Trayvon Martin Pt. 2 'The Legacy'

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

in my entire life i have never met a single person that dresses like that that did not intend to be perceived as such. or they wanted to be seen as such for the specific reason of bitching that they were being profiled.[/quote]

Uh, I see people like that daily.

Why are you acting like your perception is all there is?

You really think every guy on the planet with his [pants sagging is trying to show that they have been in the criminal justice system???

WTF?[/quote]

i never mentioned the criminal justice system. you did. amazing!
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Gee, then what is your definition of THUG?

Isn’t that a person who commits or has committed a crime?[/quote]

nope, that is my definition of ex-con. amazing![/quote]

i also never stated that dressing like we wanted to be PERCEIVED as thugs. we were punks, yes, but never incarcerated. try again. [/quote]

also, dictionary.com disagrees with your definition of thug-
thug (�¸�?�¡)

â?? n

  1. a tough and violent man, esp a criminal
  2. ( sometimes capital ) (formerly) a member of an organization of robbers and assassins in India who typically strangled their victims

especially a criminal, not explicitly a criminal. amazing!

also, BONE disagrees with your definition of thugs. they define it as trues humbly united gathering souls.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

so you are now ignoring the definition of confront. amazing![/quote]

I don’t have to ignore it to show you that you can talk to people without it escalating the situation.[/quote]

go look at the definition. confront does not explicitly denote escalating anything. it means to be face-to-face. no implications of challenging or intentions of any kind.[/quote]

Uh, once again, why are you acting like asking them to move is a more unsafe option in all situations?

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I’ve been curious: If they appear to be “real thugs,” and you don’t want to call the cops, what would you do? Just wait? Is there a limit to how long you’d wait?
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This is nonsense.

These people were committing WHAT CRIME?

Loitering?

You ask them to freaking move.

That doesn’t require you calling the cops.

Why is it this is the NON option to most of you?

Do I need to tell you why?

Stop trying to attack me and think for once.

You respond the way you do because of FEAR.

I am not afraid of some guys in sagging pants. I see that shit every damn day. Half of the people who have been in my house dress like this.

WTF?

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

so you are now ignoring the definition of confront. amazing![/quote]

I don’t have to ignore it to show you that you can talk to people without it escalating the situation.[/quote]

go look at the definition. confront does not explicitly denote escalating anything. it means to be face-to-face. no implications of challenging or intentions of any kind.[/quote]

Uh, once again, why are you acting like asking them to move is a more unsafe option in all situations?

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i am not, i was simply stating they would KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE no matter what actions you chose to make.[/quote]

Gee, that is why MAKING ENEMIES if it can be avoided is the dumbest option.

[quote]Cortes wrote:

No, DN. So far as I know, State law doesn’t have anything at all to say about neighborhood watchmen. If it did, this would have been used against Zimmerman in the trial. It’s just more of your spouting off guttermouthed, emotionally emetic, racist claptrap, as usual.

In the simplest terms I can muster: It doesn’t MATTER because he was not acting as a POLICE OFFICER. He was acting as a citizen.

Again, if this is such an important point, why was it not used to crowbar a conviction out of this trial?

*edited[/quote]

Thank you for answering.

You have an issue with me being ‘‘emotive, foul mouthed, prejudiced yada yada…’’ yet you’re the one who addressed me first, has been insulting me here and there and displaying your superiority complex. Lol. Calm the fuck down, Cortes. This is only the internet. Stop taking everything to heart or you’ll have a fucking heart attack. For a man, who’s been living in Japan for decades, I would have expected to know what it feels like to be discriminated. But you seem to have an issue with me speaking about the unfairness of a white privileged justice system. Hahaha!!

You’ll deal with my fucking shit, motherfucker.

I already knew Zimfuck went on trial as a citizen. Not as watchman. I have no issue with that.

However, what I didn’t agree with you, was that his acquittal as a CITIZEN should not usurp the current/ future duties of his fellow watchmen, which are WATCH, OBSERVE, REPORT.

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

Evidently i am the only motherfucker that grew up in the 90s and dressed like that.

The thuggish persona is EXACTLY what we were going for. So yes, we dressed like thugs and wanted to be regarded as such so we would be motherfuckin g’s. we also acted like a bunch of punk thugs, as did every single other person i ever met that dressed like that.[/quote]

Uh, I dressed like that and made good grades and went to a school that was well known for having great students in it that entered the medical field.

Why do you think everyone in the world thinks like you?[/quote]

i had a 4.0 until my junior year of college. what is your point?[/quote]

I think your original post was over X’s head.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

in my entire life i have never met a single person that dresses like that that did not intend to be perceived as such. or they wanted to be seen as such for the specific reason of bitching that they were being profiled.[/quote]

Uh, I see people like that daily.

Why are you acting like your perception is all there is?

You really think every guy on the planet with his [pants sagging is trying to show that they have been in the criminal justice system???

WTF?[/quote]

Yes, and they dress like that because thats how they want to be perceived.

No one goes, hey its so much more convenient having to hold my pants up constantly! I like this! runs off the day job as public accountant

[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
so if you go to france and 9 out of 10 people that you meet smell like shit you conclude that french people smell like shit
(not hating the french i love your cheese and wimmenz and they actually don’t stink)

if 9 out of 10 people who dress like thugs act like thugs why should I go out and assume that every guy dressed like a thug is actually the 1/10

If you understand anything about probability you’d know where to place your bets

Unless Prof X you want to give me $30,000 to start my cutlery polishing business that goes around on the first monday of every month on the odd chance that it makes me millions and I repay you plus interest? because after all you don’t want to be judgemental[/quote]

Why didnt someone put it like this sooner?

sadly, this will still be ignored by some.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

so you are now ignoring the definition of confront. amazing![/quote]

I don’t have to ignore it to show you that you can talk to people without it escalating the situation.[/quote]

go look at the definition. confront does not explicitly denote escalating anything. it means to be face-to-face. no implications of challenging or intentions of any kind.[/quote]

Uh, once again, why are you acting like asking them to move is a more unsafe option in all situations?

[/quote]
I’ve been curious: If they appear to be “real thugs,” and you don’t want to call the cops, what would you do? Just wait? Is there a limit to how long you’d wait?
[/quote]

This is nonsense.

These people were committing WHAT CRIME?

Loitering?

You ask them to freaking move.

That doesn’t require you calling the cops.

Why is it this is the NON option to most of you?

Do I need to tell you why?

Stop trying to attack me and think for once.

You respond the way you do because of FEAR.

I am not afraid of some guys in sagging pants. I see that shit every damn day. Half of the people who have been in my house dress like this.

WTF?[/quote]

GEE

For the millionth time, trespassing is a crime.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

so you are now ignoring the definition of confront. amazing![/quote]

I don’t have to ignore it to show you that you can talk to people without it escalating the situation.[/quote]

go look at the definition. confront does not explicitly denote escalating anything. it means to be face-to-face. no implications of challenging or intentions of any kind.[/quote]

Uh, once again, why are you acting like asking them to move is a more unsafe option in all situations?

[/quote]

i am not, i was simply stating they would KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE no matter what actions you chose to make.[/quote]

Gee, that is why MAKING ENEMIES if it can be avoided is the dumbest option.[/quote]

GEE

For the millionth time, you have no way of knowing that confronting them in person, face-to-face, wont cause you to become their enemy.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

so you are now ignoring the definition of confront. amazing![/quote]

I don’t have to ignore it to show you that you can talk to people without it escalating the situation.[/quote]

go look at the definition. confront does not explicitly denote escalating anything. it means to be face-to-face. no implications of challenging or intentions of any kind.[/quote]

Uh, once again, why are you acting like asking them to move is a more unsafe option in all situations?

[/quote]
I’ve been curious: If they appear to be “real thugs,” and you don’t want to call the cops, what would you do? Just wait? Is there a limit to how long you’d wait?
[/quote]

This is nonsense.

These people were committing WHAT CRIME?

Loitering?

You ask them to freaking move.

That doesn’t require you calling the cops.

Why is it this is the NON option to most of you?

Do I need to tell you why?

Stop trying to attack me and think for once.

You respond the way you do because of FEAR.

I am not afraid of some guys in sagging pants. I see that shit every damn day. Half of the people who have been in my house dress like this.

WTF?[/quote]

we are thinking. and that is why we are disagreeing with you.

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

I believe that all but one of the women on the jury were Mothers. As such, there was reportedly a LOT of crying during parts of the trial. No one ever wants to even think about losing their sons or daughters. Still, they had to reach their verdict based on actual evidence, no matter how saddened they were by the whole ordeal.

S[/quote]

I’m sorry but those 6 women couldn’t look at Trayvon as their son because he was black. Those women couldn’t put themselves in Sybrina’Fulton shoes and feel her pain and sorrow. Their mind was already made up.

God damn, I had fucking faith when I learnt six women had been selected. I didn’t care about their race. I knew they’ll be behind Trayvon’s mother. Most of them were mothers after all. They never empathized, nor sympathised enough to convict the killer of manslaughter.

I remember reading in the last thread that there was no way that Zims would be convicted with a jury of white women. I didn’t want to believe that bullshit. They were mothers they would understand. I was so fucking wrong. Anderson Cooper’s interview with one of the jurors confirmed what I suspected after the verdict; Trayvon Martin was guilty from the very first day of trial. That woman only felt sorry for Zims.

Now some of you are saying, the jury freeing FatmanBitch had got nothing to do with six white cough five white woman who couldn’t relate to a black kid?

Meh, that doesn’t surprise me.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

WTF yourself.

Can you read?

I am referencing the earlier possibility discussed that they actually are dangerous people(which YOU referenced when you said, “And now they know where you live.”)

This is part of what was discussed earlier.

Now answer the damn question or don’t.

Your fucking choice.

Sheesh.[/quote]

I answered your question pages back.

I would ask them to move.

Problem solved.

Calling the cops when no real crime but LOITERING is being committed is the dumbest option if they are REAL THUGS because eventually, THE COPS GO THE FUCK HOME.

Jesus some of you keep this up as if you really can’t understand that the entire world doesn’t live on your secluded block.

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

Yes, and they dress like that because thats how they want to be perceived.[/quote]

Gee, they actually dress like that because it is a trend and most guys theior age from their background dress like that.

That means you are wrong here if that was too fast.

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No one goes, hey its so much more convenient having to hold my pants up constantly! I like this! runs off the day job as public accountant[/quote]

Most of the guys I know who do this aren’t holding their pants up. They just hold their pants around their waist low and most even wear a belt so it stays there.

Anyone else as shocked as i am that X completely ignored DB Coopers last post?

Shocked…

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

GEE

For the millionth time, you have no way of knowing that confronting them in person, face-to-face, wont cause you to become their enemy.[/quote]

Calling the cops most DEFINITELY WILL.

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Anyone else as shocked as i am that X completely ignored DB Coopers last post?

Shocked…[/quote]

LOL at “ignored”. There are ten of you only responding to argue with me personally.

Sorry if I won’t spend every second worrying about every single one of you.

Most of you are full of shit and have no real point.

If you wanted a real discussion, none of this mob mentality shit would be happening right now

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
I’m sorry but those 6 women couldn’t look at Trayvon as their son because he was black.
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Because they are racist. Because white people are racist.