[quote]Alpha wrote:
Did you pull these with the rounded upper back (“Lats in your pocket”) form from the video you posted a little while back? Ever since I watched that on here, I have been curious to try it and see if it helps. Wanted you opinion[/quote]
Well, I have been reading your posts on here since I was 148 lbs in 2006. I am honored that you would ask me to offer up any type of opinion on my experience.
As you can tell, I have been struggling with form because I was hasty with my rep PRs, but I found that I didn’t consciously have to cue my lats to my pockets after all.
I moved my belt a bit higher, and I noticed that it was pinching the hell out of my skin over my lats. (I am a skinny fat 215 right now, and turning into a fat 225. I’ve got some meat back there to be pinched.) This, while giving me a burning sensation during each rep, let me know that I was flexing the right muscles.
When I get down to grab the bar, my lats seem to naturally fire. I think it is to make up for my “lack of mobility”, so needless to say, I think that I am pretty much stuck with round back deadlifting. I have been trying to arch as hard as possible though, and I am going to deload for 6 months to try my best to fix it.
I am starting to think that conventional guys with “regular people” genetics are meant to have a bit of a rounded back. The only people I see pulling huge weights with flat backs are on youtube.
A lot of the best conventional deadlifters in the world have rounded backs like that video shows as well. Not all of them, but a good portion of them.
I think the most important part of what I am learning is that:
- You should “arch” like a mofo, regardless of what your back actually looks like. The starting position should be as flat as you can make the low back, and your low back should stay there until lockout. Upper back can round, especially if you are a “push the ground away” guy.
(Some of us genetically have more rounded postures than others. This does not necessarily mean that you have poor mobility or flexibility. You just need to engage the right musculature, and let your body distribute the forces to where it is naturally going to handle it. That is not to say that you should dismiss good form though, just that you need to be conscious of how your body is built and what you are capable of.)
- You flex the shit out of your lats.
(They span the back and by flexing you not only bring “your lats into your pockets” but you are also pulling your lumbar spine into a flat position as the lats connect to your sacrum, hips/pelvis, and spinous processes. Less ROM, flatter back in my own theory.)
- You valsalva. This actually helps me fire my lats harder for some reason. It is also wonderful for other obvious reasons.
(Stability, belt pressure, etc…)
- You need to avoid hitching.
(In my experience, less rounding in the low back means less hitching. Less hitching therefore means less rounding int he low back. Less hitching also seems to mean more glutes/hams are involved. More muscles means stronger lifts, right?)
Here is the video of that set though.
As you can see, my form is still not optimal, but it is getting better considering that one of those reps, I got out of the groove (never knew what that was until it happened a few times recently), and that it was the heaviest set for more than 1 rep that I have ever done.
I am thinking that a good deload with emphasis on form and a slow buildup back to my current numbers is just what I need.
I hope this answers your questions. I know it turned out to be a mini rant, but I just got excited haha.
Thanks for taking an interest man.