[quote]sufiandy wrote:
So what other factors should be used to determine if someone is a thug?[/quote]
LOl at this.
Criminal activity should be the judge.
I am not sure why that needed an explanation.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
You are making it seem like the south holds all the bigots. I have not seen any of this you talk about and I regularly visit Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama.[/quote]
WTF?
I know black people who won’t even drive through those parts of the country and you haven’t seen any?
I don’t agree that the South holds all the bigots, but let’s get serious here. I live down here and have driven through those areas too many times to count in my life. It’s there…IF YOU ARE THE PERSON THEY ARE THROWING IT AT.
It has gotten better…but mostly because you can’t drag black men down the road behind your truck without it becoming news anymore.[/quote]
And you do not think this happens with white people in parts of the inner cities? As a social experiment I nominate any white person here to walk through Overtown in Miami after midnight.
The problem with your arguments and opinions is that they are so far off base and grounded in the fact that your opinion and percieved reality is the one true reality. [/quote]
It also ignores the fact that there are more places in the south that whites can’t safely go than the other way around.[/quote]
The darker the spot the higher the percentage of the population that is black.
Obviously things aren’t to bad for blacks in the deep south (that giant dark purple are is Mississippi), either that or they are just gluttons for punishment.[/quote]
Black mayors, city counsels, sheriffs, est are the norm in lots of places.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
You are making it seem like the south holds all the bigots. I have not seen any of this you talk about and I regularly visit Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama.[/quote]
WTF?
I know black people who won’t even drive through those parts of the country and you haven’t seen any?
I don’t agree that the South holds all the bigots, but let’s get serious here. I live down here and have driven through those areas too many times to count in my life. It’s there…IF YOU ARE THE PERSON THEY ARE THROWING IT AT.
It has gotten better…but mostly because you can’t drag black men down the road behind your truck without it becoming news anymore.[/quote]
And you do not think this happens with white people in parts of the inner cities? As a social experiment I nominate any white person here to walk through Overtown in Miami after midnight.
The problem with your arguments and opinions is that they are so far off base and grounded in the fact that your opinion and percieved reality is the one true reality. [/quote]
It also ignores the fact that there are more places in the south that whites can’t safely go than the other way around.[/quote]
The darker the spot the higher the percentage of the population that is black.
Obviously things aren’t to bad for blacks in the deep south (that giant dark purple are is Mississippi), either that or they are just gluttons for punishment.[/quote]
Yep, I have lived in MS for 17 years. Hunted and fished near the entirety of it through just about every small town. Never had an issue as I treat everyone with respect regardless of skin color. Seen a few inappropriate signs or comments from both races, but never any violence just because someone was a certain skin color.
Oh and I regularly hunt and fish with my college roommate, who happens to be black.
I do enjoy the usual 5 on 1 attack mode this site goes into.
It seems most here simply will not let a discussion take place between me and another poster.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
You are making it seem like the south holds all the bigots. I have not seen any of this you talk about and I regularly visit Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama.[/quote]
WTF?
I know black people who won’t even drive through those parts of the country and you haven’t seen any?
I don’t agree that the South holds all the bigots, but let’s get serious here. I live down here and have driven through those areas too many times to count in my life. It’s there…IF YOU ARE THE PERSON THEY ARE THROWING IT AT.
It has gotten better…but mostly because you can’t drag black men down the road behind your truck without it becoming news anymore.[/quote]
And you do not think this happens with white people in parts of the inner cities? As a social experiment I nominate any white person here to walk through Overtown in Miami after midnight.
The problem with your arguments and opinions is that they are so far off base and grounded in the fact that your opinion and percieved reality is the one true reality. [/quote]
It also ignores the fact that there are more places in the south that whites can’t safely go than the other way around.[/quote]
The darker the spot the higher the percentage of the population that is black.
Obviously things aren’t to bad for blacks in the deep south (that giant dark purple are is Mississippi), either that or they are just gluttons for punishment.[/quote]
Yep, I have lived in MS for 17 years. Hunted and fished near the entirety of it through just about every small town. Never had an issue as I treat everyone with respect regardless of skin color. Seen a few inappropriate signs or comments from both races, but never any violence just because someone was a certain skin color.[/quote]
But X drove through a place like that once and didnâ??t feel safe. That trumps your living there 17 years.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
You are making it seem like the south holds all the bigots. I have not seen any of this you talk about and I regularly visit Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama.[/quote]
WTF?
I know black people who won’t even drive through those parts of the country and you haven’t seen any?
I don’t agree that the South holds all the bigots, but let’s get serious here. I live down here and have driven through those areas too many times to count in my life. It’s there…IF YOU ARE THE PERSON THEY ARE THROWING IT AT.
It has gotten better…but mostly because you can’t drag black men down the road behind your truck without it becoming news anymore.[/quote]
I regularly visit small towns all throughout the south hunting and guess what? Most of them are very small in population and have black and white people. Everyone knows everyone and they were not tossing bottles at each other or fighting in the streets.
Some of the towns are mostly black too and I was treated friendly and went about my business. Now in certain parts of Memphis, I wouldn’t venture short of going in with a tank especially if you are white.[/quote]
Question…how would you be aware of the racism seen by black people when alone?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
So what other factors should be used to determine if someone is a thug?[/quote]
LOl at this.
Criminal activity should be the judge.
I am not sure why that needed an explanation.[/quote]
Crime usually implies there is some type of victim. So are you saying its better to be a victim than someone who is potentially racist by being aware of their surroundings?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Also, even if there are the existence of places that black people cant go without being in danger because their race makes them a target, they are extremely small in comparison to the places that white people cant go because their race literally puts a target on their back. If you do not acknowledge that, then you are either being purposely blind or are extremely sheltered.[/quote]
Interesting. Where are these majority of places whites can’t go without being in danger?
[/quote]
Inner city Houston for one. Went to a training school in Houston where they literally had a deputy (a black man) come in and tell us the areas that we needed to avoid because of our skin color. The aforementioned area of Baton Rouge could be another. Pick an inner city, Chicago, St. Louis, Memphis, Atlanta, Miami, Los Angeles, Baltimore, do I need to keep going?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I do enjoy the usual 5 on 1 attack mode this site goes into.
It seems most here simply will not let a discussion take place between me and another poster.
[/quote]
there is a reason why just about everythign you debate or discuss gets argued by the popular majority and you know why so stop with the nonsense victim mentality and grow a pair.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
many of the stereotypes are dead on[/quote]
WHAT!?!?!
hasnt your and others previous 76 pages of posts been refuting that?[/quote]
context counts
[/quote]
so you are honestly trying to argue that stereotypes about engineers are dead on, but other ones arent?
or was that a bad joke and i need to get my sense of humor tuned up?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
You are making it seem like the south holds all the bigots. I have not seen any of this you talk about and I regularly visit Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama.[/quote]
WTF?
I know black people who won’t even drive through those parts of the country and you haven’t seen any?
I don’t agree that the South holds all the bigots, but let’s get serious here. I live down here and have driven through those areas too many times to count in my life. It’s there…IF YOU ARE THE PERSON THEY ARE THROWING IT AT.
It has gotten better…but mostly because you can’t drag black men down the road behind your truck without it becoming news anymore.[/quote]
I regularly visit small towns all throughout the south hunting and guess what? Most of them are very small in population and have black and white people. Everyone knows everyone and they were not tossing bottles at each other or fighting in the streets.
Some of the towns are mostly black too and I was treated friendly and went about my business. Now in certain parts of Memphis, I wouldn’t venture short of going in with a tank especially if you are white.[/quote]
Question…how would you be aware of the racism seen by black people when alone?[/quote]
I should have mentioned I wasn’t alone in 70% or so of the trips. My college roommate who I played ball with regularly accompanies me. And he is black.
I am in no way trying to attack you Prof X. If you have experienced bad times or racism where you have been, that really fucking sucks. And I hope those pricks choke on their beer. I just have not seen it and neither has my friend.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Inner city Houston for one. [/quote]
Inner city Houston is majority business district. What are you talking about? White people can’t go into inner city Houston?
Since when?
[quote]
Went to a training school in Houston where they literally had a deputy (a black man) come in and tell us the areas that we needed to avoid because of our skin color. The aforementioned area of Baton Rouge could be another. Pick an inner city, Chicago, St. Louis, Memphis, Atlanta, Miami, Los Angeles, Baltimore, do I need to keep going?[/quote]
So because one guy told you something about places not to go based on your skin color (which sounds flat out racist to me in a business setting) you thought this is how Houston was?
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
You are making it seem like the south holds all the bigots. I have not seen any of this you talk about and I regularly visit Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama.[/quote]
WTF?
I know black people who won’t even drive through those parts of the country and you haven’t seen any?
I don’t agree that the South holds all the bigots, but let’s get serious here. I live down here and have driven through those areas too many times to count in my life. It’s there…IF YOU ARE THE PERSON THEY ARE THROWING IT AT.
It has gotten better…but mostly because you can’t drag black men down the road behind your truck without it becoming news anymore.[/quote]
I regularly visit small towns all throughout the south hunting and guess what? Most of them are very small in population and have black and white people. Everyone knows everyone and they were not tossing bottles at each other or fighting in the streets.
Some of the towns are mostly black too and I was treated friendly and went about my business. Now in certain parts of Memphis, I wouldn’t venture short of going in with a tank especially if you are white.[/quote]
Question…how would you be aware of the racism seen by black people when alone?[/quote]
I should have mentioned I wasn’t alone in 70% or so of the trips. My college roommate who I played ball with regularly accompanies me. And he is black.
[/quote]
Once again, how would you be aware of the racism seen by black people when alone?
Notice, I mean WHEN THEY ARE ALONE without a white guy with them.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
You are making it seem like the south holds all the bigots. I have not seen any of this you talk about and I regularly visit Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama.[/quote]
WTF?
I know black people who won’t even drive through those parts of the country and you haven’t seen any?
I don’t agree that the South holds all the bigots, but let’s get serious here. I live down here and have driven through those areas too many times to count in my life. It’s there…IF YOU ARE THE PERSON THEY ARE THROWING IT AT.
It has gotten better…but mostly because you can’t drag black men down the road behind your truck without it becoming news anymore.[/quote]
I regularly visit small towns all throughout the south hunting and guess what? Most of them are very small in population and have black and white people. Everyone knows everyone and they were not tossing bottles at each other or fighting in the streets.
Some of the towns are mostly black too and I was treated friendly and went about my business. Now in certain parts of Memphis, I wouldn’t venture short of going in with a tank especially if you are white.[/quote]
Question…how would you be aware of the racism seen by black people when alone?[/quote]
I have no doubt that on occasion black people are the victims of idiocy from a minority of whites that is looked down upon by the rest of us, however, the exact same thing can be said for whites sometimes when we find ourselves in the “wrong” places.
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
So what other factors should be used to determine if someone is a thug?[/quote]
LOl at this.
Criminal activity should be the judge.
I am not sure why that needed an explanation.[/quote]
Crime usually implies there is some type of victim. So are you saying its better to be a victim than someone who is potentially racist by being aware of their surroundings?[/quote]
?
You asked what determines if someone is a thug.
You were answered.
What you do based on bias outside of that is your business.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
You are making it seem like the south holds all the bigots. I have not seen any of this you talk about and I regularly visit Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama.[/quote]
WTF?
I know black people who won’t even drive through those parts of the country and you haven’t seen any?
I don’t agree that the South holds all the bigots, but let’s get serious here. I live down here and have driven through those areas too many times to count in my life. It’s there…IF YOU ARE THE PERSON THEY ARE THROWING IT AT.
It has gotten better…but mostly because you can’t drag black men down the road behind your truck without it becoming news anymore.[/quote]
I regularly visit small towns all throughout the south hunting and guess what? Most of them are very small in population and have black and white people. Everyone knows everyone and they were not tossing bottles at each other or fighting in the streets.
Some of the towns are mostly black too and I was treated friendly and went about my business. Now in certain parts of Memphis, I wouldn’t venture short of going in with a tank especially if you are white.[/quote]
Question…how would you be aware of the racism seen by black people when alone?[/quote]
I should have mentioned I wasn’t alone in 70% or so of the trips. My college roommate who I played ball with regularly accompanies me. And he is black.
[/quote]
Once again, how would you be aware of the racism seen by black people when alone?
Notice, I mean WHEN THEY ARE ALONE without a white guy with them.[/quote]
We are very close and he goes places alone. He has never mentioned anything, but I will ask him this evening.
And all the whites I associate with and know would definitely take the victim’s side in any racist acts. I know I would and would expect my friends too as well.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I have no doubt that on occasion black people are the victims of idiocy from a minority of whites that is looked down upon by the rest of us, however, the exact same thing can be said for whites sometimes when we find ourselves in the “wrong” places. [/quote]
I am still waiting on these majority of places that whites can’t go. To imply INNER CITY HOUSTON is one of these places has to be a huge joke.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Also, even if there are the existence of places that black people cant go without being in danger because their race makes them a target, they are extremely small in comparison to the places that white people cant go because their race literally puts a target on their back. If you do not acknowledge that, then you are either being purposely blind or are extremely sheltered.[/quote]
Interesting. Where are these majority of places whites can’t go without being in danger?
[/quote]
Inner city Houston for one. Went to a training school in Houston where they literally had a deputy (a black man) come in and tell us the areas that we needed to avoid because of our skin color. The aforementioned area of Baton Rouge could be another. Pick an inner city, Chicago, St. Louis, Memphis, Atlanta, Miami, Los Angeles, Baltimore, do I need to keep going?[/quote]
There are a couple of places in Houston, but it is not that bad. I have stopped in couple of those places to ask for directions. Was I aware of my surroundings yes, but never felt like I was in danger.
Newark, New Jersey is a different story.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
We are very close and he goes places alone. He has never mentioned anything, but I will ask him this evening.[/quote]
So…you were speaking for him and all black people without actually any knowledge of it?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Inner city Houston for one. [/quote]
Inner city Houston is majority business district. What are you talking about? White people can’t go into inner city Houston?
Since when?
[quote]
Went to a training school in Houston where they literally had a deputy (a black man) come in and tell us the areas that we needed to avoid because of our skin color. The aforementioned area of Baton Rouge could be another. Pick an inner city, Chicago, St. Louis, Memphis, Atlanta, Miami, Los Angeles, Baltimore, do I need to keep going?[/quote]
So because one guy told you something about places not to go based on your skin color (which sounds flat out racist to me in a business setting) you thought this is how Houston was?[/quote]
Fine, the ghetto of Houston, I do not know the layout of the city as I have only been there twice. So the black man that said we shouldn’t go there is a racist???