Training Right Before Bed?

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[quote]ryanw2007 wrote:
Artem wrote:
I prefer training at night, but it will sometimes be a bit harder to get to sleep - not always though.
Go for it. It beats training in the morning any day.

can i ask why it beats training in the morning? please give him a reason not just because…[/quote]

Personally, I’m weaker in the morning. I just like lifting better at night. That’s just me. There’s no science behind it.

Also, wouldn’t it be better to have time to carb up before a workout? I know glycogen is stored in the muscle until it is used though.

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Check this out:

under “The Best Time of Day to Train”

It seems that as long as you’re consistent then it shouldn’t matter.

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i was training before bed for a good solid three months. i made some of the best gains ive had. i would train, take my post, take a shower eat a big meal and go to bed.

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My sleep patterns are destroyed when I lift at night. I get 2 hours of sleep, then I’m up…sometimes the rest of the night…and if I do fall back to sleep it’s not a deep sleep. I don’t get use to it, it doesn’t get much better or worse.

I know it doesn’t bother alot of people. I knew people that said they sleep better when they work out at night. Pulling a 100 hours in that environment and lifting is just real rough. Good luck.

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[quote]Artem wrote:
ryanw2007 wrote:
Artem wrote:
I prefer training at night, but it will sometimes be a bit harder to get to sleep - not always though.
Go for it. It beats training in the morning any day.

can i ask why it beats training in the morning? please give him a reason not just because…

Personally, I’m weaker in the morning. I just like lifting better at night. That’s just me. There’s no science behind it.

Also, wouldn’t it be better to have time to carb up before a workout? I know glycogen is stored in the muscle until it is used though.[/quote]

well u tell me would u rather recover fast from your work out or have a lil bit more energy for your work out… on top of that being said if u read any of bodybuilding encyclopedia’s like arnolds he explains that working out in the morning is better then evening. if you can recover better from workout and be stronger next week wouldnt it almost be worth it to deal with the hassles of training in the morning or after u wake up not before u go to bed…to be honest i like to train right in the middle of the day for me i get 4 meals in before i pump the iron and 4 meals in after i pump the iron. that way i gett the best of both worlds a lil bit of energy and enough meals to allow my body to recover.

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[quote]ryanw2007 wrote:
Artem wrote:
ryanw2007 wrote:
Artem wrote:
I prefer training at night, but it will sometimes be a bit harder to get to sleep - not always though.
Go for it. It beats training in the morning any day.

can i ask why it beats training in the morning? please give him a reason not just because…

Personally, I’m weaker in the morning. I just like lifting better at night. That’s just me. There’s no science behind it.

Also, wouldn’t it be better to have time to carb up before a workout? I know glycogen is stored in the muscle until it is used though.

well u tell me would u rather recover fast from your work out or have a lil bit more energy for your work out… on top of that being said if u read any of bodybuilding encyclopedia’s like arnolds he explains that working out in the morning is better then evening. if you can recover better from workout and be stronger next week wouldnt it almost be worth it to deal with the hassles of training in the morning or after u wake up not before u go to bed…to be honest i like to train right in the middle of the day for me i get 4 meals in before i pump the iron and 4 meals in after i pump the iron. that way i gett the best of both worlds a lil bit of energy and enough meals to allow my body to recover.[/quote]

I haven’t read any bodybuilding encyclopedias, and although I respect Arnold, he was no scientist. I like to train around 5pm, but I start at 9pm at the latest because my gym closes at 11. Training within a few hours of waking up just doesn’t feel right for me.

And I recover well enough to do body parts twice a week and be stronger every time anyways, so I don’t think I need to pick between the options you laid out. Not like I have an option anyways. I’m not gonna skip school to lift in the AM.

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[quote]Artem wrote:
ryanw2007 wrote:
Artem wrote:
I prefer training at night, but it will sometimes be a bit harder to get to sleep - not always though.
Go for it. It beats training in the morning any day.

can i ask why it beats training in the morning? please give him a reason not just because…

Personally, I’m weaker in the morning. I just like lifting better at night. That’s just me. There’s no science behind it.

Also, wouldn’t it be better to have time to carb up before a workout? I know glycogen is stored in the muscle until it is used though.[/quote]

I’ve never liked ‘carbing up’ prior to training. I understand the science behind it, but like I said before if I eat too much before I train then I feel like my body is still processing all of the food it has been given. The result is I feel sluggish and slow. It’s funny because I’ve even tried waiting several hours after my most recent (higher carb) meal, but to me nothing beats a light meal like a p shake and fruit…then go blast it 45m later.

Bango

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[quote]jimmybango wrote:
Artem wrote:
ryanw2007 wrote:
Artem wrote:
I prefer training at night, but it will sometimes be a bit harder to get to sleep - not always though.
Go for it. It beats training in the morning any day.

can i ask why it beats training in the morning? please give him a reason not just because…

Personally, I’m weaker in the morning. I just like lifting better at night. That’s just me. There’s no science behind it.

Also, wouldn’t it be better to have time to carb up before a workout? I know glycogen is stored in the muscle until it is used though.

I’ve never liked ‘carbing up’ prior to training. I understand the science behind it, but like I said before if I eat too much before I train then I feel like my body is still processing all of the food it has been given. The result is I feel sluggish and slow. It’s funny because I’ve even tried waiting several hours after my most recent (higher carb) meal, but to me nothing beats a light meal like a p shake and fruit…then go blast it 45m later.

Bango
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To each his own, I guess. I drink whole milk and coffee on my way to the gym. not on leg day though

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[quote]ryanw2007 wrote:
Artem wrote:
I prefer training at night, but it will sometimes be a bit harder to get to sleep - not always though.
Go for it. It beats training in the morning any day.

can i ask why it beats training in the morning? please give him a reason not just because…[/quote]

I actually attended a seminar a while ago with a sleep specialist. One of the big things he does on campus is try (key work try lol) and keep teams from working out so early in the morning that a good night sleep is impossible. Anyway, he claimed that in addition to ruining your sleep, which is necessary for recovery and your nervous system to recover, working out in the morning increases the risk of injury, as your body naturally loosens up during the day.

He focused mainly on the vertebrae in the back, and something about how during the day something happens with your disks that helps prevent injury if you wait at least four hours after waking to train…sorry I don’t remember more, ironically I was sleeping through the lecture…

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[quote]timtimmah19 wrote:
ryanw2007 wrote:
Artem wrote:
I prefer training at night, but it will sometimes be a bit harder to get to sleep - not always though.
Go for it. It beats training in the morning any day.

can i ask why it beats training in the morning? please give him a reason not just because…

I actually attended a seminar a while ago with a sleep specialist. One of the big things he does on campus is try (key work try lol) and keep teams from working out so early in the morning that a good night sleep is impossible. Anyway, he claimed that in addition to ruining your sleep, which is necessary for recovery and your nervous system to recover, working out in the morning increases the risk of injury, as your body naturally loosens up during the day.

He focused mainly on the vertebrae in the back, and something about how during the day something happens with your disks that helps prevent injury if you wait at least four hours after waking to train…sorry I don’t remember more, ironically I was sleeping through the lecture…[/quote]

a good night sleep is impossible when u work out in the morning? did u mean to say that? if anything its the other way around… i have never heard of someone saying damn when i work out in the morning i can never go to sleep at night lol.

and then you say that your body naturally loosens up through the day. yes that is true cause if you measure yourself in the morning compared to the evening you will be a fraction taller at night.however i believe if you warm up properly you will loosen up enough.

injuries tend to happen when form is improper keep strict form and warm up very well and u will be fine. but this is just my opinion.

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[quote]ryanw2007 wrote:
on top of that being said if u read any of bodybuilding encyclopedia’s like arnolds he explains that working out in the morning is better then evening. …to be honest i like to train right in the middle of the day for me i get 4 meals in before i pump the iron and 4 meals in after i pump the iron. that way i gett the best of both worlds a lil bit of energy and enough meals to allow my body to recover.[/quote]

Clearly all this shows it is a subjective matter and up to each individual to determine when the best time is to train. For some that may be in the morning or others in the afternoon or at night. Just go with what works best for you, as always.

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[quote]kylec72 wrote:
ryanw2007 wrote:
on top of that being said if u read any of bodybuilding encyclopedia’s like arnolds he explains that working out in the morning is better then evening. …to be honest i like to train right in the middle of the day for me i get 4 meals in before i pump the iron and 4 meals in after i pump the iron. that way i gett the best of both worlds a lil bit of energy and enough meals to allow my body to recover.

Clearly all this shows it is a subjective matter and up to each individual to determine when the best time is to train. For some that may be in the morning or others in the afternoon or at night. Just go with what works best for you, as always.

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you obviously dont know how to read. i clearly stated I LIKE to train at that time i never said it is best to work out then. i am simply telling my opinion and how i do things. and if others decide to try parts of how i train and adapt it in their program so be it. you never know what works for me might work for someone else but not work for another. its simply a matter of opinion and that is all i am stating

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[quote]Artem wrote:
jimmybango wrote:
Artem wrote:
ryanw2007 wrote:
Artem wrote:
I prefer training at night, but it will sometimes be a bit harder to get to sleep - not always though.
Go for it. It beats training in the morning any day.

can i ask why it beats training in the morning? please give him a reason not just because…

Personally, I’m weaker in the morning. I just like lifting better at night. That’s just me. There’s no science behind it.

Also, wouldn’t it be better to have time to carb up before a workout? I know glycogen is stored in the muscle until it is used though.

I’ve never liked ‘carbing up’ prior to training. I understand the science behind it, but like I said before if I eat too much before I train then I feel like my body is still processing all of the food it has been given. The result is I feel sluggish and slow. It’s funny because I’ve even tried waiting several hours after my most recent (higher carb) meal, but to me nothing beats a light meal like a p shake and fruit…then go blast it 45m later.

Bango

To each his own, I guess. I drink whole milk and coffee on my way to the gym. not on leg day though[/quote]

Yeah, that’s rowdy bro…I wouldn’t make it through 3 warm up sets with milk curdling in my stomach.

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[quote]ryanw2007 wrote:
timtimmah19 wrote:
ryanw2007 wrote:
Artem wrote:
I prefer training at night, but it will sometimes be a bit harder to get to sleep - not always though.
Go for it. It beats training in the morning any day.

can i ask why it beats training in the morning? please give him a reason not just because…

I actually attended a seminar a while ago with a sleep specialist. One of the big things he does on campus is try (key work try lol) and keep teams from working out so early in the morning that a good night sleep is impossible. Anyway, he claimed that in addition to ruining your sleep, which is necessary for recovery and your nervous system to recover, working out in the morning increases the risk of injury, as your body naturally loosens up during the day.

He focused mainly on the vertebrae in the back, and something about how during the day something happens with your disks that helps prevent injury if you wait at least four hours after waking to train…sorry I don’t remember more, ironically I was sleeping through the lecture…

a good night sleep is impossible when u work out in the morning? did u mean to say that? if anything its the other way around… i have never heard of someone saying damn when i work out in the morning i can never go to sleep at night lol.

and then you say that your body naturally loosens up through the day. yes that is true cause if you measure yourself in the morning compared to the evening you will be a fraction taller at night.however i believe if you warm up properly you will loosen up enough.

injuries tend to happen when form is improper keep strict form and warm up very well and u will be fine. but this is just my opinion.[/quote]

Nah, what I meant was that if you wake up extremely early it’s usually somewhat difficult to get to sleep at an early enough time the night before to get in a full eight hours or so. This is by no means an absolute fact, but in college it is pretty much impossible to get to bed anytime before twelve for various reasons…mine happens to be that my roommate stays up until four am playing shit on his computer for example lol…

As far as the night after, you’re completely right: I sleep like a baby with a gallon of nyquil in me

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[quote]timtimmah19 wrote:
ryanw2007 wrote:
timtimmah19 wrote:
ryanw2007 wrote:
Artem wrote:
I prefer training at night, but it will sometimes be a bit harder to get to sleep - not always though.
Go for it. It beats training in the morning any day.

can i ask why it beats training in the morning? please give him a reason not just because…

I actually attended a seminar a while ago with a sleep specialist. One of the big things he does on campus is try (key work try lol) and keep teams from working out so early in the morning that a good night sleep is impossible. Anyway, he claimed that in addition to ruining your sleep, which is necessary for recovery and your nervous system to recover, working out in the morning increases the risk of injury, as your body naturally loosens up during the day.

He focused mainly on the vertebrae in the back, and something about how during the day something happens with your disks that helps prevent injury if you wait at least four hours after waking to train…sorry I don’t remember more, ironically I was sleeping through the lecture…

a good night sleep is impossible when u work out in the morning? did u mean to say that? if anything its the other way around… i have never heard of someone saying damn when i work out in the morning i can never go to sleep at night lol.

and then you say that your body naturally loosens up through the day. yes that is true cause if you measure yourself in the morning compared to the evening you will be a fraction taller at night.however i believe if you warm up properly you will loosen up enough.

injuries tend to happen when form is improper keep strict form and warm up very well and u will be fine. but this is just my opinion.

Nah, what I meant was that if you wake up extremely early it’s usually somewhat difficult to get to sleep at an early enough time the night before to get in a full eight hours or so. This is by no means an absolute fact, but in college it is pretty much impossible to get to bed anytime before twelve for various reasons…mine happens to be that my roommate stays up until four am playing shit on his computer for example lol…

As far as the night after, you’re completely right: I sleep like a baby with a gallon of nyquil in me
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gallon of nyquil lol that is no good… when my girl snores i just put in ear plugs maybe u should try it lol it works for me hahaha

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[quote]ryanw2007 wrote:
kylec72 wrote:
ryanw2007 wrote:
on top of that being said if u read any of bodybuilding encyclopedia’s like arnolds he explains that working out in the morning is better then evening. …to be honest i like to train right in the middle of the day for me i get 4 meals in before i pump the iron and 4 meals in after i pump the iron. that way i gett the best of both worlds a lil bit of energy and enough meals to allow my body to recover.

Clearly all this shows it is a subjective matter and up to each individual to determine when the best time is to train. For some that may be in the morning or others in the afternoon or at night. Just go with what works best for you, as always.

you obviously dont know how to read. i clearly stated I LIKE to train at that time i never said it is best to work out then. i am simply telling my opinion and how i do things. and if others decide to try parts of how i train and adapt it in their program so be it. you never know what works for me might work for someone else but not work for another. its simply a matter of opinion and that is all i am stating[/quote]

A matter of opinion is a matter of subjectivity or a subjective matter such as what I wrote. You stated how Arnold “explains that working out in the morning is better then evening.” Yet, YOU like to train in the middle of the day because YOU feel YOU “get the best of both worlds” that way. Where in my reply did I conclude you feel YOUR time of training is the best? My only conclusion was how your comments merely demonstrated why YOU (or ANYONE) should “just go with what works best for you [as in any individual]”.