it cant be racist.

well, ‘cracker’ is short for ‘whip-cracker’. so when there is a ‘whip-cracker barrel’ then your point may be valid. until then, it is a racist slur to white

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Never heard that before, and I’m not a young guy. What is a “Whip-Cracker”?

Once again never said it wasn’t a Racial Slur. Just on the list of slurs it is a weak one.

But “whip cracker” hmmm yep that is the first I ever heard of that.

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For you guys that feel like Zimmerman should have been prepared for a fight, if he wanted to question Martin. Why should he have been prepared for a fight? Have we lost our civility? It is like you are saying anytime you interact with someone in public you should have to be prepared to fight. What happened to talking?

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

But again, Zimmerman is an idiot … And a pussy. So pussy shoots punk. They both did something stupid to end up where they are.
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Nicely summed up. [/quote]

Stiglitz you forgot to say /thread.

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[quote]WW3General wrote:
For you guys that feel like Zimmerman should have been prepared for a fight, if he wanted to question Martin. Why should he have been prepared for a fight? Have we lost our civility? It is like you are saying anytime you interact with someone in public you should have to be prepared to fight. What happened to talking? [/quote]

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