Trayvon Martin Pt. 2 'The Legacy'

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

He has a job to do. People try to minimize his job as “wannabe Cop,” which it probably is, but god forbid he tries to do his job well. Just because you call the police doesn’t mean they show up right away. They have other things to deal with, hence why neighborhood watch was created in the first place. People call the cops on other people and they get away all the time because of late response times. Not talking shit about police, just saying their main priority is NOT a kid walking around suspicious in a hoodie. However, a kid walking around suspiciously in a hoodie IS the main priority for neighborhood watch. Which is probably why Zimmerman was following him. [/quote]

He was neighbourhood watchman. His job was to fucking watch.

And funny enough, he wasn’t even on duty that night. he wasn’t supposed to use his gun. He wasn’t even that community gate’s watchman. He never went to any of the neighbourhood watch meetings, he self-proclaimed the watchman, and amusingly, most of the residents even stated they had never heard of him. LOL!
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What I learned today:

Neighborhood Watchman Law supercedes state and federal law.

See, this internet thing ain’t all bad after all!

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Darkninjaa Serious question. Do all the white people here live in Chicago? How do they know about the large number of murders if the people there are not complaining?[/quote]

This website is literally made for you:

It’s incredible how every time DarkNinjaa posts, she proves she’s an idiot.

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
It’s incredibly how everytime DarkNinjaa posts, she proves she’s an idiot.[/quote]

She?

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
As another hunter that’s very true. And those damn deer are tough and quite smart. [/quote]

The deer in MS are fat and stupid.[/quote]

Reaaally. Tell me more about these fat amd stupid deer you have…

I smell a road trip brewing.

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
When I wrote “black as night” I paused on that and considered changing it. I assumed that people are mature enough not to be like, “zomg you mean like black skin, like you can only see the white of my eyes and my teeth because I have dark skin, you’re so racist!!” I have more faith in people than that.

I was also going to add regarding your comment on daylight, that many of the more common crimes - such as burglary - occur during the day because most people aren’t home and are at work. Its easier to avoid the home-owners. So you’re right, day time is not a safer time. You can walk into the bad parts of a city in the middle of the day and still turn up missing. I could do exactly that here in Japan, if I go down a street where the Yakuza frequent and start trouble, you can bet they won’t wait until night fall to deal with the problem “gaijin.”

For me personally, my concern is first and foremost always my family. If someone wants to steal my possessions, go for it, I have insurance. Let them take my belongings, they can be replaced. I can not replace a life or the quality of life that was had when someone felt safe. Have you ever met someone who was a victim of a crime, especially one that personally affected them (ie not robbery, but harsher crime). Those people have had a portion of their lives robbed from them. They may be physically fine, but mentally and emotionally they are compromised forever. An Asian girl who is raped by a US military person will forever fear and profile white men. A Black father whose son was mercilessly beat by cops will forever hate men in uniform. We are impacted by the world around us and our experiences, it does form our worldview.

My greatest humor in all of this, though its borderline sadness and pity, is that people sit here and talk about, “well maybe you aren’t cultured enough.” How many people in this thread have been around the world, have seen different walks of life? I’m not talking the tourist areas, I mean have actually seen the REAL side of other cultures? The US may have its problems, but its a shining star among the rest of the world when it comes to cultural acceptance, good cops, and fair treatment for everyone. I’d love to see folks’ reaction after living in Russia for a month, or China, or how about somewhere like Africa?

Be grateful for what we do have, get over your petty issues and move forward. I said this some 20 pages ago,and it was all out ignored. We do have issues, and they do exist quite strongly in the Black, inner-city community, just as it does with the White inner-city community, just as it does in some small town rural communities - though their problem is more education than crime. I want to know solutions and what to do, because all I see are problems. I see people making money off of problems (like Sharpton and others) and good people suffering as a result, on both sides.

When will you grow up?[/quote]

Thanks Quasi. I appreciate your insightful thinking. I only wish more were as honest and intelligent.

It’s funny what this stemmed from. I was just trying to make a simple point and apparently some people can’t be honest with themselves enough to admit to human nature. I guess some people will always have a holier than thou attitude. No matter what is presented to them.

Thanks again

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Prof X, you really come off as an idiot.[/quote]

Wow really calling more people you dont agree with names on a anonymous forum… That seems pretty idiotic. What happened to this debate today? For awhile I was intrigued because it gave people here something to discuss and share different points of view. It was nice to see fellow meat heads flexing the brain muscle. Now its just turned into ridiculous name calling & a argument over fictional scenarios.

WTF… Since we just went full retard I might as well put my dick in the mashed potatoes. Heres a question say you see a Prof X clone in his tank top and baggy sweat pants walking down your street at 7PM talking on his cell phone what crosses your mind.

A) Nothing its a dude on the phone big deal
B) I wonder how many weeks hes been out of prison
C) I hope thats not general Mandingo from Obamas negro army coming to take my guns
D) Is my vagina safe

On a serouse side what do you think 6 white suburban women would perceive?

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Konigswolf wrote:
Serious question; there have been over 200 murders in Chicago this year alone (mostly young black males killed by other blacks), according to the department of Justice 94% of all blacks murdered in the US are murdered by other blacks so why aren’t all these so called black leaders like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the Black Panthers speaking out about this? When a Spanish guy shoots a black man in self defense it becomes all about “evil racist” white people. It’s absolutely ridiculous !![/quote]

And according to the department of Justice,86% of white victims are killed by white offenders.

Not such a large margin compare to black on black crime, eh? What are your white leaders doing about it?

But as they saiy, ‘‘When White People are murdered by Blacks…no one requires that White people discuss ‘‘White on White’’ crime as an elixir.’’

Black-on-black crime is no more real than white-on-white crime. The victims usually share a racial id, or have some prior relationship to each other, because most of the time, Crime is driven by opportunism and proximity.

Blacks are more likely to be robbed, or injured, or killed by other blacks who live in the same area as each other. Blacks are still more likely to live near each other or other minorities than they are to whites. And when we reverse the races, whites are much more likely to live near other whites than they are to minorities and blacks in particular.

But this black on black crime argument has become some deflection from a case that has nothing to do with it. Offenders in those crimes are being dealt with, and of course, since no one is chanting on top of the roofs about it, how would you know the black community is not dealing with it? the offenders are mostly arrested and jailed for a very long time. It is almost never the case when the offender is white and the victim black. Usually, the white party gets away with it.

Case in point; Ziimfatkilla.

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White leaders aren’t discussing white in white crime because the amount of whites killed by other whites is no were near the amount of blacks killed by other blacks. “When whites are killed by blacks no one mentions white on white crime” are you kidding me? Blacks kill whites so often no one has the chance. “In accordance with the department of justice” blacks are 64 times more likely to murder a white then visa versa.

Btw 64 times =6400%, but when a white kills a black it becomes a media frenzy of all the poor blacks being murdered and repressed by the evil white man. “Guilty of walking while black in a white neighborhood” lmao. Whites can’t even go into black neighborhoods with out getting killed.

I’d say you need to add more to that scenario.

  1. What is he talking about, and how loudly/aggressively is he talking?
  2. Have I seen him before, or is this the first time?
  3. Do any black people live in the neighborhood - you might question this one, but how often does a random Polish guy wonder into the Italian quarter of a city? Ie, is it within the norm of what occurs there on a regular basis.
  4. How would I see him walking down the street at night? This isn’t meant to be racist, if the street isn’t well-lit you won’t see him. Many suburban areas are not street-lit whereas city streets are.
  5. Am I outside or inside?

Personally, I probably wouldn’t see him because I’d be busy doing my own thing. If I did see him, and it was a Prof X sized guy, my first thought would be, “well, looks like I have a new neighbor or someone is lost,” second thought, “sweet dude must workout, hope I get to talk to him/meet him if he is indeed a new neighbor,” third thought, “who wears sweat pants in the middle of the summer?”

Edit: Now make it 4-5 guys walking down my street, I’ve never seen before, and considering recent Trayvon Martin protests, beating, and issues, I’m going to get my gun and keep it within reach or on my person inside my house, just in case. Call me pre-emptive if you must.

Will I open a door for a Prof X if he knocks on my door, looks lost, distraut, or in need of help, yes. Would I want my girlfriend to open the door, no, and that goes for any male knocking on our door at night, or the daytime, too much shit goes down… I live in a nice neighborhood, but I still don’t trust people. Besides X is a sexy beast, he might steal her away.

Edit 2: Let’s not make this about race. State any guy in a neighborhood that clearly isn’t an identified neighbor, walking down your street at night talking on the phone - what is your reaction? What point am I trying to make, person is profiled as suspicious because its dark out and they aren’t a part of the neighborhood.

My father got in a car accident a few years ago. He had to walk to the nearest house. He was coming home from a blue-collared job, sweaty, in the rain, and probably didn’t look that great. The kid who crossed the lines and hit him was sitting on the hood of his car bleeding from the shards of glass in his face. Took 5 minutes for the people to open the door, though he heard rustling for quite some time prior. They heard the noise but it was far enough away they didn’t see what happened. Would you open the door to some strange man knocking on your door in the rain on a dreary evening without having some suspicion? After the lady opened the door she immediately became helpful, but I’ll bet my paycheck she was at least cautious of the situation.

Bad grooming habits?
Bad person

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
I’d say you need to add more to that scenario.

  1. What is he talking about, and how loudly/aggressively is he talking?
  2. Have I seen him before, or is this the first time?
  3. Do any black people live in the neighborhood - you might question this one, but how often does a random Polish guy wonder into the Italian quarter of a city? Ie, is it within the norm of what occurs there on a regular basis.
  4. How would I see him walking down the street at night? This isn’t meant to be racist, if the street isn’t well-lit you won’t see him. Many suburban areas are not street-lit whereas city streets are.
  5. Am I outside or inside?

Why?
Thats the point I was trying to make. The fact that you really had to think about it is the problem…Based on the simplicity anything other then A) Would show a level of racisim at the very least a bias… Never did I mention groups or anything other then a large blackman wearing gym clothes walking down the street on his cell. But to answer your ?'s

  1. Whats is matter its his phone call unless you had spock ears how would you know
  2. Who cares its a man walking down the street he could be someones friend realitive ect
  3. same as 2…Sure who cares polish chinese ect people can go where they want in a free society
  4. I changed the time to 7PM so its dusk easy to see anyone… A normal time to walk even for black folk
  5. Why would it matter? If you think you need to get inside when 1 blackman strolls down your street and prepare for war you sir might just be a racist

All jokes aside… I think many in this thread are racist and are trying to be as politically corect as they can about it, but why?? No one here knows anyone for real just let it out… At least in the south the racists let you know how they feel.
Im not saying you are but my questions were just a joke. If you had to dig into as anything other than a joke it should have been. (A) A large guy walking down the street in workout clothes weather he was black, white, hispanic, asian shouldnt make a difference. No one mentioned groups, violent anythings, or for that matter anything other then 1 dude on phone… You created the rest…

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

Wow really calling more people you dont agree with names on a anonymous forum… That seems pretty idiotic. What happened to this debate today? For awhile I was intrigued because it gave people here something to discuss and share different points of view. It was nice to see fellow meat heads flexing the brain muscle. Now its just turned into ridiculous name calling & a argument over fictional scenarios.

WTF… Since we just went full retard I might as well put my dick in the mashed potatoes. Heres a question say you see a Prof X clone in his tank top and baggy sweat pants walking down your street at 7PM talking on his cell phone what crosses your mind.

A) Nothing its a dude on the phone big deal
B) I wonder how many weeks hes been out of prison
C) I hope thats not general Mandingo from Obamas negro army coming to take my guns
D) Is my vagina safe

On a serouse side what do you think 6 white suburban women would perceive?[/quote]

I have made several extremely lengthy posts concerning the facts of the Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman case. I have posted several links as well. All the information necessary to come to the valid conclusion of he is innocent/not guilty. I’m tired of repeating myself.

I’m calling prof X an idiot because his rhetoric was utterly ridiculous. He’s playing tough guy on the internet. As for DarkNinjaa, her posts are constantly filled with racist, childish vulgaristy, and arguing with her is like arguing with a retarded 5 year old. I have absolutely no problem having civil discourse, but when people are unwilling to actual be open minded and are simply being blind to any sort of proof or argument, then it’s time to go full retard.

As for your prof X scenario, that’s fine. Is Prof X walking inbetween houses, looking at them, while it’s pouring, and there have been break ins recently? I call the police, and I keep tabs on him as best I can.

[quote]Someone else wrote:

"In spite of all the trial coverage and media rehashing of this case, it’s amazing how few people seem to realize what the evidence is that surprisingly clearly shows happened that night. Zimmerman wasn’t just not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. He was obviously innocent of any criminal act, and frankly in my opinion on completely morally sound ground.

The facts:

Zimmerman claimed to be trying to follow from a safe distance just so police would have a chance to question Martin. There had been break ins and what George did really isn't any different than what other neighborhood watches have done in the past. Martin didn't like being followed so he gave Zimmerman the slip, hid in the shadows, waiting for Zimmerman to pass, and then Martin approached Zimmerman from behind, initiated the confrontation and broke Zimmerman's nose. No evidence or testimony has ever contradicted this.

Other than the single point blank gun shot wound, Martin had no injuries. Zimmerman on the other hand looked beaten all to hell. This was consistent with Zimmerman being on the receiving end of an unexpected one sided beat down.

When investigating officers lied and told Zimmerman that they had footage of the incident, Zimmerman was relieved, and said something along the lines of, "Thank God! I was hoping someone would have filmed to help prove what happened." This convinced the officer that Zimmerman was telling the truth.

Trayvon who has been regularly depicted in the media as younger and practically a saint, was actually suspended from school, not for being absent, but for having drugs and possible stolen goods at school. While he no doubt also had his sweet side, his twitter handle was â??No_Limit_Niggaâ?? filled with gangsta nonsense, and the only racial slurs ever uttered in the case were said by Trayvon and not Zimmerman. I'm not saying that any of this proves Trayvon was guilty or by any means deserved to die. The only thing that the evidence clearly points to Trayvon being guilty of is initiating the Assault on Zimmerman.

The officers who investigated the shooting found no probable cause for arrest, because every part of Zimmerman's story was supported by the limited evidence. The chief of police later lost his job because he refused to arrest Zimmerman without more evidence, despite all the political pressure. The normal prosecutor didn't take this case for 'mysterious' reasons, likely because he didn't want to take a losing case and prosecute a man who as so obviously innocent. Normally the prosecutor gets to decide if he wants to pursue a case, but not this time, the activist pressure was too high. Even the ringers they brought in to substitute never really presented a good alternate explanation, and admitted in summation that the only two who really knew what happened were Zimmerman and Trayvon. It's obviously way past reasonable doubt when even the prosecutor can't say he knows the guy did it.

Essentially this open and shut case only went to trial because racist racial activists went off before the facts were in and they even realized that George Zimmerman wasn’t even white.

You can argue that getting out of the car wasn’t smart, but the evidence shows George Zimmerman did nothing wrong.

THE SOURCES (Since everyone I mention this to immediately asks me for them anyway.)

Point 1. The videotaped walkthrough of the scene of the crime and the recounting of that night that Zimmerman did with the police.

Point 2. Summaries of the autopsy of Martin and medical examination of Zimmerman’s injuries.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/10/george-zimmerman-murder-trayvon-martin-autopsy

Point 3. The investigating officer testifying on the “It looks like he recorded the whole thing,” bluff. Skip to 1:16:00 to cut to the chase.

Point 4. Links on Martin’s Checkered past. Trayvon Martin Suspended From School Three Times: Report – NBC 6 South Florida

Caught with suspected stolen property and burglarly tools at school - http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html
Thug life Twitter Feed: The Daily Caller obtains Trayvon Martin’s tweets | The Daily Caller

Martin’s Racial Slurs: Trayvon Martin creepy ass cracker | racial profiling

Point 5. Video of the interview with the Police chief who was fired for refusing to arrest Zimmerman for lack of evidence.

TLDR - Everyone has an opinion on this case, but surprisingly few have taken the time to learn the facts. There is no evidence that George Zimmerman did anything wrong. [/quote]

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Prof X, you really come off as an idiot.[/quote]

Wow really calling more people you dont agree with names on a anonymous forum… That seems pretty idiotic. What happened to this debate today? For awhile I was intrigued because it gave people here something to discuss and share different points of view. It was nice to see fellow meat heads flexing the brain muscle. Now its just turned into ridiculous name calling & a argument over fictional scenarios.

WTF… Since we just went full retard I might as well put my dick in the mashed potatoes. Heres a question say you see a Prof X clone in his tank top and baggy sweat pants walking down your street at 7PM talking on his cell phone what crosses your mind.

A) Nothing its a dude on the phone big deal
B) I wonder how many weeks hes been out of prison
C) I hope thats not general Mandingo from Obamas negro army coming to take my guns
D) Is my vagina safe

On a serouse side what do you think 6 white suburban women would perceive?[/quote]

If I saw X on the street talking on the cell phone with baggy pants? What would I think? My first reaction would be “big arms, he must work out, I wonder how much he benches.” Seriously, most people don’t think about race in their everyday lives.

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Bad grooming habits?
Bad person [/quote]

Love the meme, but also makes a good point. Is it better to profile someone based off hygiene over race or clothing? or is it all the same?

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Prof X, you really come off as an idiot.[/quote]

Wow really calling more people you dont agree with names on a anonymous forum… That seems pretty idiotic. What happened to this debate today? For awhile I was intrigued because it gave people here something to discuss and share different points of view. It was nice to see fellow meat heads flexing the brain muscle. Now its just turned into ridiculous name calling & a argument over fictional scenarios.

WTF… Since we just went full retard I might as well put my dick in the mashed potatoes. Heres a question say you see a Prof X clone in his tank top and baggy sweat pants walking down your street at 7PM talking on his cell phone what crosses your mind.

A) Nothing its a dude on the phone big deal
B) I wonder how many weeks hes been out of prison
C) I hope thats not general Mandingo from Obamas negro army coming to take my guns
D) Is my vagina safe

On a serouse side what do you think 6 white suburban women would perceive?[/quote]

If I saw X on the street talking on the cell phone with baggy pants? What would I think? My first reaction would be “big arms, he must work out, I wonder how much he benches.” Seriously, most people don’t think about race in their everyday lives. [/quote]

Agreed Maiden thats the point I was making anyone that has to ask other questions or dig deaper into it other then just “big dude on cell who gives a fuck” would be showing a level of racisim or bias or at the very least trying to justify that bias.

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Prof X, you really come off as an idiot.[/quote]

Wow really calling more people you dont agree with names on a anonymous forum… That seems pretty idiotic. What happened to this debate today? For awhile I was intrigued because it gave people here something to discuss and share different points of view. It was nice to see fellow meat heads flexing the brain muscle. Now its just turned into ridiculous name calling & a argument over fictional scenarios.

WTF… Since we just went full retard I might as well put my dick in the mashed potatoes. Heres a question say you see a Prof X clone in his tank top and baggy sweat pants walking down your street at 7PM talking on his cell phone what crosses your mind.

A) Nothing its a dude on the phone big deal
B) I wonder how many weeks hes been out of prison
C) I hope thats not general Mandingo from Obamas negro army coming to take my guns
D) Is my vagina safe

On a serouse side what do you think 6 white suburban women would perceive?[/quote]

If I saw X on the street talking on the cell phone with baggy pants? What would I think? My first reaction would be “big arms, he must work out, I wonder how much he benches.” Seriously, most people don’t think about race in their everyday lives. [/quote]

Agreed Maiden thats the point I was making anyone that has to ask other questions or dig deaper into it other then just “big dude on cell who gives a fuck” would be showing a level of racisim or bias or at the very least trying to justify that bias.[/quote]

Where we disagree: A neighborhood watchmen or policeman who is looking for people that may commit or have committed crimes MUST profile to do their job well unlike the rest of us. Would a cop more likely watch PX in baggy pants or a guy in a suit walking his kids? I would say PX every time and I don’t think that is wrong. And if it were a white guy in baggy pants and a black guy in a suit walking his kids, they would probably watch the black dude in baggy pants if they had to pick one. But the normal person with no duty to protect the area would probably think nothing of either unless threatened.

No, it really does matter. I can take a guy and have him walking down the street with a bloodied knife wearing a tank and sweat pants and you’ll think one thing, and have another guy walking out of the woods in camo hold the same damn knife and you’ll think something else.

The scenario does in fact affect how you react. You denying that shows that you’re only trying to prove a point.

His reaction on the phone is incredibly important. Is he talking normal, yelling and screaming profanity, etc… Would you want to interact with someone who was walking down the street screaming racial slurs, cuss words, etc. into their phone? If the answer is, yes you’d still talk to them, how about if they were talking poorly about black people, since that seems to be your pet peeve?

So you see, it is all about circumstance, and not just about the person. That’s why and how cases are built, thats why things can go from bad to worse, and why people trust their instincts above logic many times.

And if you want to be nit-picky, many times in order for someone to be a relative they are also of the same nationality. So in my case, I don’t think there is a single Black family on my street, Asian yes, but not Black. Hence why my assumption would have been, “new neighbor walking for exercise”, assuming there weren’t some other things to set off my Spidey-senses.

My reference to Polish/Italian was the fact that they don’t get along. Hey, both white and they still are at edge with each other - generally speaking. You don’t find Polish people in Italian clubs and vice versa, and I’m talking where the old men go. It has nothing to do with skin color, like minded people stay together. Hell, where I grew up there were three Churches in my town, a Polish one, an Italian one, and I forget the third, I think it was Eastern European. All the people were American, spoke English fine, but they had their own traditions, and wanted a priest that understood them. The Polish Church even treated an Italian priest not so kindly, even though he was from the same diocese, people are funny like that.

Fine, plenty of people walk down my street at dusk, I’ve done it a few times. Takes me back to my original question… why would someone/anyone I don’t recognize be walking down my street? I don’t like in the city. Again, its about setting.

Whether one is outside or inside does matter. If I’m inside and he is outside, I probably won’t see him. I have a door between he and I, so unless he comes to my door, I’m not going to bother with him, his business is his own. If I’m outside, there’s a chance if he wants interaction he may interact or say something to me, like, “hi.” If I’m inside, I doubt he’ll be walking down the street yelling hello to every house he passes.

Why is this such a difficult concept? Do you react the same in every situation just because of the person, or do you treat each situation differently depending on what is going on around you?

Example - do you yell and scream when talking to people in your home, or do you just do that at a sports bar where its loud and you have to raise your voice to be heard? Do you share a beer with a complete stranger walking down the street for the sake of conversation, or do you just buy the guy sitting next to you a beer because you’ve been chatting for 15 minutes about whats on the TV? Do you react poorly to a white guy who is knocking on your door asking for help, the same way you’d react to a white guy knocking on your door with a ski mask on?

[quote]Konigswolf wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Konigswolf wrote:
Serious question; there have been over 200 murders in Chicago this year alone (mostly young black males killed by other blacks), according to the department of Justice 94% of all blacks murdered in the US are murdered by other blacks so why aren’t all these so called black leaders like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the Black Panthers speaking out about this? When a Spanish guy shoots a black man in self defense it becomes all about “evil racist” white people. It’s absolutely ridiculous !![/quote]

And according to the department of Justice,86% of white victims are killed by white offenders.

Not such a large margin compare to black on black crime, eh? What are your white leaders doing about it?

But as they saiy, ‘‘When White People are murdered by Blacks…no one requires that White people discuss ‘‘White on White’’ crime as an elixir.’’

Black-on-black crime is no more real than white-on-white crime. The victims usually share a racial id, or have some prior relationship to each other, because most of the time, Crime is driven by opportunism and proximity.

Blacks are more likely to be robbed, or injured, or killed by other blacks who live in the same area as each other. Blacks are still more likely to live near each other or other minorities than they are to whites. And when we reverse the races, whites are much more likely to live near other whites than they are to minorities and blacks in particular.

But this black on black crime argument has become some deflection from a case that has nothing to do with it. Offenders in those crimes are being dealt with, and of course, since no one is chanting on top of the roofs about it, how would you know the black community is not dealing with it? the offenders are mostly arrested and jailed for a very long time. It is almost never the case when the offender is white and the victim black. Usually, the white party gets away with it.

Case in point; Ziimfatkilla.

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White leaders aren’t discussing white in white crime because the amount of whites killed by other whites is no were near the amount of blacks killed by other blacks. “When whites are killed by blacks no one mentions white on white crime” are you kidding me? Blacks kill whites so often no one has the chance. “In accordance with the department of justice” blacks are 64 times more likely to murder a white then visa versa.

Btw 64 times =6400%, but when a white kills a black it becomes a media frenzy of all the poor blacks being murdered and repressed by the evil white man. “Guilty of walking while black in a white neighborhood” lmao. Whites can’t even go into black neighborhoods with out getting killed.
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Thats a good point. There are some towns that whites just cannot go to without pretty much guaranteeing trouble. Things might be different in some of the hick towns in the south, but around here no one bats an eye when a black dude shows up in one of the affluent, 95+% non-black towns.