My total testosterone came in at 832 on my last test after taking test. cypionate inj for several months at just 50mg per week. I have since relocated and the new doctor is telling me that it is too high and has reduced the dosage to only 25mg per week. I have since felt the decreased drive and felt just numb overall.
Is 832 ng/dL too high for a 33 year old male? If so, what should I target?
[quote]Purekoryo wrote:
My total testosterone came in at 832 on my last test after taking test. cypionate inj for several months at just 50mg per week. I have since relocated and the new doctor is telling me that it is too high and has reduced the dosage to only 25mg per week. I have since felt the decreased drive and felt just numb overall.
Is 832 ng/dL too high for a 33 year old male? If so, what should I target?[/quote]
Its not too high… Especially if you feel well !
It’s right in the upper end of the midrange. Educate your doctor, or find a new one. Some guys feel fine at 400, some at 1000.
I asked my doctor about this, but he stated that at this level, I may have higher risk for prostate cancer, hair loss nausea, sleep apnea, etc.
Honestly, I would find a new doctor. It took me three before I was happy with one. It was a process, we both got educated on proper protocols and labs, how it all works, and what X/Y/Z means in relation to each other. The key was that I was knowledgeable before I went in, and had an idea of how I wanted things. Test, HCG, AI. Once we got educated, getting dialed in was easier.
Does he understand what that range means, and how it was established? You are paying for a service here, just like you would a mechanic, except in this case, the “car” being worked on is you. The goal of TRT is to feel better, right? Why wouldn’t you want to feel as good as you can, safely? Personally, my valley (last day before next shot) is between 700-800 (1100 top of range), which likely puts me at the upper end of the range at peak (day of/after shot). It’s not like you’re on a cycle here with TT up in the thousands - that causes problems.
It is true that TRT can make apnea worse if you are prone, the same with MPB. If you are predisposed for MPB, TRT can accelerate that. I’ve never heard of anyone getting nausea from test.
Second the above. And if you continue with this doc, ask him to show you the research supporting his belief that TRT (at any level) increases your risk of prostate cancer. Better yet, confront him with your own research
e.g.:
http://www.urosource.com/fileadmin/user_upload/european_urology/PIIS0302283806007871.pdf
http://www.age-wisely.com/pdf/testosterone-replacement-therapy-and-prostate-cancer.pdf
(Maybe your doc means it can aggravate pre-existing prostate cancer, but if so, he probably shouldn’t have you on TRT in the first place.)
As for the other concerns (hair loss, nausea, and sleep apnea), tell him let’s deal with those issues if/when the arise.
[quote]Purekoryo wrote:
I asked my doctor about this, but he stated that at this level, I may have higher risk for prostate cancer, hair loss nausea, sleep apnea, etc.[/quote]
Your Dr. is wrong - My test is mid 800’s natty - I’m 63 and have all my hair not even close to prostate cancer - my PSA is 0.2, no nausea since I quit drinking and I sleep fine
[quote]ecjim wrote:
[quote]Purekoryo wrote:
I asked my doctor about this, but he stated that at this level, I may have higher risk for prostate cancer, hair loss nausea, sleep apnea, etc.[/quote]
Your Dr. is wrong - My test is mid 800’s natty - I’m 63 and have all my hair not even close to prostate cancer - my PSA is 0.2, no nausea since I quit drinking and I sleep fine[/quote]
I highly doubt your 809 natty at 63
Well it’s possible. I had my father run labs, he’s 69, and he came back at 670 and E2 7! I wonder what his labs looked like at 25.
[quote]Macmathews wrote:
[quote]ecjim wrote:
[quote]Purekoryo wrote:
I asked my doctor about this, but he stated that at this level, I may have higher risk for prostate cancer, hair loss nausea, sleep apnea, etc.[/quote]
Your Dr. is wrong - My test is mid 800’s natty - I’m 63 and have all my hair not even close to prostate cancer - my PSA is 0.2, no nausea since I quit drinking and I sleep fine[/quote]
I highly doubt your 809 natty at 63[/quote]
It was 840 @ 61 y/o 886 @ 51 - that is when I first had it measured - I worded my response that way to show that my test has been at that level for a long time -( not just recent because of supplementation ) and I do not have any of the health issues the man’s Dr is talking about - jim
By the way, the test was done 5 days after my injection. 832 still too high? I inject weekly.
[quote]Purekoryo wrote:
By the way, the test was done 5 days after my injection. 832 still too high? I inject weekly.[/quote]
That make’s the number seem a little higher… Since your still likely at 600 or so trough…
If you feel good , blood pressure is good… Hemacrit is good, then everything seems good…