Trayvon Martin Trial

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:
They both did something stupid to end up where they are.
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Bingoooo.

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
And yes I may have rolled on his ass like what the fuck man. Why are you creeping on me???[/quote]

Lol I don’t talk jive or internetz or whatever pish slang you use so apologies I took “rolled on his ass” as meaning a physical confrontation.

My point still stands, why not just run? Why confront him? Why risk a potentially bad scenario?

Cause you are dense, thinking you are alpha just like it seems Trayvon did.

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I like what you did there …

Exactly - live by the sword, die by the sword … Or live by the fist, die by the gun

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
And yes I may have rolled on his ass like what the fuck man. Why are you creeping on me???[/quote]

Lol I don’t talk jive or internetz or whatever pish slang you use so apologies I took “rolled on his ass” as meaning a physical confrontation.

My point still stands, why not just run? Why confront him? Why risk a potentially bad scenario?

Cause you are dense, thinking you are alpha just like it seems Trayvon did.

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Sure, fine I’m dense. At 14 I’m sure you lived the life of a saint.

Hail saint you. Do you feel any better.

Let us all just Blame the dead kid mistake but ignore Zimmerman leaving a car with his gun, all while thinking a hoodlum is near by. Because as an adult does that make any sense?[/quote]

I waterbombed houses at 14, not getting into fights and smoking weed.

I completely agree Zimmerman leaving the car was a mistake because it caused all this to happen. And it seems indeed a hoodlum was nearby.

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
And yes I may have rolled on his ass like what the fuck man. Why are you creeping on me???[/quote]

Lol I don’t talk jive or internetz or whatever pish slang you use so apologies I took “rolled on his ass” as meaning a physical confrontation.

My point still stands, why not just run? Why confront him? Why risk a potentially bad scenario?

Cause you are dense, thinking you are alpha just like it seems Trayvon did.

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I like what you did there …

Exactly - live by the sword, die by the sword … Or live by the fist, die by the gun[/quote]

Tee hee

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

lol, I think you are missing the point and not reading carefully. [/quote]

I got it, but it wasn’t worth a proper response.

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

Do you regularly go around making up facts? [/quote]

I don’t make up facts; we will see from the following that YOU do, though.

And?

This is some high IQ stuff right here, folks.

No, they aren’t.

Irrelevant.

Stalking is obsessive and repetitive behavior. Following someone whom you presume is up to no good (like the guys in the King of Bel Air) is…following. Not stalking. Also, Mr. Zimmerman did not run after him.

The gun didn’t come out until during the fight. You clearly know nothing of what happened. If I felt threatened enough, I would have called the police. I probably would have stood still and watched Mr. Zimmerman and gone from there.

Then I’d be all like “naaah man, I ain’t thieving, I just wanted some skittles. Taste the rainbow, muddafukka, knowmasayin? I’m staying at my dad’s fiancee’s house. Do you know her? She lives on xxxxxx. Her name is lafawnshaqua leequa”.[/quote]

I would ask you why didn’t you send the video of Zimmerman walking up to Trayvon with his gun hidden since your the only one with this privileged evidence, but I’ll just assume it’s stuck with the rest of your made up facts, like no dispatchers are cops. That’s really not difficult to research, well it is if you think it’s high IQ stuff.

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
And yes I may have rolled on his ass like what the fuck man. Why are you creeping on me???[/quote]

Lol I don’t talk jive or internetz or whatever pish slang you use so apologies I took “rolled on his ass” as meaning a physical confrontation.

My point still stands, why not just run? Why confront him? Why risk a potentially bad scenario?

Cause you are dense, thinking you are alpha just like it seems Trayvon did.

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Sure, fine I’m dense. At 14 I’m sure you lived the life of a saint.

Hail saint you. Do you feel any better.

Let us all just Blame the dead kid mistake but ignore Zimmerman leaving a car with his gun, all while thinking a hoodlum is near by. Because as an adult does that make any sense?[/quote]

I waterbombed houses at 14, not getting into fights and smoking weed.

I completely agree Zimmerman leaving the car was a mistake because it caused all this to happen. And it seems indeed a hoodlum was nearby.
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Which is why his ass is in court. See a whole conversation without me cutting your statement to make a point… Grown ups WOW

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

I would ask you why didn’t you send the video of Zimmerman walking up to Trayvon with his gun hidden since your the only one with this privileged evidence, but I’ll just assume it’s stuck with the rest of your made up facts, like no dispatchers are cops. That’s really not difficult to research, well it is if you think it’s high IQ stuff.

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Why would Martin confront a guy brandishing a handgun? If Martin ran away, and George Zimmerman is an out of shape man, how did Martin and Zimmerman meet for the second time?

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

lol, I think you are missing the point and not reading carefully. [/quote]

I got it, but it wasn’t worth a proper response.

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

Do you regularly go around making up facts? [/quote]

I don’t make up facts; we will see from the following that YOU do, though.

And?

This is some high IQ stuff right here, folks.

No, they aren’t.

Irrelevant.

Stalking is obsessive and repetitive behavior. Following someone whom you presume is up to no good (like the guys in the King of Bel Air) is…following. Not stalking. Also, Mr. Zimmerman did not run after him.

The gun didn’t come out until during the fight. You clearly know nothing of what happened. If I felt threatened enough, I would have called the police. I probably would have stood still and watched Mr. Zimmerman and gone from there.

Then I’d be all like “naaah man, I ain’t thieving, I just wanted some skittles. Taste the rainbow, muddafukka, knowmasayin? I’m staying at my dad’s fiancee’s house. Do you know her? She lives on xxxxxx. Her name is lafawnshaqua leequa”.[/quote]

I would ask you why didn’t you send the video of Zimmerman walking up to Trayvon with his gun hidden since your the only one with this privileged evidence, but I’ll just assume it’s stuck with the rest of your made up facts, like no dispatchers are cops. That’s really not difficult to research, well it is if you think it’s high IQ stuff.

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OK … You’re right … Dispatchers ARE cops

At 3 officer police departments …

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

Zimmerman is a wannabe cop[/quote]

This has been disproven.

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

But again, Zimmerman is […] a pussy.
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How is he a pussy for confronting a potential thief/burglar?

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

I would ask you why didn’t you send the video of Zimmerman walking up to Trayvon with his gun hidden since your the only one with this privileged evidence, but I’ll just assume it’s stuck with the rest of your made up facts, like no dispatchers are cops. That’s really not difficult to research, well it is if you think it’s high IQ stuff.

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Why would Martin confront a guy brandishing a handgun? If Martin ran away, and George Zimmerman is an out of shape man, how did Martin and Zimmerman meet for the second time?[/quote]

Martin stop Running and Zimmerman following turned the corner and they met. And I do believe at that point it happened as Zimmerman said.

Martin said why are you following me.

Zimmerman said something stupid, Martin said something stupid.

FIGHT.

Zimmerman was on the bad side of the fight thought this may be his ass. bang

Martin said his last words

Zimmerman waited for cops

[quote]four60 wrote:

Martin stop Running and Zimmerman following turned the corner and they met. And I do believe at that point it happened as Zimmerman said. [/quote]

So Mr. Zimmerman said he did not follow Martin, but that he was on his way back to his car and was jumped.

So you believe everything after the “got jumped”, but not before, even though if Mr. Zimmerman followed him, by running, walking, or flying, he would still be legally in the right?
Why would he lie about something so insignificant?

Why didn’t Martin continue running to his house, which was not far away?

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Why didn’t Martin continue running to his house, which was not far away?[/quote]

Dude, already asked. It goes no where lol.

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

Martin stop Running and Zimmerman following turned the corner and they met. And I do believe at that point it happened as Zimmerman said. [/quote]

So Mr. Zimmerman said he did not follow Martin, but that he was on his way back to his car and was jumped.

So you believe everything after the “got jumped”, but not before, even though if Mr. Zimmerman followed him, by running, walking, or flying, he would still be legally in the right?
Why would he lie about something so insignificant?

Why didn’t Martin continue running to his house, which was not far away?[/quote]

Well for no other reason than it sounds like a lie. The kid not only stop running and turned around but according to Zimmerman hey went past him and back up to him ???

It just makes sense Martin stopped (stupid but 17 yr olds are full of macho BS) and just waited to see if this guy would turn the corner still following him.

And sure enough Zimmerman and Martin had that fight around that corner on that long street.

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Why didn’t Martin continue running to his house, which was not far away?[/quote]

Dude, already asked. It goes no where lol.[/quote]

He was being a 17yr old. Young and dumb.

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Why didn’t Martin continue running to his house, which was not far away?[/quote]

Dude, already asked. It goes no where lol.[/quote]

He was being a 17yr old. Young and dumb. [/quote]

And he paid the price for that stupidity.

Don’t get me wrong it is sad.

17 year old rapes gf, it’s cool he’s just young and dumb.

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

Zimmerman is a wannabe cop[/quote]

This has been disproven.

[quote]Stiglitz wrote:

But again, Zimmerman is […] a pussy.
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How is he a pussy for confronting a potential thief/burglar?[/quote]

How is it disproven? The police courses and the job applications?

And he is a pussy for prowling around without police authority thinking he was tough BECAUSE he was carrying a firearm … I guarantee he wouldn’t confront a fly without 'ol smoky on his hip …

I don’t think he’s guilty of the charges, but he sure is hell guilty of being a dumbass. If you are going to start confrontations and the only recourse you have if they go sour is a gun, you’re a pussy and a moron. He obviously couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag, so this was going to probably happen sooner or later when he made the wrong person angry.

This is why ignorant people who haven’t payed attention to the trial shouldn’t even talk about it. There are so many stupid posts in here.

Dispatchers are NOT cops, why the fuck do people keep saying this. Zimmerman’s gun was hidden under his jacket in a holster. Zimm isn’t an idiot, he was trying to help out his neighborhood and was doing that by being a watchman. I believe Zimm got out of his car cause the dispatcher said which way is he running and Zimm was trying to find out/follow him to keep track of where he went. Not hunt him down. After he stopped following he started walking toward the other street to see the address to give to cops. When he got back to the T intersection Martin was waiting for him. Fight ensues, bang!

Now, I dc what side anyone is on, I believing the damning evidence in the case is two things.

  1. Martin had FOUR minutes to get to his house. Those four minutes were when Zimm said he started to run. Now, Martin said he was near his house to his friend on the phone. His dad’s fiance’s house was on the OTHER side of the T intersection. I don’t know approximate yardage but that doesn’t matter, look at the pictures. So why if he was at his Dad’s house would he go all the way down to the other side, makes no sense.

2.Zimm had all the injuries. Busted nose, busted head, lacerations, etc. Martin had little cuts on his knuckles and obviously the gunshot. From this, anyone with their head screwed on straight should realize that Zimm didn’t initiate the fight. Zimm got his ass beat and wasn’t a fighter. He was a soft, non-athletic, guy. .5 to 1 in about a year of training, which was to lose weight. Come on now, the man couldn’t even throw a punch.

Now, if someone wants to have a mature debate on this I am willing, but take your emotions and bias out of it.

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Why didn’t Martin continue running to his house, which was not far away?[/quote]

Dude, already asked. It goes no where lol.[/quote]

He was being a 17yr old. Young and dumb. [/quote]

And he paid the price for that stupidity.

Don’t get me wrong it is sad.

17 year old rapes gf, it’s cool he’s just young and dumb.
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Are you comparing a dumb move like stopping to confront a guy following you to a sadistic act like raping a person?

I have no answer for that

He wasn’t trying to start a fight, wtf is with you people. Wannabe cop, dude, come on. He was studying criminal justice in school. So anyone who studies it is a wannabe cop. That makes no sense, sir. And having a conceal carry permit is not trying to be a tough guy. I imagine it is for his safety, like others who have them.

[quote]four60 wrote:
Well for no other reason than it sounds like a lie. The kid not only stop running and turned around but according to Zimmerman hey went past him and back up to him ???
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It just makes sense Martin stopped (stupid but 17 yr olds are full of macho BS) and just waited to see if this guy would turn the corner still following him.[/quote]

So Martin, a 17 year old full of macho BS (which can be strongly suggested given his behaviour leading to the shooting), would stop running around some arbitrary corner not far from his house, and wait, but he wouldn’t circle around and try to confront this guy? Possibly even jump him?

Second one (of ambushing Mr. Zimmerman) sounds much more plausible given a macho BS personality.