There is no way to have an intelligent discussion on this subject with all the crap being put out here.
For example does anyone know that the Geneva convention does not apply? It keeps getting brought up, but it only applies in certain conditions.
Waterboarding is the worst torture ever? A completely ignorant statement.
We went in to steal all that oil, to keep prices high, or low, or to make the oil companies money, or maybe to keep Saddam from switching to the euro, or some other crap.
Wasn’t I just attacked on another forum for making “allegations” and yet thats all I hear from the far left loons are the conspiracy allegations.
There is a big schism between us about what torture is. To me it is something that causes extreme physical pain, or permanent severe physical damage to a person. I do not believe serving a latte at room temperature is torture. Neither is waterboarding. You recover from it in seconds.
If our military does it to themselves voluntarily, I do not believe it is torture. Also I consider torture to be physical, not mental, which is basically what we do. That is why we get results when regular torture is not as successful. (And yes it is the most successful source of information we have received in this conflict.)
Oh by the way, I listened to an expert who was involved in this, and he actually mentioned how many times waterboarding was actually used. 3.
“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on
a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of
it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” – Hermann Goering[/quote]
[quote]John S. wrote:
That is the stupidest shit I have ever read.[/quote]
Just so you know, Hermann was Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, president of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler’s designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich.
Does an illiterate kid from Iowa know more about politics, deceit and propaganda than Goering?
[quote]lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
That is the stupidest shit I have ever read.
Just so you know, Hermann was Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, president of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler’s designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich.
Does an illiterate kid from Iowa know more about politics, deceit and propaganda than Goering?[/quote]
Look at lixy trying to be all tough, and witty. She is still to much of a chicken shit to engage me.
C’mon you little pedophile - grow a nut and reply to me.
[quote]lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
That is the stupidest shit I have ever read.
Just so you know, Hermann was Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, president of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler’s designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich.
Does an illiterate kid from Iowa know more about politics, deceit and propaganda than Goering?[/quote]
I know who the fuck he is. I still think its some stupid shit. Just because some shit worked in Germany doesn’t mean it will work other places.
And if you want to start personal attacks I would be more then happy to start talking shit about you and your bitch of a nation.
Just so you know, Hermann was Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, president of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler’s designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich.[/quote]
[quote]lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
That is the stupidest shit I have ever read.
Just so you know, Hermann was Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, president of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler’s designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich.
Does an illiterate kid from Iowa know more about politics, deceit and propaganda than Goering?[/quote]
Lixy,
What other nazis do you admire? Does a free loading muslim (based on statistics from those of your ilk) living in Sweden know more than the poster from the great state of Iowa?
By the way, how was your trip to Sudan? I’m still waiting for your bird’s eye view report.
Please get back to me on your list of admired nazis at least.
[quote]Tokoya wrote:
lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
That is the stupidest shit I have ever read.
Just so you know, Hermann was Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, president of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler’s designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich.
Does an illiterate kid from Iowa know more about politics, deceit and propaganda than Goering?
Lixy,
What other nazis do you admire? Does a free loading muslim (based on statistics from those of your ilk) living in Sweden know more than the poster from the great state of Iowa?
By the way, how was your trip to Sudan? I’m still waiting for your bird’s eye view report.
Please get back to me on your list of admired nazis at least.
[quote]John S. wrote:
Tokoya wrote:
lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
That is the stupidest shit I have ever read.
Just so you know, Hermann was Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, president of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler’s designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich.
Does an illiterate kid from Iowa know more about politics, deceit and propaganda than Goering?
Lixy,
What other nazis do you admire? Does a free loading muslim (based on statistics from those of your ilk) living in Sweden know more than the poster from the great state of Iowa?
By the way, how was your trip to Sudan? I’m still waiting for your bird’s eye view report.
Please get back to me on your list of admired nazis at least.
You damn right the great state of Iowa.[/quote]
Well said, Hawkeye, on the 161st anniversary of statehood!