Toyota Lied

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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Now that its been shown that Toyota lied and covered up about their vehicles, should we stay away from ALL rice burners?

Seing how these companies are in Asia, there’s little chance any of us would go shoot executives of these companies, if our families were killed by these death trap rice burners.

American executives have to fear that someone with a nice assault rifle is waiting for them on a dark road.

Conclusion: Buy American. Don’t buy ANY foreign crap ANYTHING, unless there’s no alternative!

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Aren’t most Toyotas made in the US? You’re gonna piss off the all the Mexicans, dude.

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That’s right! Don’t buy foreign crap when there is plenty of domestic crap.

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I have two cars, a Mitsubishi and a Dodge. The Mitsubishi is far better built.

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If you look at the ACTUAL build quality of vehicles and problems per hundered you see that ALL major auto companies are within 1-3 problems per 1000 vehicles… thats a fact…

the only ones who are not is:

Anything not european, japanese, or american… and chrystler/dodge, they suck…

The Europeans, Japanese and Americans basically are the same. Each vehicles within them bounces around a little and apart from major recalls like this that has not changed for 25+ years…

Now if we look at what consumers “think” you get very skewed results with european > Japanese > american but that is purley public perception…

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
That’s right! Don’t buy foreign crap when there is plenty of domestic crap.[/quote]

If its all ‘crap’, then why support foreign workers? Fuck 'em, they don’t care about you or me.

My point is that if someone built a domestic that did the Toyota thing, covered it up, and anyone in my family was maimed or killed…well, daddy’s gone a-huntin’…

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
That’s right! Don’t buy foreign crap when there is plenty of domestic crap.[/quote]

If its all ‘crap’, then why support foreign workers? Fuck 'em, they don’t care about you or me.

My point is that if someone built a domestic that did the Toyota thing, covered it up, and anyone in my family was maimed or killed…well, daddy’s gone a-huntin’…
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Then why support Detroit when I can support local southern workers buying cars built in local plants (like Nissan). Many foreign cars are built here.

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The best part about this is the president of toyota hasn’t formally addressed the situation of confusion and danger in the states. However, to the presidents credit he has been in switzerland attending very important meetings on efficiency while DRIVING AROUND IN AN AUDI. Talk about faith and pride in your work.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
That’s right! Don’t buy foreign crap when there is plenty of domestic crap.[/quote]

If its all ‘crap’, then why support foreign workers? Fuck 'em, they don’t care about you or me.

My point is that if someone built a domestic that did the Toyota thing, covered it up, and anyone in my family was maimed or killed…well, daddy’s gone a-huntin’…
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I don’t think you’re being realistic about how there would be a difference in this regard with domestic makers.

I had a Mercury Sable that had a brake design defect for which a recall was issued about half a week before I crashed mine on that account, without having learned of it.

Totalled the car. No injuries.

Ford would do nothing, and couldn’t get a lawyer to look into it. Was advised that this sort of thing was fought extremely vigorously by the auto makers, including by Ford in past cases, and it would be extremely difficult to get anywhere with it and with no personal injury it wasn’t worth pursuing.

I don’t recall Ford executives being murdered by vigilantes.

Of course, I’ll never pay Ford Motor Company a penny again, but that’s all the consequence they suffered: some lost sales perhaps. Same as an import company.

By the way, reportedly there are no injuries from the Toyota problem.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
That’s right! Don’t buy foreign crap when there is plenty of domestic crap.[/quote]

If its all ‘crap’, then why support foreign workers? Fuck 'em, they don’t care about you or me.

My point is that if someone built a domestic that did the Toyota thing, covered it up, and anyone in my family was maimed or killed…well, daddy’s gone a-huntin’…
[/quote]

Then why support Detroit when I can support local southern workers buying cars built in local plants (like Nissan). Many foreign cars are built here.[/quote]

The people who cover it up are in Japan. How would I hunt them?

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
That’s right! Don’t buy foreign crap when there is plenty of domestic crap.[/quote]

If its all ‘crap’, then why support foreign workers? Fuck 'em, they don’t care about you or me.

My point is that if someone built a domestic that did the Toyota thing, covered it up, and anyone in my family was maimed or killed…well, daddy’s gone a-huntin’…
[/quote]

I don’t think you’re being realistic about how there would be a difference in this regard with domestic makers.

I had a Mercury Sable that had a brake design defect for which a recall was issued about half a week before I crashed mine on that account, without having learned of it.

Totalled the car. No injuries.

Ford would do nothing, and couldn’t get a lawyer to look into it. Was advised that this sort of thing was fought extremely vigorously by the auto makers, including by Ford in past cases, and it would be extremely difficult to get anywhere with it and with no personal injury it wasn’t worth pursuing.

I don’t recall Ford executives being murdered by vigilantes.

Of course, I’ll never pay Ford Motor Company a penny again, but that’s all the consequence they suffered: some lost sales perhaps. Same as an import company.

By the way, reportedly there are no injuries from the Toyota problem.[/quote]

Would you hunt for the executives who covered up the problem, if your family had been killed?

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Would you hunt for the executives who hid that space aliens had been housed in their facility and escaped to kill your family (which in fact wasn’t killed) ?

You’re posting about “death traps” and people being killed when no one has even been injured in this Toyota matter. In other words you are hyping things up.

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it is a hachet job

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
That’s right! Don’t buy foreign crap when there is plenty of domestic crap.[/quote]

If its all ‘crap’, then why support foreign workers? Fuck 'em, they don’t care about you or me.

My point is that if someone built a domestic that did the Toyota thing, covered it up, and anyone in my family was maimed or killed…well, daddy’s gone a-huntin’…
[/quote]

Then why support Detroit when I can support local southern workers buying cars built in local plants (like Nissan). Many foreign cars are built here.[/quote]

The people who cover it up are in Japan. How would I hunt them?
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You send the executives exploding rice-cookers. You would kill a bunch of geishas. I would have to hunt YOU down and kick your teeth in for being un-american.

My Isuzu is built in Illinois and has a Chevy engine. That’s American.

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Would you hunt for the executives who hid that space aliens had been housed in their facility and escaped to kill your family (which in fact wasn’t killed) ?

You’re posting about “death traps” and people being killed when no one has even been injured in this Toyota matter. In other words you are hyping things up.[/quote]

How do you know this? And if no one has been harmed, why is the dude at Congress telling people not to drive these things?

I’m basing what I say on the premise that people don’t let their dog shit in their own yard w/o cleaning it up. Mafioso don’t commit crimes in their grandmothers’ neighborhoods. Domestics are more likely not to F the customer if the customer might be waiting for them one night with an assault rifle (can’t get those at all in Japan).

Sure the rice burners can and are built here. But the cover-up artists are in skyscrapers in Tokyo. THEY are who I have issue with. And if they’re criminals (they are) then buy from domestic criminals – you KNOW where they live.

Bloomfield Hills, Grosse Point, and Dearborn are very easy to find.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Would you hunt for the executives who hid that space aliens had been housed in their facility and escaped to kill your family (which in fact wasn’t killed) ?

You’re posting about “death traps” and people being killed when no one has even been injured in this Toyota matter. In other words you are hyping things up.[/quote]

How do you know this? And if no one has been harmed, why is the dude at Congress telling people not to drive these things?

I’m basing what I say on the premise that people don’t let their dog shit in their own yard w/o cleaning it up. Mafioso don’t commit crimes in their grandmothers’ neighborhoods. Domestics are more likely not to F the customer if the customer might be waiting for them one night with an assault rifle (can’t get those at all in Japan).

Sure the rice burners can and are built here. But the cover-up artists are in skyscrapers in Tokyo. THEY are who I have issue with. And if they’re criminals (they are) then buy from domestic criminals – you KNOW where they live.

Bloomfield Hills, Grosse Point, and Dearborn are very easy to find.
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The “dude in congress” is an Obama cronie trying to get people to buy UAW produced piles of shit.

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Why do I picture HH walking around his house with boxer shorts and half tied house coat, toting a pump action shot gun in one hand and a fifth of Jack in the other?

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HH, why don’t you provide me with the evidence that anyone HAS even been injured to at least begin to justify your ranting about people supposedly being killed and deathtraps and all this?

Each news report I have read has referred to numbers of incidents but never reported an injury. I have yet to see a claim of injury. While that doesn’t prove there can’t have been an instance somewhere, it’s highly unlikely that thee would be many injuries yet have the media fail to find example cases to hype up their stories.

Obviously you haven’t seen any injury evidence either, let alone a death report, yet you post as if you had.

As to your citing a political hack telling everyone to park their Toyotas, puh-leeze.

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[quote]Ratchet wrote:
If you look at the ACTUAL build quality of vehicles and problems per hundered you see that ALL major auto companies are within 1-3 problems per 1000 vehicles… thats a fact…

the only ones who are not is:

Anything not european, japanese, or american… and chrystler/dodge, they suck…

The Europeans, Japanese and Americans basically are the same. Each vehicles within them bounces around a little and apart from major recalls like this that has not changed for 25+ years…

Now if we look at what consumers “think” you get very skewed results with european > Japanese > american but that is purley public perception…

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I’m just wondering where you get your information from? I’ve canceled my consumer reports subscription, but from their website: “The major Japanese brands and South Korea’s Hyundai and Kia make plenty of reliable vehicles. Of the 48 models with top reliability scores, 36 were Asian. Toyota accounted for 18; Honda, eight; Nissan, four; and Hyundai/Kia and Subaru, three each.”

Being a Mercedes owner, I don’t think anyone is under the illusion that Euro cars are reliable. Ha. Fun to drive, comfortable, yes; reliable, no.

One thing I’ve noticed through purely anecdotal observation is that the American cars have many more issues not related to the inherent nature of the vehicle. Power locks stop working, sunroofs doesn’t close, headliner sags, power windows stop working, etc. My GMC rattles. The window rattles, the dash rattles, the center console rattles. No transmission slippage and still plenty of power at over 160k miles.

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[quote]JEATON wrote:
Why do I picture HH walking around his house with boxer shorts and half tied house coat, toting a pump action shot gun in one hand and a fifth of Jack in the other?[/quote]

Me and Kesha brush our teeth with a bottle of Jack. Then we look at the clock, it says ‘Tik Tok’, so we go clubbin’!! Yeah!!!