You’ll never see someone with a big yoke lifting some geriatric weights.
Also, +1 to @T3hPwnisher’s response
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And given @unreal24278 has interest in combat sports, big strong traps are awesome for holding up your hands when striking, exerting power, and grappling in general.
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I see shrugs as individual. My traps are naturally large, deadlifts are the only thing I do for them, and they are out of proportion. Adding shrugs for me seems unnecessary. If they are a weak point, adding shrugs would probably be a good idea.
Honorable mention: if your traps get big enough, like Mike Israetel’s for example, your neck starts regressing such that it may actually be impossible to get choked out.
Seriously, imagine trying to get a chokehold on that neck. You won’t.
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But don’t deadlifts and shoulder pressing movements work them enough? Or is isolation work preferable?
I do direct neck training, but not shrugs
Nah, there are chokeholds one can initiate with legs, very possible to choke out a large guy with your legs.
How much does the book cost? I’m very frugal with spending money atm
The notion that deadlifts are sufficient for building traps is akin to saying rows are sufficient for building biceps
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On top of that, making your upper traps stronger won’t hurt, so why not do some shrugs?. Coming at this from a different angle… doing DB Shrugs with a 3 - 5 count pause on each rep helped stabilize my shoulders, which allowed me to finally do dumbbell pressing again. Not saying shrugs were the only thing or even the main thing that stabilized my shoulder (I credit band pull aparts for that). However, they did contribute a noticeable amount.
Having any muscle be weaker than it could be isn’t an advantage haha.
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Well put! I think this is even deeper than on the surface, which you likely intended: it’s not an absolute statement. “Sufficient” is dependent on one’s own goals.
As another aside, I really do like when these whiny, argumentative, entitled threads derail into either productive training conversations or good-natured banter. That inevitable process tells a tale that warms my jaded heart.
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Absolutely! I’m glad that came through 
This is the wholesome content we need <3
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Surely that depends on where you need it shipped. This sounds like a poor question to ask online as a search bar should be somewhat accessible to you.
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Anywhere theres internetz.
Less than 10.00
What do we know?
- Millions of people train, ‘not-to-failure’, and still get results.
- In nature (10k years ago), the only time we would have ‘gone to failure’ in daily life was just before being killed by something or someone.
HIT, in practice, is the attempt to apply as much load stress as possible (strength training), combined with management for SHOCK.
What he’s talking about here: Some people, when training HIT, slip into borderline shock. Not necessarily full shock, but close enough.
Their muscles recover much faster than the Central Nervous System. I"m not talking about CNS burnout. I mean, actual SHOCK.
Even if you don’t train to failure, STILL focus on:
Good Exercise Selection - follow ‘function dictates design’ rules
Impeccable form and control
Train hard enough to ‘Volitional Fatigue’.
Some workouts, etc.
You’ll get the same results, maybe even better.
Avoid shock, you’ll be fine.