Tough Job Decision - Help!

Ok…I am concidering taking a job at UPS, my cousin is a supervisor there and could get me in, no problem. They offer great benefits, tuition reimbursement (which would be very helpful), raises etc…The problem is that you can only work 20 hours a week starting at $8.50 per hour thats only $170.00 a week BEFORE taxes, in Massachusetts that is crap and I need benefits plus union dues so im looking at even less. But they will pay up $23,000 in tuition if I stay there at least 4 years. Even if I get a raise to $10.00 an hour that will only give me $200.00 a week BEFORE taxes and other shit.

What I am asking is do you guys think it would be more beneficial to get a job at 40+ hours/w benefits and just deal with student loans when the time comes? or just suck up the lack of cash flow for the next few years and not have to pay for college and have extra time for the gym, school and girlfriend?

One side of me feels that its awsome not to have to pay the loans back, But the other side says how can I save any cash for the future with that little money coming in?

I’m all fucked up…any suggestions would be awsome.

P.S. oh yeah and Im very low on cash now so I can’t wait too long for something else

I have a friend who worked at UPS and the job your describing is called a “box handler”. The entire shift she lifted heavy boxes. You gotta decide what’s more important to you, free college, or a bad back.

[quote]thrasher wrote:
I have a friend who worked at UPS and the job your describing is called a “box handler”. The entire shift she lifted heavy boxes. You gotta decide what’s more important to you, free college, or a bad back.[/quote]

I worked at UPS for close to four years and mostly loved the job. That “bad back” comment is BS. Just lift smart, be in decent shape and you will be fine.

I had more of a problem with the hours I was working – 3 am - 9 am. Getting up that early gets old fast. And, no, I never got used to it.

Anyway, I don’t know where you got your information on tuition reimbursment; they didn’t offer that when I worked there. It was available only to supervisors(which is easy to become in four years).

I would think the part time hours would be the deciding factor in your choice. Can you live off part time hours? If not, are you willing to get a second job?

I always had a second job and it usually worked out nice. Since UPS would be like your “main job”, your other job can be a easy, gravy job. I bartended for a while. I delivered pizzas. I even worked in an after school sports program for elementary school children. Nothing too hard there, except the horrible sleep patterns.

I don’t know what shift you’re looking into at UPS, but realize with a second job you will probably have a difficult time having a normal sleep schedule.

Another thing to take into consideration is that it is a union job and all the package car drivers are union members. This means that about half of them are spoiled “union-babies”. They won’t do anything more than required, won’t give a hand, and will whine about any and everything. Of course if you only load and unload the feeder trucks(the semis) than you won’t ever deal with them.

Don’t forget about Christmas time either. Beginning towards the end of October your hours will slowly increase. The 3 weeks before Christmas you will likely be working 6-8 hours a shift. And that’s a long time to be picking up and moving around boxes. Be sure you can handle the volume the holidays bring.

Ultimately you have to decide how you want to make the money to go to school. UPS is not the only company that offers tuition reimbursement. It is a good part time job that offers benefits; if you can handle the physical aspect. I may be wrong, but I think Starbucks offer benefits to its part time employees as well; I’m not sure. I don’t know if they have a tuition reimbursement plan either.

Here are what I feel are the pros and cons of UPS employment:

Pros:
Good health coverage and other benefits for part time employment.
Union protection.
Tuition reimbursement.
A workout every workday.
Flexibilty, since it is only a part time job. Frees up the rest of your day.
UPS promotes from within so there is plenty of opportunity for advancement if you stay with the company.

Cons:
It’s only part time.
It’s union, so promotion and raises are based upon union guidelines, not necessarily performance(unless you become a non-union employee).
A workout every workday.
Working hours can be rough, depending on your shift.
Christmas season is brutal.

I loved the work and the job and planned on staying until I could get a full time position. However, I worked in southern California, a very large union area, and still had at least 3 years to wait before getting full time.

I ended up leaving for a few reasons. I got promoted at on of my other jobs. I just couldn’t handle waking up that early anymore. I planned on moving out of California soon, also.

I hope I helped some and wish you luck with your decision. Good luck with whichever route you take.

Don’t be afraid to make the wrong decision,
Toddy

Always think long term for such decisions.

And pray about it. Throwing in a little fasting won’t hurt either.

Finally, trust yourself. Your own instincts will guide you when your head is turned around and upside down. In other words, follow the advice you would give someone else in this circumstance.

Thanks guys I really appreciate the advice…

Try and find a job that is 40 hrs a week and offers tuition reimbursement. nowadays, a lot of companies offer this (mine does after 90 days of employment) and it is becoming more common. i’m not sure what type of job you are looking for but i would be willing to help guide you in the right direction, even check for opening in my company (9th largest insurer in the world). PM me and i will try to help.

I don’t know where you are in Mass, but as long as you don’t go to my alma mater, UMASS-Amherst, the rest of the UMASS system is very affordable.

And if you are a full-time student, you get health benefits. Sure, they’re not great, but you’re young. You could make the same amount working at a job on-campus.

FWIW, my cousin is doing exactly what you’re thinking about doing.

My personal advice: go to college full-time, LIVE ON CAMPUS and have a great time.

You have the rest of your life to pay off your loans- f#ck 'em. What are you worried about? You’re not going to med school for 40 Gs a year. If money is such a big problem, go to CC 2 years and then 2 years on-campus.

College has been the best part of my and my friend’s lives so far, and I wouldn’t trade for almost anything.

Good luck!