This is how it’s gonna go down in Philly:
[quote]Bujo wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t understand this response. This isn’t about the “end of days” (A concept the non-religious seem to have an issue with). It is about what the fuck would YOU do if all of the lights went out and how long do you think you could make it?
I guess I just can’t understand blowing this off completely as if it isn’t a risk when scientists are now saying it is.
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It’s the reason why the lights go out, that I have issues with. Most of them being hype and sensationalism used to generate ratings for the Discovery channel. Life has managed to survive on this planet for 3.4-3.5 billion years. Since the Cambrian explosion we have been able to track extinction events every 25-30 million years. And yet life continues. I think it’s futile to plan for the next extinction event, especially if we don’t even know which way it’s going to come at us from.
Look, I’ve been thru plenty of hurricanes and tornadoes. Going two weeks without power isn’t a major issue for me. Food, fuel, guns, and ammo are all squared away. Water is easy enough to come by. Completely loosing my home would put a kink in my emergency plans. A tidal wave or major flooding would also really screw over any and all preparations I’ve made.
What I don’t get is how serious a discussion this is supposed to be?
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Honestly? As serious as the posters here could allow it to be. I was really trying to see if everyone was just brushing the entire idea off as impossible or if any here had considered the possibilities.
If very few here have even thought of it, then this is just going to be a bunch of jokes.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bujo wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t understand this response. This isn’t about the “end of days” (A concept the non-religious seem to have an issue with). It is about what the fuck would YOU do if all of the lights went out and how long do you think you could make it?
I guess I just can’t understand blowing this off completely as if it isn’t a risk when scientists are now saying it is.
[/quote]
It’s the reason why the lights go out, that I have issues with. Most of them being hype and sensationalism used to generate ratings for the Discovery channel. Life has managed to survive on this planet for 3.4-3.5 billion years. Since the Cambrian explosion we have been able to track extinction events every 25-30 million years. And yet life continues. I think it’s futile to plan for the next extinction event, especially if we don’t even know which way it’s going to come at us from.
Look, I’ve been thru plenty of hurricanes and tornadoes. Going two weeks without power isn’t a major issue for me. Food, fuel, guns, and ammo are all squared away. Water is easy enough to come by. Completely loosing my home would put a kink in my emergency plans. A tidal wave or major flooding would also really screw over any and all preparations I’ve made.
What I don’t get is how serious a discussion this is supposed to be?
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Honestly? As serious as the posters here could allow it to be. I was really trying to see if everyone was just brushing the entire idea off as impossible or if any here had considered the possibilities.
If very few here have even thought of it, then this is just going to be a bunch of jokes.[/quote]
To me this is kind of like insurance health, life, short term and long term disability etc.
Who plans for the future? Who keeps a plan for when the bad shit comes down?
A lot of people do but as America got more and more civilized and industrial we moved away from our “roots”.
Hate to say it X, but you know what is going to end the human civilization is Plague. The smallest life form on earth will take out the dominate.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bujo wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t understand this response. This isn’t about the “end of days” (A concept the non-religious seem to have an issue with). It is about what the fuck would YOU do if all of the lights went out and how long do you think you could make it?
I guess I just can’t understand blowing this off completely as if it isn’t a risk when scientists are now saying it is.
[/quote]
It’s the reason why the lights go out, that I have issues with. Most of them being hype and sensationalism used to generate ratings for the Discovery channel. Life has managed to survive on this planet for 3.4-3.5 billion years. Since the Cambrian explosion we have been able to track extinction events every 25-30 million years. And yet life continues. I think it’s futile to plan for the next extinction event, especially if we don’t even know which way it’s going to come at us from.
Look, I’ve been thru plenty of hurricanes and tornadoes. Going two weeks without power isn’t a major issue for me. Food, fuel, guns, and ammo are all squared away. Water is easy enough to come by. Completely loosing my home would put a kink in my emergency plans. A tidal wave or major flooding would also really screw over any and all preparations I’ve made.
What I don’t get is how serious a discussion this is supposed to be?
[/quote]
Honestly? As serious as the posters here could allow it to be. I was really trying to see if everyone was just brushing the entire idea off as impossible or if any here had considered the possibilities.
If very few here have even thought of it, then this is just going to be a bunch of jokes.[/quote]
To me this is kind of like insurance health, life, short term and long term disability etc.
Who plans for the future? Who keeps a plan for when the bad shit comes down?
A lot of people do but as America got more and more civilized and industrial we moved away from our “roots”.
Hate to say it X, but you know what is going to end the human civilization is Plague. The smallest life form on earth will take out the dominate. [/quote]
Hazmat suit, AK 47 and Rations - Check
End of the world and I’m killing everything moving inside of Houston. Stay in your homes boyz and girlz. Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, Loudog is looting up everything.
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bujo wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t understand this response. This isn’t about the “end of days” (A concept the non-religious seem to have an issue with). It is about what the fuck would YOU do if all of the lights went out and how long do you think you could make it?
I guess I just can’t understand blowing this off completely as if it isn’t a risk when scientists are now saying it is.
[/quote]
It’s the reason why the lights go out, that I have issues with. Most of them being hype and sensationalism used to generate ratings for the Discovery channel. Life has managed to survive on this planet for 3.4-3.5 billion years. Since the Cambrian explosion we have been able to track extinction events every 25-30 million years. And yet life continues. I think it’s futile to plan for the next extinction event, especially if we don’t even know which way it’s going to come at us from.
Look, I’ve been thru plenty of hurricanes and tornadoes. Going two weeks without power isn’t a major issue for me. Food, fuel, guns, and ammo are all squared away. Water is easy enough to come by. Completely loosing my home would put a kink in my emergency plans. A tidal wave or major flooding would also really screw over any and all preparations I’ve made.
What I don’t get is how serious a discussion this is supposed to be?
[/quote]
Honestly? As serious as the posters here could allow it to be. I was really trying to see if everyone was just brushing the entire idea off as impossible or if any here had considered the possibilities.
If very few here have even thought of it, then this is just going to be a bunch of jokes.[/quote]
To me this is kind of like insurance health, life, short term and long term disability etc.
Who plans for the future? Who keeps a plan for when the bad shit comes down?
A lot of people do but as America got more and more civilized and industrial we moved away from our “roots”.
Hate to say it X, but you know what is going to end the human civilization is Plague. The smallest life form on earth will take out the dominate. [/quote]
Hazmat suit, AK 47 and Rations - Check
End of the world and I’m killing everything moving inside of Houston. Stay in your homes boyz and girlz. Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, Loudog is looting up everything.[/quote]
If you can withstand the first wave of the plague that kills 90% of the earth, then you can be king.
Well, seeing as this is all for discussion purposes, I’m going to say that your best bet is remote areas in northern Canada and possibly the midwestern states.
As others have pointed out, Canada has large cities. However, most densely populated areas are clustered together, and would act as bottlenecks for those fleeing nearby. It would be pretty difficult for the population of say, Philadelphia for example, to filter out through the shitshow that would be New York or Michigan, let alone southern Ontario or Quebec. Fleeing to the midwest would be similar, as only those densely populated areas nearby wouldn’t have these other large cities to bypass.
The second reason is that even for those large cities near a sparsely populated area, the people would need to have sufficient ability to reach them. Assuming a full tank of gas, the average refugee could go 500kms (300 miles) without having to fill up, as driving conditions would be less than optimal. This assumes that most people are prepared with a full tank, and are more focused on fleeing than fighting, which probably won’t be the case.
At this point in time, fuel supplies in the area would be low, and there would be difficulty for most to access them. Running low on fuel and having difficulty securing more, a lot of people would probably try and hunker down somewhere safe until things settled down.
So most people would end up in an area around 500km’s away from a big city, because who are we kidding, how many are able to ruck another 100km. Sure, over time some would slowly spread out, but by then it would be more likely thousands rather than millions.
This would leave most of Canada, and good chunks of Montanna, North Dakota, Idaho, and Wyoming with a population density of less than a person per square mile, and plenty of fishing and hunting.
Bottom line, come live near me, I need a decent training partner.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bujo wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t understand this response. This isn’t about the “end of days” (A concept the non-religious seem to have an issue with). It is about what the fuck would YOU do if all of the lights went out and how long do you think you could make it?
I guess I just can’t understand blowing this off completely as if it isn’t a risk when scientists are now saying it is.
[/quote]
It’s the reason why the lights go out, that I have issues with. Most of them being hype and sensationalism used to generate ratings for the Discovery channel. Life has managed to survive on this planet for 3.4-3.5 billion years. Since the Cambrian explosion we have been able to track extinction events every 25-30 million years. And yet life continues. I think it’s futile to plan for the next extinction event, especially if we don’t even know which way it’s going to come at us from.
Look, I’ve been thru plenty of hurricanes and tornadoes. Going two weeks without power isn’t a major issue for me. Food, fuel, guns, and ammo are all squared away. Water is easy enough to come by. Completely loosing my home would put a kink in my emergency plans. A tidal wave or major flooding would also really screw over any and all preparations I’ve made.
What I don’t get is how serious a discussion this is supposed to be?
[/quote]
Honestly? As serious as the posters here could allow it to be. I was really trying to see if everyone was just brushing the entire idea off as impossible or if any here had considered the possibilities.
If very few here have even thought of it, then this is just going to be a bunch of jokes.[/quote]
To me this is kind of like insurance health, life, short term and long term disability etc.
Who plans for the future? Who keeps a plan for when the bad shit comes down?
A lot of people do but as America got more and more civilized and industrial we moved away from our “roots”.
Hate to say it X, but you know what is going to end the human civilization is Plague. The smallest life form on earth will take out the dominate. [/quote]
Hazmat suit, AK 47 and Rations - Check
End of the world and I’m killing everything moving inside of Houston. Stay in your homes boyz and girlz. Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, Loudog is looting up everything.[/quote]
If you can withstand the first wave of the plague that kills 90% of the earth, then you can be king.[/quote]
Ah but see I’m already King. I just haven’t decided to notify my loyal subjects that they are under my rule. Long Live Loudog.
Actually, I’m screwed. I have 4 kids in school and a wife that teaches. Somebody is bringing something home!! Either our immune system is above avg and we can withstand or we are all carriers and die quickly.
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bujo wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t understand this response. This isn’t about the “end of days” (A concept the non-religious seem to have an issue with). It is about what the fuck would YOU do if all of the lights went out and how long do you think you could make it?
I guess I just can’t understand blowing this off completely as if it isn’t a risk when scientists are now saying it is.
[/quote]
It’s the reason why the lights go out, that I have issues with. Most of them being hype and sensationalism used to generate ratings for the Discovery channel. Life has managed to survive on this planet for 3.4-3.5 billion years. Since the Cambrian explosion we have been able to track extinction events every 25-30 million years. And yet life continues. I think it’s futile to plan for the next extinction event, especially if we don’t even know which way it’s going to come at us from.
Look, I’ve been thru plenty of hurricanes and tornadoes. Going two weeks without power isn’t a major issue for me. Food, fuel, guns, and ammo are all squared away. Water is easy enough to come by. Completely loosing my home would put a kink in my emergency plans. A tidal wave or major flooding would also really screw over any and all preparations I’ve made.
What I don’t get is how serious a discussion this is supposed to be?
[/quote]
Honestly? As serious as the posters here could allow it to be. I was really trying to see if everyone was just brushing the entire idea off as impossible or if any here had considered the possibilities.
If very few here have even thought of it, then this is just going to be a bunch of jokes.[/quote]
To me this is kind of like insurance health, life, short term and long term disability etc.
Who plans for the future? Who keeps a plan for when the bad shit comes down?
A lot of people do but as America got more and more civilized and industrial we moved away from our “roots”.
Hate to say it X, but you know what is going to end the human civilization is Plague. The smallest life form on earth will take out the dominate. [/quote]
Hazmat suit, AK 47 and Rations - Check
End of the world and I’m killing everything moving inside of Houston. Stay in your homes boyz and girlz. Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, Loudog is looting up everything.[/quote]
If you can withstand the first wave of the plague that kills 90% of the earth, then you can be king.[/quote]
Ah but see I’m already King. I just haven’t decided to notify my loyal subjects that they are under my rule. Long Live Loudog.
Actually, I’m screwed. I have 4 kids in school and a wife that teaches. Somebody is bringing something home!! Either our immune system is above avg and we can withstand or we are all carriers and die quickly.[/quote]
LOl yea man kids are the big time carrier, your screwed.
I can keep the court in order for you.
Boats people.
Desalination kits for unlimited fresh water, most have a built in carbon filter too.
Initial bait would be easy to snag, then just cut up some of the fish you catch for ongoing bait
The oceans are huge…plenty of space to exist.
Maybe hijack a sail boat considering gasoline or install solar panels and anchor every few miles to recharge. Slow going but doable.
Bring dried fruits, dirt trays and tomato and pepper seeds…
Keep guns onboard for self defense and occassional raids…
I think pirates have the upper hand in this situation. Given modern technological advances allowing salt water to become potable you just can’t go wrong with an ocean full of fish, some dried fruit and a little boat deck garden. And your favorite piece of ass.
Bring some friends and sail to some of those little uninhabited Caribbean Islands. With the ability to create fresh water there is no reason why you can’t colonize one of them and make it your own. Re-plant your gardens and also enjoy the local tropical fruits growing naturally.
If someone beats you to it make a deal or put on your pirate persona and take that bitch by force, then you can restore your own order while the mainland burns and sorts itself out.
^ The boat trip sounds Nice, some may survive using this plan. But if any sailing is not like driving a car or navigating a power boat. It does take training that the majority don’t have. Not to mention the few boats compared to people.
So what is the main idea behind this thread. How to survive a disaster of what form?
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ The boat trip sounds Nice, some may survive using this plan. But if any sailing is not like driving a car or navigating a power boat. It does take training that the majority don’t have. Not to mention the few boats compared to people.
So what is the main idea behind this thread. How to survive a disaster of what form? [/quote]
And what do you do during a Hurricane in a boat?
^ Pray
Going to Africa.
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ Pray[/quote]
Yea and you are not going to get a forecast or weather advisory, so if you are on a boat you better be better than the Skipper or your ass may be Giliganed.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ Pray[/quote]
Yea and you are not going to get a forecast or weather advisory, so if you are on a boat you better be better than the Skipper or your ass may be Giliganed.[/quote]
Take a page out of the movie’s playbook and go underwater. Pray you don’t encounter any volcanoes, though.
[quote]Rodimus Black wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ Pray[/quote]
Yea and you are not going to get a forecast or weather advisory, so if you are on a boat you better be better than the Skipper or your ass may be Giliganed.[/quote]
Take a page out of the movie’s playbook and go underwater. Pray you don’t encounter any volcanoes, though.[/quote]
Well I always thought growing up Kill skipper and the professor is Gay.
Giligan has some fine ass woman on a tropical island, WHY the fuck you trying to get off?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ The boat trip sounds Nice, some may survive using this plan. But if any sailing is not like driving a car or navigating a power boat. It does take training that the majority don’t have. Not to mention the few boats compared to people.
So what is the main idea behind this thread. How to survive a disaster of what form? [/quote]
And what do you do during a Hurricane in a boat?[/quote] I suppose this could happen but I still think the open ocean gives you a better chance for survival than a post apoplyctic mainland.
When the weather gets choppy I suppose you could just move. Hurricanes have some fast circular winds but the storm systems themselves don’t move all that fast. You could outrun them, especially in a sailboat.
Just unfurl and it will keep you one step ahead of itself. Large waves may slow you down but hey, you need some excitement after months on the sea. Plus you would ideally have taken over an island at this point and while you could experience some serious wave lashings, Islands are not massive enough to well up massive quantities of water surges.
And you’re already living primitively, it’s not like the hurricane would cost you much after it passed.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Rodimus Black wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ Pray[/quote]
Yea and you are not going to get a forecast or weather advisory, so if you are on a boat you better be better than the Skipper or your ass may be Giliganed.[/quote]
Take a page out of the movie’s playbook and go underwater. Pray you don’t encounter any volcanoes, though.[/quote]
Well I always thought growing up Kill skipper and the professor is Gay.
Giligan has some fine ass woman on a tropical island, WHY the fuck you trying to get off?[/quote]
Exactly. Kill Skipper and the professor. Make Ginger, MaryAnn, and the millionaire’s wife your bitchez. Make the millionaire your servant. Win.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Rodimus Black wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ Pray[/quote]
Yea and you are not going to get a forecast or weather advisory, so if you are on a boat you better be better than the Skipper or your ass may be Giliganed.[/quote]
Take a page out of the movie’s playbook and go underwater. Pray you don’t encounter any volcanoes, though.[/quote]
Well I always thought growing up Kill skipper and the professor is Gay.
Giligan has some fine ass woman on a tropical island, WHY the fuck you trying to get off?[/quote]
I will have to wish you guys the best. I’m one of those that is up in the years has some elderly I would have to watch over. So I will be stuck. I will take up some land with 20 family members and protect that shyt like “Bonanza” until the end comes. AR-15 check, Arsenal AK variant check, Glock 20 & 17 check, check. Not sure how the rest of the family will be packing.