Trayvon Martin Pt. 3.. The Legacy Pt. 2

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I think it’s safe to say that since statistical evidence shows us that most crimes being committed are committed by minorities, there’s reason to think that the crimes that occur but don’t get reported also fall along similar lines. [/quote]

Actually, this thinking is flawed because it implies that profiling has no effect at all on how many of what people get arrested.

Profiling is a large social issue…because by saying “blacks commit more crime” you start a perpetual act of “defense” against “black skin” alone.

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Anyone who knows even a thing about statistics knows that correlation does not imply causation, X. No one here putting forth the statistical argument is claiming that blacks commit crimes because they are black, yet you seem to assume that we do. It’s a bullshit fallacy that you’ve assigned to our argument that simply isn’t there because it’s the only way for you to bolster yours.[/quote]

By basing this on COLOR you ignore the socio-economic factors that are the true cause…and ensure that other black people will be met with more bias because of the implication.

It is this bias that is referred to in “majority privilege”.

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You say that we have “no clue” regarding how many crimes are committed. The reality is that crime statistics DO give us a pretty good clue as to how many are being committed. You’re the only one arguing that the stats are not representative of reality. NO ONE is arguing that stats represent Every. Single. Crime. Ever. Yet you continue to hammer away as if we are.[/quote]

Actually, all I said is we have no clue how many crimes or even what crimes are being committed. You are the one saying that our limited sample based on PROFILING represents all crime.

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Why do you think that stats show such a disparity between blacks and whites and the crimes they commit?[/quote]

Because that is what was looked at…and not the socio-economic factors that are the true cause.

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Do you think that for whatever reason crimes being committed by whites don’t go reported at a high rate, while for whatever reason most crimes committed by blacks DO go reported? Is this what you arguing?[/quote]

Uh, YES…that is what PROFILING ensures.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I think it’s safe to say that since statistical evidence shows us that most crimes being committed are committed by minorities, there’s reason to think that the crimes that occur but don’t get reported also fall along similar lines. [/quote]

Actually, this thinking is flawed because it implies that profiling has no effect at all on how many of what people get arrested.

Profiling is a large social issue…because by saying “blacks commit more crime” you start a perpetual act of “defense” against “black skin” alone.

[quote]

Anyone who knows even a thing about statistics knows that correlation does not imply causation, X. No one here putting forth the statistical argument is claiming that blacks commit crimes because they are black, yet you seem to assume that we do. It’s a bullshit fallacy that you’ve assigned to our argument that simply isn’t there because it’s the only way for you to bolster yours.[/quote]

By basing this on COLOR you ignore the socio-economic factors that are the true cause…and ensure that other black people will be met with more bias because of the implication.

It is this bias that is referred to in “majority privilege”.

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You say that we have “no clue” regarding how many crimes are committed. The reality is that crime statistics DO give us a pretty good clue as to how many are being committed. You’re the only one arguing that the stats are not representative of reality. NO ONE is arguing that stats represent Every. Single. Crime. Ever. Yet you continue to hammer away as if we are.[/quote]

Actually, all I said is we have no clue how many crimes or even what crimes are being committed. You are the one saying that our limited sample based on PROFILING represents all crime.

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Why do you think that stats show such a disparity between blacks and whites and the crimes they commit?[/quote]

Because that is what was looked at…and not the socio-economic factors that are the true cause.

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Do you think that for whatever reason crimes being committed by whites don’t go reported at a high rate, while for whatever reason most crimes committed by blacks DO go reported? Is this what you arguing?[/quote]

Uh, YES…that is what PROFILING ensures.[/quote]

All you’ve done is boil this down to the chicken and egg thing. Which came first? High rates of minority crime, or the profiling of minorities?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

I never implied that the entire black race tolerated the pimp thing. I said that it was widely glorified in certain aspects of black culture.[/quote]

I just showed you it is glorified in certain aspects of white culture…or else the white pimp would not exist.

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Big difference there, X. Even if I DID say that, in no way does that imply that other races don’t tolerate it at all. Shit, I don’t tolerate it but I’ve acknowledged that many people from different races DO tolerate it. So, back to the original point about that. What are your thoughts on seeing blacks glorify slavery? [/quote]

Pimps are not slave owners.

Hoes are not slaves…so why do you keep asking a question about something irrelevant?

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If you don’t think that “hoes” are not slaves, you’re egregiously mistaken. If you make even a cursory attempt to research the issue a little you’ll find that most prostitutes are sex slaves forced into their trade by threat of violence and death against them and/or their family. Many others voluntarily start after shit in their lives goes awry and then are forced to stay in the business by threat of violence. Either way, the “pimps” running them are not nice people at all and have no regard for their prostitutes. The pimp is the modern-day slaveowner, and all your ignorant denials are not going to change this very basic fact, X.[/quote]

I know a pimp. His “hoe’s” get something out of that relationship just like he does.

You are outside of a culture trying to put it into a small box…when it is way more complex…while denying that anyone could possibly have more insight than you…which is strange.

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I am not saying that all blacks tolerate the pimps/hoes thing, only that the entirety of the race bears the responsibility to stop glorifying such a heinous enterprise,[/quote]

The entire race? WTF? So ALL WHITES are responsible to stop glorifying that white pimp?

How does this make sense to you?

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as do ALL races. Just because I feel that an entire race bears that burden does not mean that I feel the entire race glorifies it or tolerates it.[/quote]

These words imply that YOU have no responsibility…only blacks.

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That is a pretty clear distinction that is easy to make that you seem incapable of distinguishing between.

Perhaps it’s because it is another way for you to justify avoiding the actual issue at hand that I’ve brought up.[/quote]

I am responding directly to the issues you keep writing.

Your issues just seem very flawed.[/quote]

You know a pimp and his hoes get something out of the relationship as well? That justification reeks of the same attitude white slaveowners had in the South.

Talk about what words imply all you want. The fact is that I don’t sit here and glorify pimps enslaving women or justify it the way you just have.

And yes, ALL WHITES bear the responsibility of stopping white pimping. ALL PEOPLE do. That’s why when a pimp is arrested and taken to trial, the case is called “The people vs…” The thing is, whites are the ones accused of being racists, with the history of slavery being brought up as evidence of such. Okay, slavery is bad, we get it. It was horrible. If blacks think it is so horrible and all that, then why do large swaths of the black community, especially in hip-hop, continue to glorify slavery through the pimp/hoe thing?

And let’s just stop with the “pimps aren’t slaveowners” bullshit. You know a pimp? Big fucking deal. I was a member of S.T.O.P. all throughout my college career and met dozens and dozens of former sex slaves. Real, actual slaves who got nothing out of the arrangement but the “right” to live another day and suck another ten dicks. So don’t sit here and tell me that pimps aren’t slaveowners. I’ve seen the evidence with my own two eyes.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

  1. A black man has something like a 10% more likely chance to be murdered than a white man, killer’s skin color irrelevant. This is wrong. This shouldn’t be like this. This is, however NOT a race dependent stat. This is a stat that reveals an economic aliment in our country. [/quote]

…and a social one…but as we can see…others are boiling it down to race alone and literally fighting tooth and nail to keep it up for several pages.

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The economic disparity certainly is greatly effected by the government’s intervention and oppression of the freedom of black people up until relatively recently, bullshit like mandatory sentencing, the war on drugs and “tough on street crime” political bullshit.

So this leads to the false narrative that “blacks more likely to be criminals”. That isn’t the case. Poor people are more likely to be criminals, skin color doesn’t make anyone a criminal minded person. [/quote]

Agree completely.

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A lot of the instances where people talked about being safe or not safe in a neighborhood based on skin color, do ignore it typically isn’t safe to be any race in those neighborhoods. You can bet being Asian and walking down a an ABZ block isn’t going to prevent you from being see as a mark, even though a black or white person would stand out more “in the crowd”. [/quote]

Then why did so many people argue this for so many pages?

You would swear from these posts that blacks can freely walk in those parts of town…when the truth is, all data shows that BLACKS are at greatest risk…so why do so many “majorities” see themselves as victims?

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Poor people are at the most danger. And cities are more dangerous than rural areas, and black poor tend to live in cities.

Again, this is why stats suck to argue with a lot of the time, they can lead you to a false conclusion.

But anyway, this is a lot of typing to say “I agree with large portions of what you are saying”. [/quote]

Thank you.

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Ideologically, I disagree with the premise of AA, because it forces people to judge based on skin color.[/quote]

Yes, but that is because all of society was already doing that against a certain race to the degree that it set back progress on a grand scale.

We would not be in 2013 talking about things being better if it had never been instated.

Oh, it was by no means a perfect setup…but it is damn sure better than the way things were.

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Right. (I still wear baggy pants, and dont’ care if that makes me out of touch with current styles. Finding a tailor that will work with were I wear my pants and still cut a full break is a pain in the ass.)

Like I said before though, you live in the culture, and it takes time for culture to spread.

Tats took an awful long time, and in some ways still aren’t, before they didn’t automatically make someone a scumbag. [/quote]

…which is the point. If this were 1990, baggy pants alone and a sideways cap would have labeled you a THUG if you were black. Throughout our recent history, that has been pretty much the case with any style embraced largely by young black males…it is immediately seen as a “criminal stereotype”…which points to many social issues.

I think most people refuse to even think for themselves…which is why so many will argue the “blacks commit more crime” into the ground without even trying to understand the real issues.

People are just parrots for talking heads now.

I value those who do not follow the pack.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

I never implied that the entire black race tolerated the pimp thing. I said that it was widely glorified in certain aspects of black culture.[/quote]

I just showed you it is glorified in certain aspects of white culture…or else the white pimp would not exist.

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Big difference there, X. Even if I DID say that, in no way does that imply that other races don’t tolerate it at all. Shit, I don’t tolerate it but I’ve acknowledged that many people from different races DO tolerate it. So, back to the original point about that. What are your thoughts on seeing blacks glorify slavery? [/quote]

Pimps are not slave owners.

Hoes are not slaves…so why do you keep asking a question about something irrelevant?

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If you don’t think that “hoes” are not slaves, you’re egregiously mistaken. If you make even a cursory attempt to research the issue a little you’ll find that most prostitutes are sex slaves forced into their trade by threat of violence and death against them and/or their family. Many others voluntarily start after shit in their lives goes awry and then are forced to stay in the business by threat of violence. Either way, the “pimps” running them are not nice people at all and have no regard for their prostitutes. The pimp is the modern-day slaveowner, and all your ignorant denials are not going to change this very basic fact, X.[/quote]

I know a pimp. His “hoe’s” get something out of that relationship just like he does.

You are outside of a culture trying to put it into a small box…when it is way more complex…while denying that anyone could possibly have more insight than you…which is strange.

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I am not saying that all blacks tolerate the pimps/hoes thing, only that the entirety of the race bears the responsibility to stop glorifying such a heinous enterprise,[/quote]

The entire race? WTF? So ALL WHITES are responsible to stop glorifying that white pimp?

How does this make sense to you?

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as do ALL races. Just because I feel that an entire race bears that burden does not mean that I feel the entire race glorifies it or tolerates it.[/quote]

These words imply that YOU have no responsibility…only blacks.

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That is a pretty clear distinction that is easy to make that you seem incapable of distinguishing between.

Perhaps it’s because it is another way for you to justify avoiding the actual issue at hand that I’ve brought up.[/quote]

I am responding directly to the issues you keep writing.

Your issues just seem very flawed.[/quote]

LOL

He knows “a pimp.”

But, since that is only a sample, and you dont know EVERY pimp, then you cannot say that this is at all indicative of the entire pimp population (pimpulation)

Im just going off Professor X logic here

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

How about we start with actually posting the links to all these evil whitey schools that don’t admit blacks, and then we’ll see if I 'deny" anything…

Okay? [/quote]

How about you read those two posts on white privilege first and tell me if you agree with them. Notice how you conveniently ignored them and, you’re still claiming it doesn’t exist.

Just like Amerikkka’s racist institution doesn’t exist either.

Lol.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
…and since the pic was posted…look at them arms!!!

Hell yeah, motorcycle accident recovery and progress made.

After 36 pages, maybe some here should spend more time in the gym too.[/quote]

Looking swooooolle, Brotha!!

Hahahaha!!!

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

All you’ve done is boil this down to the chicken and egg thing. Which came first? High rates of minority crime, or the profiling of minorities?[/quote]

Actually, all I did was state reality…that this is a cause and effect phenom…where you can not sit there and point the finger at “black people” and think this act has ZERO carry over into how that race is treated.

Profiling alone has set a SOCIAL TREND where blacks will be stereotyped on skin color alone which affects an entire race of people on a grand scale.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

You know a pimp and his hoes get something out of the relationship as well? That justification reeks of the same attitude white slaveowners had in the South. [/quote]

Justification?

A slave is OWNED by someone in all social matters. This is not the case with a pimp.

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Talk about what words imply all you want. The fact is that I don’t sit here and glorify pimps enslaving women or justify it the way you just have.[/quote]

I didn’t glorify it. I simply said it is not slavery…which is true.

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And yes, ALL WHITES bear the responsibility of stopping white pimping. ALL PEOPLE do.[/quote]

Why do all people have the responsibility to stop “white pimps” but blacks alone have the responsibility to stop black pimps?

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That’s why when a pimp is arrested and taken to trial, the case is called “The people vs…” The thing is, whites are the ones accused of being racists, with the history of slavery being brought up as evidence of such. Okay, slavery is bad, we get it. It was horrible. If blacks think it is so horrible and all that, then why do large swaths of the black community, especially in hip-hop, continue to glorify slavery through the pimp/hoe thing?[/quote]

Uh, I just told you it isn’t slavery…so why do you keep calling it that?

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And let’s just stop with the “pimps aren’t slaveowners” bullshit. You know a pimp? Big fucking deal. I was a member of S.T.O.P. all throughout my college career and met dozens and dozens of former sex slaves. Real, actual slaves who got nothing out of the arrangement but the “right” to live another day and suck another ten dicks. So don’t sit here and tell me that pimps aren’t slaveowners. I’ve seen the evidence with my own two eyes.[/quote]

A “sex slave” is not a ho.

You seem turned around on what these terms mean.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

Why don’t you address this point instead of ignoring it?

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah[/quote]

Because I don’t give a FUCK about what YOU’ve got to say to me.

FUCK OFF.
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Don’t you make money off the porn industry?[/quote]

That’s so random. Yes, Brother, I have sinned. I’ve made a few millions selling a few ‘‘Adult’’ websites.

What has this got to do with this thread?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

All you’ve done is boil this down to the chicken and egg thing. Which came first? High rates of minority crime, or the profiling of minorities?[/quote]

Actually, all I did was state reality…that this is a cause and effect phenom…where you can not sit there and point the finger at “black people” and think this act has ZERO carry over into how that race is treated.

Profiling alone has set a SOCIAL TREND where blacks will be stereotyped on skin color alone which affects an entire race of people on a grand scale.[/quote]

You’ve done no such thing. You whine about people using statistics as evidence, arguing that we don’t really know how many crimes are being committed. And then you turn around and say that profiling essentially leads to this massive statistical discrepancy. You don’t know that. You simply assume it is the case.

I think it’s safe to say that blacks much more so than whites, have embraced certain things that glorify criminality. The sagging pants thing is one of them. It’s a trend that directly derives from prison “fashion”. It’s a look people affected, which originated in black communities, not white ones, that embraced looking like a prison inmate. The pimp thing, which you seem satisfied to deny completely, is another example.

We know that less education generally leads to more crime for most people. We also know that people who grow up in single-parent families are more likely to have a whole litany of social problems, crime being perhaps the most significant. We know that poverty usually begets crime as well. Last I checked, there wasn’t even allowed to be a “white” culture without being accused of being a member of the KKK. But the fact is that I don’t hear white musicians constantly glorifying pimping and other such criminal behavior. The outcry I hear about violence in the “white” community is about violence in general, whereas in the black community the outcry is usually over violence perpetrated specifically onto blacks. And while I see whites aggressively sagging their pants from time to time, I see it WAY more often amongst blacks.

Your social trend bullshit is a thinly-veiled way of excusing criminal behavior because whites allegedly forced blacks into that situation. I don’t deny the existence of racism in this country, but it is simply not an excuse for the large prevalence of factors that lead to crime or correlate with crime that is present in black communities more than white ones. My black uncle, who is the wealthiest person I personally know, would be beyond insulted by the low opinion you seem to have of blacks, namely that blacks aren’t capable of overcoming the long odds you’ve placed upon them.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

You know a pimp and his hoes get something out of the relationship as well? That justification reeks of the same attitude white slaveowners had in the South. [/quote]

Justification?

A slave is OWNED by someone in all social matters. This is not the case with a pimp.

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Talk about what words imply all you want. The fact is that I don’t sit here and glorify pimps enslaving women or justify it the way you just have.[/quote]

I didn’t glorify it. I simply said it is not slavery…which is true.

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And yes, ALL WHITES bear the responsibility of stopping white pimping. ALL PEOPLE do.[/quote]

Why do all people have the responsibility to stop “white pimps” but blacks alone have the responsibility to stop black pimps?

[quote]
That’s why when a pimp is arrested and taken to trial, the case is called “The people vs…” The thing is, whites are the ones accused of being racists, with the history of slavery being brought up as evidence of such. Okay, slavery is bad, we get it. It was horrible. If blacks think it is so horrible and all that, then why do large swaths of the black community, especially in hip-hop, continue to glorify slavery through the pimp/hoe thing?[/quote]

Uh, I just told you it isn’t slavery…so why do you keep calling it that?

The end result of pimping is ownership of someone else. Whether or not it is institutionalized ownership such as in pre-Civil War South is immaterial. The net effect is ownership of someone else and control of many aspects of their life. The fact that you’re trying to rationalize this point is proof that you are uneasy with the massive hypocrisy I’ve brought to your attention.

I don’t give a fuck what you just told me. You can try to boil things down to semantical issues all you want, but you still ignore the fact that blacks justly decry the horrific treatment their ancestors received at the hands of slaveowners and overseers and then turn around and glorify what amounts to the same behavior. I’m not saying that this sort of hypocrisy doesn’t exist elsewhere. But we aren’t talking about elsewhere. When a thread about Italian-American stereotypes pops up, THEN you can bring up the Godfather or the Sopranos or Goodfellas all you want.

Slavery is many things. What makes it such a heinous thing is the effect that it has on other people, both physically and emotionally. If slavery weren’t so horrible for those enslaved, it might not have nearly the negative connotation that it does. It’s not necessarily the ownership aspect of slavery in and of itself that makes it so bad; it’s the extreme emotional and physical trauma that comes with it. It’s that trauma that blacks rightly rally against. So if that sort of trauma and that sort of treatment was so bad back then, why is there such widespread glorification of it amongst blacks today?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
From what I could tell, one.
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Only one white person died in Baltimore since Trayvon martin’s death last year? Or was it last month?

Wooaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoa!!! Unfuckingbeliebable.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Yes I care. Like I said in the other reply I do try to help, but it’s like having one arm tied behind my back.
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What do you to help exactly?

Tell me, could you name by heart, (don’t Google!) one or two organizations in Baltimore that exist to stop the senseless, every day murders of Black people by Black people? Do you know where their meetings take place? Do you take part in their meetings? Do you know the people who are a part of these organizations by name? Do you know them by sight? Would you ask them, ‘‘What can I do to help ya’ll?’’ Would you give them much needed money as support of their cause?

Thought so…

I do most of those. I don’t whine about it on the interwebs. I know Black on Black crime is being dealt with. I know I’m doing my part in wanting black youth to be educated, to be safe in the streets and being steered away from gang culture.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I would actively try and change a culture that allows that to happen.
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But how? I’ve asked you the first time and you couldn’t even tell me. I’ve asked you again above, and hopefully, we’ll get an answer. It’s all cool and dandy to whine on the interwebs about blacks killed by other blacks but FUCKING DO something about it if you fucking care.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Deflection from what real issue? That a semi white guy killed a black kid in self defense. I’m not going to argue about that with you. [/quote]

No, deflection from the fact that fucking pig got away with murder on the night of the killing and TM’s parents had to protest to have him arrested 45 fucking days later. Deflection from the fact that a murderer who killed an innocent kid has got away.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Also how am I whinning?
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You are. You keep on bringing BOB crime, which has nothing to do with TM’s case. Since you are so outraged over the fact that there isn’t any outrage for those murders, how about you do something about it yourself?

You care, you said? Then contact the families, speak to the TV stations and get those stories out. Fucking do it.

And please do not blame Black people. It was the white media who blew TM’s story out of proportion after all.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Trayvons parents have every right to be furious. It’s their child. I don’t expect them to be logical about this at all. It’s everyone else flipping out. They need a reality check. Like, 100+ people have been killed in Baltimore this year. Most of them black and no one says a word. Not the President, not Congress, not the Ravens, etc…All of whihc openned their mouths about this case. [/quote]

Haha, come on now, you sound really jealous! :slight_smile: TM gets a bit of spotlight and lot of you get your panties twisted. Fucking hell!

TM situation was totally different from those other people. I’m sure most of the killers have been fucking charged by now. They’re getting justice.

But, hey, like I said above, if you care so much, start doing something about it. NOW.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman trying to hurt him. Which is front page news and why?
[/quote]

You’re saying this as if that was a fact. Were you there?

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divide and conquer. The people in power are playing us like fiddles.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

You’ve done no such thing. You whine about people using statistics as evidence, arguing that we don’t really know how many crimes are being committed. And then you turn around and say that profiling essentially leads to this massive statistical discrepancy. You don’t know that. You simply assume it is the case.[/quote]

I didn’t “assume” anything. I said profiling leads to more arrests of those being profiled. I am not sure how you can argue against that.

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I think it’s safe to say that blacks much more so than whites, have embraced certain things that glorify criminality.[/quote]

Or it could be said that since blacks are seen as a “negative” in skin color alone, anything that culture does is seen in a negative way.

[quote]
The sagging pants thing is one of them. It’s a trend that directly derives from prison “fashion”. It’s a look people affected, which originated in black communities, not white ones, that embraced looking like a prison inmate. The pimp thing, which you seem satisfied to deny completely, is another example.[/quote]

No one with sagging pants today in that age group cares where some style came from in the 1980’s. It is a pop culture trend in 2013, not some call back t prison like you keep saying.

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We know that less education generally leads to more crime for most people. We also know that people who grow up in single-parent families are more likely to have a whole litany of social problems, crime being perhaps the most significant. We know that poverty usually begets crime as well. [/quote]

Well, gee, then why are you only looking at skin color?

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Last I checked, there wasn’t even allowed to be a “white” culture without being accused of being a member of the KKK. But the fact is that I don’t hear white musicians constantly glorifying pimping and other such criminal behavior. The outcry I hear about violence in the “white” community is about violence in general, whereas in the black community the outcry is usually over violence perpetrated specifically onto blacks. And while I see whites aggressively sagging their pants from time to time, I see it WAY more often amongst blacks.[/quote]

I am not sure where to even start here. With whites it is “violence in general”…and with blacks it is “specifically against blacks”…yet here you are telling us that blacks should be more concerned about their own race alone…which means you are mad because they do what you want?

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Your social trend bullshit is a thinly-veiled way of excusing criminal behavior because whites allegedly forced blacks into that situation. I don’t deny the existence of racism in this country, but it is simply not an excuse for the large prevalence of factors that lead to crime or correlate with crime that is present in black communities more than white ones. My black uncle, who is the wealthiest person I personally know, would be beyond insulted by the low opinion you seem to have of blacks, namely that blacks aren’t capable of overcoming the long odds you’ve placed upon them.[/quote]

Uh, where did I write any of what you just wrote here? What low opinion of blacks?

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
…and since the pic was posted…look at them arms!!!

Hell yeah, motorcycle accident recovery and progress made.

After 36 pages, maybe some here should spend more time in the gym too.[/quote]

Looking swooooolle, Brotha!!

Hahahaha!!!
[/quote]

Thanks. I am just glad my shoulders are finally back to the level they were before.

I will definitely try to spend more time in the gym than in this thread. LOL

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

The end result of pimping is ownership of someone else. [/quote]

If you say so.

I have personally seen that this relationship involves people from dysfunctional backgrounds…so the “ho” is often looking for a father figure and the “status” that comes from associating with that person. The “pimp” also gets status based on how his girls looks and acts and acts as protection and basically “manager” for the “ho”.

If you only see “slave” in that, I don’t know what to tell you.

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But seriously though.
After nearly a decade and a half of dedicated training you managed to drop 3 inches off your waist while gaining 10 pounds.
That has to mean a 10+ pound loss of fat to equal 3 inches right?
That would mean something like a 20+ pound muscle gain?
That’s incredible progress for a natty, some might even say unbelievable.
How do you do it after all these years?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

The end result of pimping is ownership of someone else. [/quote]

If you say so.

I have personally seen that this relationship involves people from dysfunctional backgrounds…so the “ho” is often looking for a father figure and the “status” that comes from associating with that person. The “pimp” also gets status based on how his girls looks and acts and acts as protection and basically “manager” for the “ho”.

If you only see “slave” in that, I don’t know what to tell you.[/quote]
LOLOLOL
Same old classic X.
“If you only see slave in that…” Which is what no one said, ever.
It is still a form of slavery.
You see this, DB see’s this, anyone with half a brain can see that’s.
Playing the dumb card is worse than playing the race card.
Just keep chalking everything up to “culture” and “genetics” that way you never have to show actual proof to back up your points.
Just a tip.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

The end result of pimping is ownership of someone else. [/quote]

If you say so.

I have personally seen that this relationship involves people from dysfunctional backgrounds…so the “ho” is often looking for a father figure and the “status” that comes from associating with that person. The “pimp” also gets status based on how his girls looks and acts and acts as protection and basically “manager” for the “ho”.

If you only see “slave” in that, I don’t know what to tell you.[/quote]

Unreal.