I’m not cut out for ten miles right now. I’d have to work up to it.
Oh look the hit jedi is triggered, sorry but you can go spread your bro science elsewhere
At least he hit weight with some determination.
Not like he’s looking for a comfy benchy-wenchy and some nice fluffy weighty-poos.
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Just do what is right for you man. Training is an experiment because not everything that works for one will work for another. Maybe you need moderate volume at moderate intensity, maybe something else.
Do something else for awhile, and evaluate your progress.
I do feel some of your frustration is just frustration that results take a long time for most people. HIT worked for me, HVT worked, undulating worked, but they all took awhile for me.
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This thread is pointless.
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Are you seriously that pissed off about the gym?
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Yeah man, think about the gainz you’re missing out on.
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Are we really surprised based on tone of the OP? He was determined to say FUCK THA FREE (WEIGHT) WORLD right out of the gate and has met every comment with defensiveness. We haven’t seen a poster this entitled since supercar.
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Not in the slightest, haha. This isn’t even a good dumpster-fire thread.
Tiggered? Nope! But thats such an entitled millennial word…
Bro science is the spread of misinformation with claims not back in science. If you knew as much as you THINK you do, then you’d know HIT concepts where firmly backed by pioneering physiologists many decades before Arthur Jones came on the scene, and still are today.
Whatever happened to that guy
I noticed he disappeared when some guy came in to his log and gave him the biggest sugar coated bleaching of all time
I’m pretty sure he has his pro card by now and proved all us haters wrong.
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He’s driving a super car
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I use both free weights and machines. They’re both interchangeable, but free weights translates significantly more for overall athleticism and strength.
Though I’ve noticed a few overweight guys brag about how much they can leg press or press on various machines… newsflash… pushing heavy weights on machines isn’t that impressive until we get into absurd territory.
If your claim to fame is a big leg press but you can’t even squat a measly 225 you’ve got some work to do.
I’d take weighted pistol squats, heavy Bulgarian split squats etc over leg press. I can leg press 700lbs (well 683lbs) for sets of ten if I want to, leg pressing heavy isn’t difficult… I don’t have very strong legs… it’s fucking leg press…
With this being said. I’ve never seen say… a guy max out a chest press machine who can’t bench press 225lbs.
If you’re pressing 250lbs + for sets of ten on a machine, chances are you can hit a 100kg bench press for at least one rep. However leg press is one of those exercises that appear to carry over to… nothing.
As in, my bench somewhat correlates to my OHP. I could stop overhead pressing for two months and continue benching/incline benching and my OHP MIGHT improve ever so slightly and vice versa. At the very least it’d stay the same.
Leg press… seems to have no carry over to anything useful. Though they do help one get bigger legs. But even with that, you don’t need to be a dick and max out on a leg press by taking virtually all the weights available in the gym. No one is looking at you and thinking “look at how strong that guy is” they’re looking at you and thinking "when is he going to be done… I want to squat/deadlift/bench/ohp/row…‘’
Freeweight exercises (and calisthenics) are significantly harder than using the machines because machines don’t require all that much stabilisation. Getting the weight from point A to point B through a fixed plane is significantly easier than getting a barbell (or your body) from point A to point B.
You can leg press 800lbs but can’t do a single pullup or bench your BW? Whoop de doo…
Barbell exercises (and calisthenics to a degree depending on your level of physical fitness) also tend to be significantly more taxing to the CNS.
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Gotta love the bow-chicka-wow music in this clip.
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I’ve thought about this a bit. You are pushing the weight at an angle. You are only working against gravity for the vertical portion of the motion. So if you were using a 45 degree machine, you would be lifting that weight times the cosine(45) which ends up being about 0.6*weight loaded. Additionally, you are not lifting your body weight on a leg press (or at least not very much compared to a squat). Then there is the lower ROM compared to a squat. Then there is the fact that very little balance is needed compared to the squat.
It is a tool. Just don’t fool yourself into thinking you’re really strong unless you are moving a shit ton of weight on it. Ronnie has done reps with 2,500 lbs.
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@jskrabac Many years ago I too had what I now call “weirdo anger” that is often let out online. So I’m patient with people. 
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Those were simpler, more innocent times.
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Now that’s what I call training music! 
Strangely enough, not too far from the musical entertainment on porn movies from the same era. “It’s physical activities”…