[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
to be fair injuries are a massive setback, i don’t know if X is being whiney about it but i’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
[/quote]
Nothing to be whiny about.
It took me nearly 3 years to recover from back injuries, a broken wrist and broken fingers, a broken orbital bone and a fractured shoulder.
It held me back from getting as big as I used to be until recently. From what I hear at the gym I am back to about where I was before the accident but bigger and much leaner.[/quote]
Blacks commit more crime than whites based on population percentage…fact.[/quote]
How can you say this?
You don’t know who is doing all crime to say who is doing most of it…and if profiling leads to arresting more blacks, why ignore that influence?
BLACKS COLORS do not commit more crime than WHITE COLORS. These are socio-economic issues you are trying to look at through a colored lens.[/quote]
Completely agreed.
Poorer people commit more crime than less-poor people. In some areas, those people are white. In others, latino. In others, black.
I grew up seeing this correlation between race and crime, and made the connection a lot of people have… that race has something to do with it.
But when I moved in high school to a city that was over 90% White (probably closer to 98%), it became a lot more obvious that race had nothing to do with it. Poverty and crime were associated, race had nothing to do with it.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, it’s like saying that all Asian people are smart, when in reality it’s basically just “smart people are smart”. And it just so happens that the smart Asians are more likely to come to the US than the dumb ones. But it has absolutely nothing to do with race.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
White pimp, David Tabor.
[quote]Meet David Wayne (of course) Tabor. The 52-year-old was arrested at Longview’s optimistically-named Palace Inn motel as part of a street sweep of prostitutes in that city that also netted the arrests of seven women and a one other man.
Tabor was not picked up as a john. Apparently, one or more of the women was under the spell of this frazzled-and-addled ogre’s mackin’, because he was charged with promoting prostitution. [/quote]
WHY IS THIS TOLERATED BY WHITE PEOPLE!!![/quote]
You do realize he is arrested. That is the definition of intolerance.[/quote]
But…many Black pimps get arrested too.
How does this show that whites didn’t tolerate it as a whole racial group?
It was said that BLACKS TOLERATE PIMPS AND HOS…as if white people do not.
That questions first, how he knows what all black people tolerate…and two, how he knows that white people do not tolerate it on a grand racial scale?
Were there surveys sent out that I missed?[/quote]
Well, I’m sure not every black person tolerates pimps and hoes. But, it does seem there is a large movement within the black community who actively promote pimps and hoes, pretty much un-protested. When the movement is protested, especially by black persons the person is a “sell out.”
I’m sure there are white people who tolerated it, I know people who listen to music that promotes it. But, in general white culture does not promote it, if anything we tolerate it too much especially with allowing white youth to listening to music that actively promotes it. Though you could point out the level of concubinage and porn use and abortion in white American and make a claim that though we don’t actively tolerate and promote street prostitution, we do tolerate prostitution to a degree that I find unacceptable.
So again, how is it people are saying whites are at greater risk pf physical harm in some areas due to race alone if there is no data supporting this and the data we do have shows that blacks are at greatest risk?[/quote]
I the bare bones basics of the situation boil down to a couple points:
A black man has something like a 10% more likely chance to be murdered than a white man, killer’s skin color irrelevant. This is wrong. This shouldn’t be like this. This is, however NOT a race dependent stat. This is a stat that reveals an economic aliment in our country.
The economic disparity certainly is greatly effected by the government’s intervention and oppression of the freedom of black people up until relatively recently, bullshit like mandatory sentencing, the war on drugs and “tough on street crime” political bullshit.
So this leads to the false narrative that “blacks more likely to be criminals”. That isn’t the case. Poor people are more likely to be criminals, skin color doesn’t make anyone a criminal minded person.
A lot of the instances where people talked about being safe or not safe in a neighborhood based on skin color, do ignore it typically isn’t safe to be any race in those neighborhoods. You can bet being Asian and walking down a an ABZ block isn’t going to prevent you from being see as a mark, even though a black or white person would stand out more “in the crowd”.
Poor people are at the most danger. And cities are more dangerous than rural areas, and black poor tend to live in cities.
Again, this is why stats suck to argue with a lot of the time, they can lead you to a false conclusion.
But anyway, this is a lot of typing to say “I agree with large portions of what you are saying”.
[quote]
I think it is “bad” enough to still need much work [/quote]
Sure, no doubt.
We have got to overcome this, and we won’t unless we work together.
Ideologically, I disagree with the premise of AA, because it forces people to judge based on skin color. Realistically, I understand the intentions of such social policy, and dont’ object to the idea of social policy looking to speed up the recovery of a culture that never should have been allowed to be oppressed by people born from the Enlightenment in the first place.
The problem is AA is set up to push people through the system, that is a recipe to ensure it implodes on itself. Sowell has gone into this in great length. AA needs to pull people through the system. (Im speaking in terms of work force, schools etc.) To explain what I mean would take a super long post, and I will if anyone wants.
Also, AA is only one piece of the pie.
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[quote]
I don’t think anyone but those extremely ill-equipped to do well in life at all are assuming that all white people’s lives are so much better.
I think it is simply being acknowledged that BECAUSE whites are the majority, issues like looking at black men and calling them thugs based on a style of clothing alone is tolerated.
In the 90’s, it was the sideways baseball cap…then the cross color jeans…then the baggy pants (mind you, baggy pants are now tolerated cross culturally)…then the sagging pants.[/quote]
Right. (I still wear baggy pants, and dont’ care if that makes me out of touch with current styles. Finding a tailor that will work with were I wear my pants and still cut a full break is a pain in the ass.)
Like I said before though, you live in the culture, and it takes time for culture to spread.
Tats took an awful long time, and in some ways still aren’t, before they didn’t automatically make someone a scumbag.
[quote]No offense, but to an outsider, it could appear that pretty much anything that defines young black men or is seen in mostly young black men alone gets a very negative label.
How do you see this “phenomenon”?[/quote]
I think people are afraid of change.
And I think as long as America stays a country of “groups” rather than American’s, we are going to have perceptions like the ones you do. (Not that your perception is wrong.) I don’t want to go into a back and forth about “well this new thing white kids do isn’t accepted either” type post, because that doesn’t address the problem. But I think you filter this through race, and maybe you are right to do so…
We (the population of the US) are broken down into groups by everything and everyone, and part of every statistic people can possibly come up with. Advertisers, politicians, college admissions, social policy, laws, every one is put into a group. It starts with the earliest levels of public education. Everything is aimed at keeping us part of little collectives, and nothing is aimed at making sure the collectives get along. This isn’t an accident.
That is a lot fo the reason I’m so drawn to conservatism (libertarian philosophy more than anything these days). It is every individual to the best of their ability. I’ve always seen people as individuals, and judged them by who they were. I feel like the phenomenon you are talking about is the product of group think. And group think is dangerous. Some of the blanket generalizations flat out celebrated in this thread about black people and white people are scary and sad.
How many white people died this month in Baltimore? How many died since Trayvon Martin? Do you fucking care about it too? What the fuck are you doing about it?
[/quote]
From what I could tell, one. Yes I care. Like I said in the other reply I do try to help, but it’s like having one arm tied behind my back.
I would actively try and change a culture that allows that to happen. Deflection from what real issue? That a semi white guy killed a black kid in self defense. I’m not going to argue about that with you.
Also how am I whinning?
Trayvons parents have every right to be furious. It’s their child. I don’t expect them to be logical about this at all. It’s everyone else flipping out. They need a reality check. Like, 100+ people have been killed in Baltimore this year. Most of them black and no one says a word. Not the President, not Congress, not the Ravens, etc…All of whihc openned their mouths about this case.
He should be in jail, the point is, no one said a fucking word when it happened. His neighbors didn’t freak out, the Baltimore Sun ran the story probably on page 15. To me this is MUCH worse. That little girl couldn’t defend herself, Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman trying to hurt him. Which is front page news and why?
That’s cute. I guess you know me better than I know myself.
Forgive me, I haven’t followed the thousands of posts in all 3 Trayvon Martin threads AND the profiling thread, but someone keeps making this point about arrests vs. actual crime of blacks.
From what I remember, the argument went something like this: since there is no reliable data on actual crime committed for whites and blacks, one can make a theory that whites commit the same amount of crime, it’s just that its a biased judicial system that is skewing the numbers towards more black arrests.
There’s one problem with that.
It’s a theory.
To accept this theory, you must be willing to accept alternate theories like:
Black commit three times more than previous suspected. This is due to simply being a more effective criminal. And committing crimes in areas where crime is less likely to be reported. How many drug dealers are going to report being robbed?
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Well, I’m sure not every black person tolerates pimps and hoes. But, it does seem there is a large movement within the black community who actively promote pimps and hoes, pretty much un-protested. When the movement is protested, especially by black persons the person is a “sell out.”[/quote]
Meanwhile I know this culture fairly well without getting into specifics and without actually doing it myself and there seems to be a HUGE cultural issue involved where this is simply how some people want to live.
I have seen it up close. It is NOTHING like some “slave” scenario like some here have written.
My personal view is that women who come from more negative backgrounds tend to follow this as a cultural trend…where it is seen as a good thing to have “your man” in the nicest outfits and the nicest car.
It would be flatly wrong to assume someone completely outside of this would ever have a view of it sufficient to allow such a basic description of something way more complex.
[quote]
I’m sure there are white people who tolerated it, I know people who listen to music that promotes it. But, in general white culture does not promote it, if anything we tolerate it too much especially with allowing white youth to listening to music that actively promotes it. Though you could point out the level of concubinage and porn use and abortion in white American and make a claim that though we don’t actively tolerate and promote street prostitution, we do tolerate prostitution to a degree that I find unacceptable.[/quote]
That is the point…we get it tossed at all of the entire black race if something negative happens.
I never see this happen to white people…EVER.
We get grouped together as one entity…and then chastised if we speak on it as if we can’t speak for everyone…when we are seen as ONE.
From what I remember, the argument went something like this: since there is no reliable data on actual crime committed for whites and blacks, one can make a theory that whites commit the same amount of crime, it’s just that its a biased judicial system that is skewing the numbers towards more black arrests. [/quote]
That wasn’t the argument.
The actual argument was that there are crimes not even looked at in this regard…LIKE THE FRAUD OF MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES…or nonviolent crimes.
Society creates its own criminals…especially when most are drug related crimes that don’t even have a true victim.
Seriously, who is the victim in a drug deal? Both sides get what they want.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That is the point…we get it tossed at all of the entire black race if something negative happens.
I never see this happen to white people…EVER.
We get grouped together as one entity…and then chastised if we speak on it as if we can’t speak for everyone…when we are seen as ONE.
Strange.[/quote]
I have to disagree. In this very thread people have insisted that white people are born with, “White privalege.” So every white person, whether born into a white trash family or the Gates family, all have this mysterious privalege because of the color of their skin.
Also, whenever a mass shooting happens or a serial killer is caught, he’s always white. I’ve heard that many many time. Maybe it’s true, I really don’t know, but it’s still a negative stigma associated with white people.
Also, all white people are racist, learned that in this very thread. We are the only group that is capable of enslaving other groups, learned that too.
Also we live in AmeriKKKa apparently, because all white people are racist, learned that too.
I agree with you that people shouldn’t be lumped into groups simply because of the color of their skin. It’s such a limited way of thinking.
Interesting. Where are these majority of places whites can’t go without being in danger?
[/quote]
I live in Northern NJ 15 minutes from Newark, Paterson and NYC so I’ll give you a few in my area:
Sections of Paterson , Newark, East Orange, and a lot of Camden. My friend works for a utility company and he has to cut people’s power off in sections of Irvington, East Orange and Newark when they don’t pay. He’s in the area a lot and gets racial slurs and threats thrown at him. It got bad enough to the point where they now need the help of the police to do their job.
I also worked a for a few months as cell tower auditor for T-Mobile and we had sites all over NYC. Instead of on towers, the cell sites are on top of the buildings. There were neighborhoods in the Bronx (near Webster and Jerome Ave), Brooklyn and upper part of Harlem (around 145 and St. Nick) where it wasn’t safe for whites after dark and even sometimes during the day. Both the cops and the thugs see a white guy in these neighborhoods and they immediately think you’re there for drugs. We would schedule audits for site in these areas no later than noon. The earlier, the better.
Obviously every housing project in the 4 boroughs (minus Manhattan) is off limits. Same goes for Paterson , Newark , Irvington, East Orange and Camden. There are other areas in NJ and NYC where whites can’t go, but I’m just listing the ones I’ve seen personally.
[/quote]
I lived in Newark, not the Ironbound, and I am white. I felt in no more or less danger than a black who lived there felt. Then again, since I lived there, they all probably assumed I was as broke as they were. [/quote]
Interesting.
It would seem perception is relevant.
It also seems that people from Houston agree with each other on the social situation but people from Newark see the world completely differently than the guy down the block.
JK[/quote]
It should be noted that here in CT, after the recent tropical storms, power company workers were attacked both physically and verbally by white people, in very nice towns, because it was believed they were taking too long to restore power. Anger is universal. [/quote]
Link?
I would think that at least the local news would have covered it?[/quote]
They did.
Fairfield police posted a message on its Facebook page on Monday that United Illuminating crews are being harassed in town:
�?�¢??Several UI crews have been forced to stop work and call for police assistance after being harassed and threatened. There are over 100 crews in town working to restore power at this time. Please allow UI crews to do their job and do not interfere so we can ensure full restoration as soon as possible.�?�¢??
As of 1 p.m., UI reported 2,359 Fairfield customers without power, about 11 percent of its total customer base.
Fairfield police said UI has been forced to hire police to protect the crews.
Last week, UI crews in Bridgeport required police protection after workers reported people were yelling at them. Some of the crews said their trucks were pelted by eggs. On Monday, Bridgeport had 1,089 customers without power, according to UI, about 1.92 percent, down from more than 40,000 outages last week.
This is not the first report of utility workers being harassed in Fairfield in the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy.
A 62-year-old Perry Street man was arrested last Tuesday after police said he threatened an AT&T worker with a shotgun.
That same day, police received a report of an elderly man harassing UI workers on Merwins Lane, but police didn�?�¢??t locate him.
Zecarlo, I went to school at SHU for 3 semesters and lived on the border of Fairfield and Bridgeport. In no way, shape, or form would I consider Fairfield or Bridgeport a “very nice town.”
Not to mention, the article you linked mentioned NOTHING about a white man or black man doing the attacking of local UI workers.
As a matter of fact, I was going to mention Bridgeport, CT as one of the cities where a white person might feel in danger at night. I certainly did.
Bridgeport, the big city of dreams.[/quote]
Man, i freaking love how all these arguments by people like DN, Hebrew and Zecarlo just get torn down before they even get off the ground. [/quote]
Then you’ll love this:
The median income for a household in the town is $83,512, and the median income for a family is $100,920 (these figures had risen to $103,352 and $121,749 respectively as of a 2007 estimate[9]). Males have a median income of $69,525 versus $44,837 for females. The per capita income for the city is $43,670. 2.9% of the population and 1.8% of families are below the poverty line. Out of the total population, 2.8% of those under the age of 18 and 3.6% of those 65 and older are living below the poverty line.
Fairfield is notable for, among other things, its very low crime rate. There have been only three murders in the last five years in town. Money Magazine’s 2006 Best Places to Live Survey ranks Fairfield as the second safest municipality in the United States.
Yeah, Fairfield sure sucks. BTW, I actually worked a checkpoint in Fairfield after the storm but hey, why take an eyewitness account of what the area is like when someone who supposedly knows the area, based on 3 semesters, can chime in and reveal they don’t know the difference between Fairfield and Bridgeport.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
…and since the pic was posted…look at them arms!!!
Hell yeah, motorcycle accident recovery and progress made.
After 36 pages, maybe some here should spend more time in the gym too.[/quote]
None of us can type as fast as you to be able to have time for the gym aswell…
Arms def. looking big as usual, nice recovery. There is more developed, leaner, and stronger posters here that I think you could learn a thing or two from if you were a bit more humble.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
…and since the pic was posted…look at them arms!!!
Hell yeah, motorcycle accident recovery and progress made.
After 36 pages, maybe some here should spend more time in the gym too.[/quote]
None of us can type as fast as you to be able to have time for the gym aswell…
Arms def. looking big as usual, nice recovery. There is more developed, leaner, and stronger posters here that I think you could learn a thing or two from if you were a bit more humble. [/quote]
Actually, the truth is, you should be able to learn something from just about anyone…including them learning something from me just like I am sure I can learn something from others.
…but we weren’t discussing anyone else here…just my really really big shoulders, chest and arms and my attempt at style by buying tank tops with more colors than grey and black.
Look at that…a blue tank top.
I am also sagging my pants by 1/4" just in case anyone was wondering so that makes me a “thug bodybuilding dentite”
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
to be fair injuries are a massive setback, i don’t know if X is being whiney about it but i’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
[/quote]
Nothing to be whiny about.
It took me nearly 3 years to recover from back injuries, a broken wrist and broken fingers, a broken orbital bone and a fractured shoulder.
It held me back from getting as big as I used to be until recently. From what I hear at the gym I am back to about where I was before the accident but bigger and much leaner.[/quote]
Interesting. Where are these majority of places whites can’t go without being in danger?
[/quote]
I live in Northern NJ 15 minutes from Newark, Paterson and NYC so I’ll give you a few in my area:
Sections of Paterson , Newark, East Orange, and a lot of Camden. My friend works for a utility company and he has to cut people’s power off in sections of Irvington, East Orange and Newark when they don’t pay. He’s in the area a lot and gets racial slurs and threats thrown at him. It got bad enough to the point where they now need the help of the police to do their job.
I also worked a for a few months as cell tower auditor for T-Mobile and we had sites all over NYC. Instead of on towers, the cell sites are on top of the buildings. There were neighborhoods in the Bronx (near Webster and Jerome Ave), Brooklyn and upper part of Harlem (around 145 and St. Nick) where it wasn’t safe for whites after dark and even sometimes during the day. Both the cops and the thugs see a white guy in these neighborhoods and they immediately think you’re there for drugs. We would schedule audits for site in these areas no later than noon. The earlier, the better.
Obviously every housing project in the 4 boroughs (minus Manhattan) is off limits. Same goes for Paterson , Newark , Irvington, East Orange and Camden. There are other areas in NJ and NYC where whites can’t go, but I’m just listing the ones I’ve seen personally.
[/quote]
I lived in Newark, not the Ironbound, and I am white. I felt in no more or less danger than a black who lived there felt. Then again, since I lived there, they all probably assumed I was as broke as they were. [/quote]
Interesting.
It would seem perception is relevant.
It also seems that people from Houston agree with each other on the social situation but people from Newark see the world completely differently than the guy down the block.
JK[/quote]
It should be noted that here in CT, after the recent tropical storms, power company workers were attacked both physically and verbally by white people, in very nice towns, because it was believed they were taking too long to restore power. Anger is universal. [/quote]
Link?
I would think that at least the local news would have covered it?[/quote]
They did.
Fairfield police posted a message on its Facebook page on Monday that United Illuminating crews are being harassed in town:
�??�?�¢??Several UI crews have been forced to stop work and call for police assistance after being harassed and threatened. There are over 100 crews in town working to restore power at this time. Please allow UI crews to do their job and do not interfere so we can ensure full restoration as soon as possible.�??�?�¢??
As of 1 p.m., UI reported 2,359 Fairfield customers without power, about 11 percent of its total customer base.
Fairfield police said UI has been forced to hire police to protect the crews.
Last week, UI crews in Bridgeport required police protection after workers reported people were yelling at them. Some of the crews said their trucks were pelted by eggs. On Monday, Bridgeport had 1,089 customers without power, according to UI, about 1.92 percent, down from more than 40,000 outages last week.
This is not the first report of utility workers being harassed in Fairfield in the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy.
A 62-year-old Perry Street man was arrested last Tuesday after police said he threatened an AT&T worker with a shotgun.
That same day, police received a report of an elderly man harassing UI workers on Merwins Lane, but police didn�??�?�¢??t locate him.
Zecarlo, I went to school at SHU for 3 semesters and lived on the border of Fairfield and Bridgeport. In no way, shape, or form would I consider Fairfield or Bridgeport a “very nice town.”
Not to mention, the article you linked mentioned NOTHING about a white man or black man doing the attacking of local UI workers.
As a matter of fact, I was going to mention Bridgeport, CT as one of the cities where a white person might feel in danger at night. I certainly did.
Bridgeport, the big city of dreams.[/quote]
Man, i freaking love how all these arguments by people like DN, Hebrew and Zecarlo just get torn down before they even get off the ground. [/quote]
Then you’ll love this:
The median income for a household in the town is $83,512, and the median income for a family is $100,920 (these figures had risen to $103,352 and $121,749 respectively as of a 2007 estimate[9]). Males have a median income of $69,525 versus $44,837 for females. The per capita income for the city is $43,670. 2.9% of the population and 1.8% of families are below the poverty line. Out of the total population, 2.8% of those under the age of 18 and 3.6% of those 65 and older are living below the poverty line.
Fairfield is notable for, among other things, its very low crime rate. There have been only three murders in the last five years in town. Money Magazine’s 2006 Best Places to Live Survey ranks Fairfield as the second safest municipality in the United States.
Yeah, Fairfield sure sucks. BTW, I actually worked a checkpoint in Fairfield after the storm but hey, why take an eyewitness account of what the area is like when someone who supposedly knows the area, based on 3 semesters, can chime in and reveal they don’t know the difference between Fairfield and Bridgeport. [/quote]
No, i was referring more to the fact that race wasnt mentioned anywhere in that article, yet you were specifically referencing white people when you originally posted it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
…and since the pic was posted…look at them arms!!!
Hell yeah, motorcycle accident recovery and progress made.
After 36 pages, maybe some here should spend more time in the gym too.[/quote]
None of us can type as fast as you to be able to have time for the gym aswell…
Arms def. looking big as usual, nice recovery. There is more developed, leaner, and stronger posters here that I think you could learn a thing or two from if you were a bit more humble. [/quote]
Actually, the truth is, you should be able to learn something from just about anyone…including them learning something from me just like I am sure I can learn something from others.
…but we weren’t discussing anyone else here…just my really really big shoulders, chest and arms and my attempt at style by buying tank tops with more colors than grey and black.
Look at that…a blue tank top.
I am also sagging my pants by 1/4" just in case anyone was wondering so that makes me a “thug bodybuilding dentite”[/quote]
No it makes you a tool for needing to specifically point it out.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
…and since the pic was posted…look at them arms!!!
Hell yeah, motorcycle accident recovery and progress made.
After 36 pages, maybe some here should spend more time in the gym too.[/quote]
None of us can type as fast as you to be able to have time for the gym aswell…
Arms def. looking big as usual, nice recovery. There is more developed, leaner, and stronger posters here that I think you could learn a thing or two from if you were a bit more humble. [/quote]
Actually, the truth is, you should be able to learn something from just about anyone…including them learning something from me just like I am sure I can learn something from others.
…but we weren’t discussing anyone else here…just my really really big shoulders, chest and arms and my attempt at style by buying tank tops with more colors than grey and black.
Look at that…a blue tank top.
I am also sagging my pants by 1/4" just in case anyone was wondering so that makes me a “thug bodybuilding dentite”[/quote]
Only a 1/4"? I think you’re ok, I wouldn’t call you a thug. I wouldn’t call you a bodybuilder either but that’s a whole new can of worms that’s been opened and re-opened many times before.
Otherwise, good post! Seriously.
Interesting. Where are these majority of places whites can’t go without being in danger?
[/quote]
I live in Northern NJ 15 minutes from Newark, Paterson and NYC so I’ll give you a few in my area:
Sections of Paterson , Newark, East Orange, and a lot of Camden. My friend works for a utility company and he has to cut people’s power off in sections of Irvington, East Orange and Newark when they don’t pay. He’s in the area a lot and gets racial slurs and threats thrown at him. It got bad enough to the point where they now need the help of the police to do their job.
I also worked a for a few months as cell tower auditor for T-Mobile and we had sites all over NYC. Instead of on towers, the cell sites are on top of the buildings. There were neighborhoods in the Bronx (near Webster and Jerome Ave), Brooklyn and upper part of Harlem (around 145 and St. Nick) where it wasn’t safe for whites after dark and even sometimes during the day. Both the cops and the thugs see a white guy in these neighborhoods and they immediately think you’re there for drugs. We would schedule audits for site in these areas no later than noon. The earlier, the better.
Obviously every housing project in the 4 boroughs (minus Manhattan) is off limits. Same goes for Paterson , Newark , Irvington, East Orange and Camden. There are other areas in NJ and NYC where whites can’t go, but I’m just listing the ones I’ve seen personally.
[/quote]
I lived in Newark, not the Ironbound, and I am white. I felt in no more or less danger than a black who lived there felt. Then again, since I lived there, they all probably assumed I was as broke as they were. [/quote]
Interesting.
It would seem perception is relevant.
It also seems that people from Houston agree with each other on the social situation but people from Newark see the world completely differently than the guy down the block.
JK[/quote]
It should be noted that here in CT, after the recent tropical storms, power company workers were attacked both physically and verbally by white people, in very nice towns, because it was believed they were taking too long to restore power. Anger is universal. [/quote]
Link?
I would think that at least the local news would have covered it?[/quote]
They did.
Fairfield police posted a message on its Facebook page on Monday that United Illuminating crews are being harassed in town:
�???�??�?�¢??Several UI crews have been forced to stop work and call for police assistance after being harassed and threatened. There are over 100 crews in town working to restore power at this time. Please allow UI crews to do their job and do not interfere so we can ensure full restoration as soon as possible.�???�??�?�¢??
As of 1 p.m., UI reported 2,359 Fairfield customers without power, about 11 percent of its total customer base.
Fairfield police said UI has been forced to hire police to protect the crews.
Last week, UI crews in Bridgeport required police protection after workers reported people were yelling at them. Some of the crews said their trucks were pelted by eggs. On Monday, Bridgeport had 1,089 customers without power, according to UI, about 1.92 percent, down from more than 40,000 outages last week.
This is not the first report of utility workers being harassed in Fairfield in the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy.
A 62-year-old Perry Street man was arrested last Tuesday after police said he threatened an AT&T worker with a shotgun.
That same day, police received a report of an elderly man harassing UI workers on Merwins Lane, but police didn�??�??�?�¢??t locate him.
Zecarlo, I went to school at SHU for 3 semesters and lived on the border of Fairfield and Bridgeport. In no way, shape, or form would I consider Fairfield or Bridgeport a “very nice town.”
Not to mention, the article you linked mentioned NOTHING about a white man or black man doing the attacking of local UI workers.
As a matter of fact, I was going to mention Bridgeport, CT as one of the cities where a white person might feel in danger at night. I certainly did.
Bridgeport, the big city of dreams.[/quote]
Man, i freaking love how all these arguments by people like DN, Hebrew and Zecarlo just get torn down before they even get off the ground. [/quote]
Then you’ll love this:
The median income for a household in the town is $83,512, and the median income for a family is $100,920 (these figures had risen to $103,352 and $121,749 respectively as of a 2007 estimate[9]). Males have a median income of $69,525 versus $44,837 for females. The per capita income for the city is $43,670. 2.9% of the population and 1.8% of families are below the poverty line. Out of the total population, 2.8% of those under the age of 18 and 3.6% of those 65 and older are living below the poverty line.
Fairfield is notable for, among other things, its very low crime rate. There have been only three murders in the last five years in town. Money Magazine’s 2006 Best Places to Live Survey ranks Fairfield as the second safest municipality in the United States.
Yeah, Fairfield sure sucks. BTW, I actually worked a checkpoint in Fairfield after the storm but hey, why take an eyewitness account of what the area is like when someone who supposedly knows the area, based on 3 semesters, can chime in and reveal they don’t know the difference between Fairfield and Bridgeport. [/quote]
No, i was referring more to the fact that race wasnt mentioned anywhere in that article, yet you were specifically referencing white people when you originally posted it.
Thanks for the info about Fairfield though?[/quote]
Look at the crime stats. You think there are many black people living there? I mean, according to this thread: Black = crime.