Trayvon Martin Pt. 3.. The Legacy Pt. 2

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Serious post regarding the “ethnic name”:
A good friend of mine worked as a teacher and now is in an administration role for inner city Los Angeles schools.
He was telling me just a few of the names of kids that he taught:
Money B Greene
Lemonjelllo & Orangejello (twins. I kid you not)
La-a (pronounced “ladasha”)

How in the hell do you expect to be taken seriously with names like that?
Seriously?[/quote]

sigh

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Serious post regarding the “ethnic name”:
A good friend of mine worked as a teacher and now is in an administration role for inner city Los Angeles schools.
He was telling me just a few of the names of kids that he taught:
Money B Greene
Lemonjelllo & Orangejello (twins. I kid you not)
La-a (pronounced “ladasha”)

How in the hell do you expect to be taken seriously with names like that?
Seriously?[/quote]

Lol.

But I’m so sure that MoxiecrimeFighter, Pilot Inspektor, MoonUnit, Apple, AudioScience, Blackjack, Speckwildhorse, Tu morrow (tomorrow), Pirate and Satchel will all be taken seriously.

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

I am pretty sure I acknowledged that a post or two down from that statement. Should have added that tagline that people with no sense of pride in themselves come in all colors.

I live in a state that has 47% of the population on food stamps. Two thirds of the black population, which comprises 37% of the total population is on food stamps. I mean that’s a problem. I don’t think that it is just white people trying to hold them down causing this. There are jobs everywhere. Shitty, hard working jobs but the pay is decent. Hell the offshore drilling field is supplied by a lot Mississippians and those guys are making good money and still hiring. I was talking to some people trying to fill positions at lumberyard that they couldn’t fill because of a lack of applicants.

I can respect that you see things differently than me regarding white privilege, however, even seeing things that way, I would think you would have to admit that at least part of the problem is the unwillingness of a significant portion of the black community to take on the challenge of doing better for themselves?[/quote]

I’m not sure what you mean by ‘‘part of the problem’’. I agree with you there are people who’d rather go for handouts than work in the black community. This is why I stated there are lazy people in either side. However, you can’t only focus on blacks based on what is going on in your town, while it is known that there’s a vast majority of people in the white community who are unwilling to get on their feet and look for jobs, and take advantage of the opportunities before them.[/quote]

I wasn’t just talking about my town, I was talking about my state, which shares very similar demographics to the other blackest states so I would assume the situation would be similar. And it is not the majority of the white community that is on food stamps here. 23% are on food stamps versus 66% of blacks. That would lead me to believe that it is a bigger issue for the black community, even though entitlement programs in general are and issue for us all when you expect half of the population to tow the line for the half of the state.

[quote]Myosin wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Serious post regarding the “ethnic name”:
A good friend of mine worked as a teacher and now is in an administration role for inner city Los Angeles schools.
He was telling me just a few of the names of kids that he taught:
Money B Greene
Lemonjelllo & Orangejello (twins. I kid you not)
La-a (pronounced “ladasha”)

How in the hell do you expect to be taken seriously with names like that?
Seriously?[/quote]

sigh[/quote]

You tell’ em.

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Black people cannot enslave another group of people. THAT’S POWER. Blakc people don’t make laws. Black people don’t make the governmental structure. They don’t own their our own police force. And they don’t control their own votes.
Black people can’t keep whites out of a job by the millions. That’s power. Black people can’t influence another group of people to the point where that group hates whites and thinks negatively of them. Black people can’t make weapons of mass destruction.
[/quote]

In a nation where black people are the majority, particularly African nations, all that happens or has happened. Does that mean it’s unique to White America or that power structures are universal?

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Over 100 people have been murdered in Baltimore since Trayvon Martin, why is this not national news? Why is Obama not tweeting about this? Where are Sharpton and Jackson? Where is Katty Perry or half the Baltimore Ravens for that matter?

[/quote]

Age Name
19 Dennis Conway
16 Diamond Williams
18 Moses Rush III
20 Montae Higgins
21 Ramon Rodriguez
24 Trey Powell

Six people under the age of 25 killed THIS MONTH in Baltimore, where is the national outrage?[/quote]

Oh wow, I’m so touched. Since you care so much black youth and, black on crime, what the fuck are you doing about it?

How many white kids/people have died in Amerikkka or Baltimore since Trayvon Martin? Let me know, I’d like to know what the white on white crime stats look like.
[/quote]

So it’s okay that the President doesn’t care about these 25 black kids killed this month then?

So it’s okay that Half of the Ravens, that tweeted about the TM "injustice, don’t care about these kids then?

So it’s okay that half of hollywood doesn’t care about these kids then?

What can I do DN? Honestly. I’m not allowed to try and affect black culture. I just don’t understand the, “fashion.” I’m not in a position to hire or fire so that’s out. I give 15+% to charity every year.

What are you doing to stop 25 black kids from being killed by other black people in Baltimore (or whereever your from?

Have you ever worked a Habitat for Humanity event in the inner city of Baltimore, while being white? Obviously you haven’t, let me tell you It’s real reqarding…

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Serious post regarding the “ethnic name”:
A good friend of mine worked as a teacher and now is in an administration role for inner city Los Angeles schools.
He was telling me just a few of the names of kids that he taught:
Money B Greene
Lemonjelllo & Orangejello (twins. I kid you not)
La-a (pronounced “ladasha”)

How in the hell do you expect to be taken seriously with names like that?
Seriously?[/quote]

Lol.

But I’m so sure that MoxiecrimeFighter, Pilot Inspektor, MoonUnit, Apple, AudioScience, Blackjack, Speckwildhorse, Tu morrow (tomorrow), Pirate and Satchel will all be taken seriously.
[/quote]

Those are really stupid names also. And just consider some of the people who did that to their poor children, not exactly the most in touch with reality bunch of individuals.

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Serious post regarding the “ethnic name”:
A good friend of mine worked as a teacher and now is in an administration role for inner city Los Angeles schools.
He was telling me just a few of the names of kids that he taught:
Money B Greene
Lemonjelllo & Orangejello (twins. I kid you not)
La-a (pronounced “ladasha”)

How in the hell do you expect to be taken seriously with names like that?
Seriously?[/quote]

Lol.

But I’m so sure that MoxiecrimeFighter, Pilot Inspektor, MoonUnit, Apple, AudioScience, Blackjack, Speckwildhorse, Tu morrow (tomorrow), Pirate and Satchel will all be taken seriously.
[/quote]

Those are really stupid names also. And just consider some of the people who did that to their poor children, not exactly the most in touch with reality bunch of individuals.[/quote]

My name is Carlos Danger, does that mean my parents were out of touch with reality?

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Myosin wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Serious post regarding the “ethnic name”:
A good friend of mine worked as a teacher and now is in an administration role for inner city Los Angeles schools.
He was telling me just a few of the names of kids that he taught:
Money B Greene
Lemonjelllo & Orangejello (twins. I kid you not)
La-a (pronounced “ladasha”)

How in the hell do you expect to be taken seriously with names like that?
Seriously?[/quote]

sigh[/quote]

You tell’ em.
[/quote]

Congrats Myosin, you have a cheerleader with a penis.

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Serious post regarding the “ethnic name”:
A good friend of mine worked as a teacher and now is in an administration role for inner city Los Angeles schools.
He was telling me just a few of the names of kids that he taught:
Money B Greene
Lemonjelllo & Orangejello (twins. I kid you not)
La-a (pronounced “ladasha”)

How in the hell do you expect to be taken seriously with names like that?
Seriously?[/quote]

During the Civil Rights era the Nation of Islam advocated not giving your child a white name, something like John Jones, because whites stripped them from their homeland and of their culture. Particularly changing their surname since a slave had to take his master’s surname. I can’t say that’s the sole reason, people can name their kid whatever they want, but I think it’s somewhat of a cultural push to separate themselves from whites.

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Serious post regarding the “ethnic name”:
A good friend of mine worked as a teacher and now is in an administration role for inner city Los Angeles schools.
He was telling me just a few of the names of kids that he taught:
Money B Greene
Lemonjelllo & Orangejello (twins. I kid you not)
La-a (pronounced “ladasha”)

How in the hell do you expect to be taken seriously with names like that?
Seriously?[/quote]

Lol.

But I’m so sure that MoxiecrimeFighter, Pilot Inspektor, MoonUnit, Apple, AudioScience, Blackjack, Speckwildhorse, Tu morrow (tomorrow), Pirate and Satchel will all be taken seriously.
[/quote]

Those are really stupid names also. And just consider some of the people who did that to their poor children, not exactly the most in touch with reality bunch of individuals.[/quote]

My name is Carlos Danger, does that mean my parents were out of touch with reality?[/quote]

Look at the people who’s children those names belong to and tell me that if you were looking at that group and I said, those people probably don’t have a good grasp on the reality of normal peoples lives, that you wouldn’t agree with me.

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
Fuck GZ he will get his one day no protective custody outside the walls…[/quote]
Aw hell yea I love me some vigilante justice. Are you pretty cool with murdering someone after they were pronounced innocent by the justice system? I figure after we knock off Zimmer we can ice OJ Simpson. Or is that different?

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
Fuck GZ he will get his one day no protective custody outside the walls…[/quote]
Aw hell yea I love me some vigilante justice. Are you pretty cool with murdering someone after they were pronounced innocent by the justice system? I figure after we knock off Zimmer we can ice OJ Simpson. Or is that different?[/quote]

Exactly.

Fucking animals that lack brain cells.

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
Fuck GZ he will get his one day no protective custody outside the walls…[/quote]
Aw hell yea I love me some vigilante justice. Are you pretty cool with murdering someone after they were pronounced innocent by the justice system? I figure after we knock off Zimmer we can ice OJ Simpson. Or is that different?[/quote]

Exactly.

Fucking animals that lack brain cells.[/quote]

The sounds of a senseless mob.

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Interesting. Where are these majority of places whites can’t go without being in danger?

[/quote]

I live in Northern NJ 15 minutes from Newark, Paterson and NYC so I’ll give you a few in my area:

Sections of Paterson , Newark, East Orange, and a lot of Camden. My friend works for a utility company and he has to cut people’s power off in sections of Irvington, East Orange and Newark when they don’t pay. He’s in the area a lot and gets racial slurs and threats thrown at him. It got bad enough to the point where they now need the help of the police to do their job.

I also worked a for a few months as cell tower auditor for T-Mobile and we had sites all over NYC. Instead of on towers, the cell sites are on top of the buildings. There were neighborhoods in the Bronx (near Webster and Jerome Ave), Brooklyn and upper part of Harlem (around 145 and St. Nick) where it wasn’t safe for whites after dark and even sometimes during the day. Both the cops and the thugs see a white guy in these neighborhoods and they immediately think you’re there for drugs. We would schedule audits for site in these areas no later than noon. The earlier, the better.

Obviously every housing project in the 4 boroughs (minus Manhattan) is off limits. Same goes for Paterson , Newark , Irvington, East Orange and Camden. There are other areas in NJ and NYC where whites can’t go, but I’m just listing the ones I’ve seen personally.
[/quote]
I lived in Newark, not the Ironbound, and I am white. I felt in no more or less danger than a black who lived there felt. Then again, since I lived there, they all probably assumed I was as broke as they were. [/quote]

Interesting.

It would seem perception is relevant.

It also seems that people from Houston agree with each other on the social situation but people from Newark see the world completely differently than the guy down the block.

JK[/quote]
It should be noted that here in CT, after the recent tropical storms, power company workers were attacked both physically and verbally by white people, in very nice towns, because it was believed they were taking too long to restore power. Anger is universal. [/quote]

Link?

I would think that at least the local news would have covered it?[/quote]
They did.

Fairfield police posted a message on its Facebook page on Monday that United Illuminating crews are being harassed in town:

â??Several UI crews have been forced to stop work and call for police assistance after being harassed and threatened. There are over 100 crews in town working to restore power at this time. Please allow UI crews to do their job and do not interfere so we can ensure full restoration as soon as possible.â??

As of 1 p.m., UI reported 2,359 Fairfield customers without power, about 11 percent of its total customer base.

Fairfield police said UI has been forced to hire police to protect the crews.

Last week, UI crews in Bridgeport required police protection after workers reported people were yelling at them. Some of the crews said their trucks were pelted by eggs. On Monday, Bridgeport had 1,089 customers without power, according to UI, about 1.92 percent, down from more than 40,000 outages last week.

This is not the first report of utility workers being harassed in Fairfield in the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy.

A 62-year-old Perry Street man was arrested last Tuesday after police said he threatened an AT&T worker with a shotgun.

That same day, police received a report of an elderly man harassing UI workers on Merwins Lane, but police didnâ??t locate him.

http://blog.ctnews.com/sandy/2012/11/05/fairfield-cops-ui-workers-being-harassed/

You’re welcome. [/quote]

LOfuckingL.

Zecarlo, I went to school at SHU for 3 semesters and lived on the border of Fairfield and Bridgeport. In no way, shape, or form would I consider Fairfield or Bridgeport a “very nice town.”

Not to mention, the article you linked mentioned NOTHING about a white man or black man doing the attacking of local UI workers.

As a matter of fact, I was going to mention Bridgeport, CT as one of the cities where a white person might feel in danger at night. I certainly did.

Bridgeport, the big city of dreams.

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Serious post regarding the “ethnic name”:
A good friend of mine worked as a teacher and now is in an administration role for inner city Los Angeles schools.
He was telling me just a few of the names of kids that he taught:
Money B Greene
Lemonjelllo & Orangejello (twins. I kid you not)
La-a (pronounced “ladasha”)

How in the hell do you expect to be taken seriously with names like that?
Seriously?[/quote]

Lol.

But I’m so sure that MoxiecrimeFighter, Pilot Inspektor, MoonUnit, Apple, AudioScience, Blackjack, Speckwildhorse, Tu morrow (tomorrow), Pirate and Satchel will all be taken seriously.
[/quote]

Those are really stupid names also. And just consider some of the people who did that to their poor children, not exactly the most in touch with reality bunch of individuals.[/quote]

My name is Carlos Danger, does that mean my parents were out of touch with reality?[/quote]

Look at the people who’s children those names belong to and tell me that if you were looking at that group and I said, those people probably don’t have a good grasp on the reality of normal peoples lives, that you wouldn’t agree with me. [/quote]

LOL i was kidding, google Carlos Danger…

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
Fuck GZ he will get his one day no protective custody outside the walls…[/quote]
Aw hell yea I love me some vigilante justice. Are you pretty cool with murdering someone after they were pronounced innocent by the justice system? I figure after we knock off Zimmer we can ice OJ Simpson. Or is that different?[/quote]

Exactly.

Fucking animals that lack brain cells.[/quote]

They will rationalize this the same way they rationalized rioting, looting, and targeting white-looking people after the verdict was announced.

That was justice…

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Interesting. Where are these majority of places whites can’t go without being in danger?

[/quote]

I live in Northern NJ 15 minutes from Newark, Paterson and NYC so I’ll give you a few in my area:

Sections of Paterson , Newark, East Orange, and a lot of Camden. My friend works for a utility company and he has to cut people’s power off in sections of Irvington, East Orange and Newark when they don’t pay. He’s in the area a lot and gets racial slurs and threats thrown at him. It got bad enough to the point where they now need the help of the police to do their job.

I also worked a for a few months as cell tower auditor for T-Mobile and we had sites all over NYC. Instead of on towers, the cell sites are on top of the buildings. There were neighborhoods in the Bronx (near Webster and Jerome Ave), Brooklyn and upper part of Harlem (around 145 and St. Nick) where it wasn’t safe for whites after dark and even sometimes during the day. Both the cops and the thugs see a white guy in these neighborhoods and they immediately think you’re there for drugs. We would schedule audits for site in these areas no later than noon. The earlier, the better.

Obviously every housing project in the 4 boroughs (minus Manhattan) is off limits. Same goes for Paterson , Newark , Irvington, East Orange and Camden. There are other areas in NJ and NYC where whites can’t go, but I’m just listing the ones I’ve seen personally.
[/quote]
I lived in Newark, not the Ironbound, and I am white. I felt in no more or less danger than a black who lived there felt. Then again, since I lived there, they all probably assumed I was as broke as they were. [/quote]

Interesting.

It would seem perception is relevant.

It also seems that people from Houston agree with each other on the social situation but people from Newark see the world completely differently than the guy down the block.

JK[/quote]
It should be noted that here in CT, after the recent tropical storms, power company workers were attacked both physically and verbally by white people, in very nice towns, because it was believed they were taking too long to restore power. Anger is universal. [/quote]

Link?

I would think that at least the local news would have covered it?[/quote]
They did.

Fairfield police posted a message on its Facebook page on Monday that United Illuminating crews are being harassed in town:

�¢??Several UI crews have been forced to stop work and call for police assistance after being harassed and threatened. There are over 100 crews in town working to restore power at this time. Please allow UI crews to do their job and do not interfere so we can ensure full restoration as soon as possible.�¢??

As of 1 p.m., UI reported 2,359 Fairfield customers without power, about 11 percent of its total customer base.

Fairfield police said UI has been forced to hire police to protect the crews.

Last week, UI crews in Bridgeport required police protection after workers reported people were yelling at them. Some of the crews said their trucks were pelted by eggs. On Monday, Bridgeport had 1,089 customers without power, according to UI, about 1.92 percent, down from more than 40,000 outages last week.

This is not the first report of utility workers being harassed in Fairfield in the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy.

A 62-year-old Perry Street man was arrested last Tuesday after police said he threatened an AT&T worker with a shotgun.

That same day, police received a report of an elderly man harassing UI workers on Merwins Lane, but police didn�¢??t locate him.

http://blog.ctnews.com/sandy/2012/11/05/fairfield-cops-ui-workers-being-harassed/

You’re welcome. [/quote]

LOfuckingL.

Zecarlo, I went to school at SHU for 3 semesters and lived on the border of Fairfield and Bridgeport. In no way, shape, or form would I consider Fairfield or Bridgeport a “very nice town.”

Not to mention, the article you linked mentioned NOTHING about a white man or black man doing the attacking of local UI workers.

As a matter of fact, I was going to mention Bridgeport, CT as one of the cities where a white person might feel in danger at night. I certainly did.

Bridgeport, the big city of dreams.[/quote]

Man, i freaking love how all these arguments by people like DN, Hebrew and Zecarlo just get torn down before they even get off the ground.

Speaking of names, if this would have first been reported locally as “Jorge Mesa” claims self defense in shooting of Trayvon Martin, would it really have become a huge national story? Would it really have been grown into a movement?

Here’s my reasoning behind asking this hypothetical. In the earliest accounts it’s an supposedly a white guy kills black controversy. George Zimmerman. Gets the national inertia going before people are familiar with Zimmerman, his face, and heritage. His father being white, and his mother the Peruvian immigrant. Only later did “white,” when it became difficult to maintain as people began to recognize photos, become “white-Hispanic.” Instead of multi-racial Hispanic…His mother having, I don’t know, some mestizo/Afro-Peruvian heritage. Probably not exact, but these terms seem to change depending on who you are and where you are.

But, as a hypothetical, had his father been the Peruvian immigrant, and his mother white, he could’ve realistically been Jorge Mesa. In fact, that is his uncle’s name (mother’s side).

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

Lol
Hence why I asked you, ‘how many like him out there’? How many black men like him out of, say a million?[/quote]

Don’t know, I don’t know a million people. I don’t know which “out there” you mean… I’m not about to start making generalizations about the entirety of the population of America based on a small section of a small state in the North East.

[quote]
Are you saying ‘‘no’’, to a black woman being considered first over a white woman, if grades were the single most important factor? [/quote]

I’m saying: If grades were the single more important factor, which they likely never will be for an upper level position, no, the black woman will not be over looked if her grades are higher, particularly if they are Ivy League.

[quote]

Lol. wow. Just like you doubt there’s a ‘‘white privilege’’ either.[/quote]

Long blog posts with sweeping generalizations & assumptions based purely on skin color sure are authoritative.

Black American’s are struggling to get jobs in this economy period. Shit, the U6 is up over 10% I believe still, but Blacks have been hit especially hard.

No, and thank god you don’t speak for all the millions of black folks out there.

Can you link to somewhere talking about this. You’ve made up some things throughout this thread, so please substantiate it.

And, as an aside I wish I could forward you an email chain I was CC’ed on this morning.

Where did I say racism didn’t exist?

No one has been able to do that for quite some time now.

This is so utterly false it isn’t even funny. I have a black governor, lol. Local, state and national level politicians who happen to be black certainly exist.

No one owns their own police force.

Do blacks in America get a newsletter prior to every election telling them who to vote for?

lol.

The only thing I’m denying is that America operates like the 1950’s, 1890’s or 1730’s world you pretend it does in this thread.

Dat Ad Hom…

How convenient that some critical theory neo-Frankfurt bullshit construct is “super doubly applicable” because it is “unconscious”.

I’ve been illegally searched for walking down the street, and pulled over. On my ride home last night in fact I saw someone get pulled over that was light skinned. Can’t say for 100% certainty if they were white or not…

lol, I’ve been watched in a store. I just don’t give two shits.

Where? Or is this like the magic school that doesn’t except black that Hebrewhero created out of thin air?

Nope, never been beaten by a cop.

It has nothing to do with his skin color. Why you can’t even entertain that the man has shitty progressive ideas, and conservatives don’t like them, is beyond me.

Clinton oversaw a completely different economic climate. The inability to line eachother’s pockets off the back of the American tax payer is in large part why there is significant grid lock.

Also, Bush 43’s complete and utter failure to be anything remotely close to a conservative has caused consequences, one of which is a stauncher conservative base that is going to naturally butt heads with Obama due to his progressive rhetoric. (His actually policy is a mix of progressive and neo-moderate.)