[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Realizing this has become an amazingly sensitive topic (I’ve lost a lot of respect for various people I’m “friends” with on FB), I’m wondering how many people actually watched the entire trial and understand the amount of evidence that all seemed to support one side. If people are capable of ignoring for just a moment the media and race-baiters who seem to make a living out of sensationalizing this horrific event and inciting extreme emotions over a purely objective view of the law, you can go online and view full testimonies of :
- the first cops at the scene
- the lead detectives who oversaw various interviews personally as well as oversaw accumulation of all data
- an eyewitness to a very one sided beat down
- a forensic pathologist
- a breakdown of the autopsy and complete breakdown of locations of bruising and injuries sustained by both parties (not the mortician who prepared the body at a later date, but the guy who analyzes bodies for the police immediately post incident)
- GZ’s personal trainer who testified that he was horribly out of shape and incapable of throwing a punch
- Law enforcement Dennis Root (who provided an amazingly detailed analysis of the entire series of events, I recommend this highly!)
- and pretty much everyone else involved in any way
and yes, you can even get the information on TM’s being found with stolen items in school, his past drug history, drug residue found on him in school, and eventual suspension from his school which was the reason he was sent to Fla in the first place. For the record, despite what people like Martin Bashir are putting out there in their own videos, this information wasn’t even used in the trial. No one character assassinated TM. It is simply part of the standard process to gather as much information as possible on both parties. GZ was on trial, not TM, and while this information may shatter the cherubic image of TM when he was 11 that got plastered everywhere to paint the defendant as a child killer, it was actually useless in the case and both sides knew it.
Additionally you can hear the full 911 tape that was edited very early on to make it sound like GZ was racist (instead of him simply responding to the dispatcher’s questioning), testimony that supports the fact that a 911 operator saying “we don’t need you to do that” is part of a standard script they must follow to avoid legal implications lest someone suffers injuries, as well as history of previous calls from neighborhood watchers - GZ included - where the cops didn’t show up in time and the record of several recent break-ins in the community in question.
Now obviously I’m hoping to not get jumped on by stating all of this and I have no intention of really getting involved in this thread, BUT in light of what occurred, when all evidence (real provable evidence, not someone hearing a muffled sound over a phone and imagining that it’s a headset being thrown on the grass) is weighing solely on one side, and the final decision is in the hands of people with nothing to gain or lose, all selected and agreed upon by both legal teams, despite the fact that someone lost his life, when the defendant has violated no laws under state or federal decrees, then no matter how many people try to pin it on unrelated (unprovable) matters, the verdict is what it is in the eyes of the law.
I guess I’m just shocked at how the perceived racial divide is actually reinforced by people in positions where they could actually do some good instead.
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Zim’s PT said he was in a horrible shape and, yet had a special page about that fat bastard’s (meh he wasn’t fat back then) training on the club website. That page has since been taken down, and in order to get some details, the only option is to contact the club owner.
It is also interesting how the media only portrayed one side of the story during this trial. Even on this site, people were talking more about trayvon Martin’s ‘‘thuggery’’ but his killer’s history of violence was hardly mentioned. George Zimmerpig has his Myspace page up where he gladly talks about running over Mexicans and beating his gf. All those details were omitted by the media.
I do not believe there was equal balance in the way the two parties were portrayed.[/quote]
Maybe, but what either individual was like or acted like before the night in question, it’s all irrelevant when you weigh what actually occurred between TM and GZ one that one night, within just a short stretch of time. What the media portrayed was NOT what was presented and considered by the members of the jury. People seem to be overlooking that fact.
Whether TM was a ‘thug’ with a history of drug use, well known perchance for fighting, stealing etc AND whether GZ was ever in good shape, ever wanted to be a cop, ever called 911 before concerning unidentified people in his gated community, ever was arrested but not charged himself for domestic issues, it all means nothing when all physical evidence, eyewitness testimony, detailed forensic reports and a recorded contemporaneous conversation between the 911 dispatcher and GZ describing how TM disappeared (the only reason Z got out of his car) and then came back towards him and started the physical confrontation, as well as forensic evidence support a very open and shut exchange.
Neither man knew who the other was, nor their background histories, and just as no one, pillar of the community or not, deserves to be shot, no one deserves to be jumped and pummeled into the ground simply for alerting the authorities to your concerns about what you are worried might be yet another in a series of crimes in your neighborhood. Following someone is not a crime, physically striking someone is. Nothing can change these facts, no matter how we might feel emotionally, or dare I say it, racially about the tragedy itself.
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