Too Soon?

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]GirthBrooks wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

you are arbitrarily redefining reality and comparing two scenarios that are not at all related in order to justify your pathetic-ness

yes we are breaking the law, but we are not cheating… there is a difference even though you refuse to acknowledge it.

why not compete in an untested show like you should? is it because you know you cant stack up to them?

it would be like anyone who is not retarded… competing in the special Olympics. I think they made a movie about that. [/quote]

Arbitrarily redefining reality? How do you figure? You clearly don’t understand what “comparison” means so let me give you the remedial version as it relates to this discussion: comparing two scenarios and noting differences and similarities. If it was the same thing, it wouldn’t be a comparison at all. Are you too stupid to grasp such a concept?

And how are you not being a hypocrite? You say breaking the law is OK, but breaking contest rules- NO NO! (And technically it’s not breaking rules when you’re on nothing and it’s been out of your system for some time.) You are the walking epitome of hypocrites everywhere. Do you think it’s somehow different because you call it BREAKING the law instead of CHEATING the law? It’s the same thing and that’s how YOU are justifying it in YOUR head.

Competing in this show has nothing to do with not being able to ‘stack up’ or whatever it was you said. I had originally set out for an untested show in November, but it’s a different organization (obviously) than the one my friend is in. I’m still going to try to do that show, but I have to approach it very differently now. My friend is not ready to compete at that level so I agreed to do this one- FOR my friend. It’s not for me. And I’ve seen the guys in this category from last years show and believe me they are very much on par with the IFBB version of this category. I could post side by side pics and you would not be able to tell who was and wasn’t clean. So who’s to say those guys even were clean? Afterall, Albuterol is not on the banned substance list. So would that make them clean? Why or why not?[/quote]

All that text and the douche still can’t tell the difference between breaking the law and cheating in a contest. Could probably explain it again and he still won’t get it.

Ah well, it’ll be funny when he doesn’t win the contest even with his cheating. A career in bodybuilding is not on the cards.[/quote]

lol, this coming from the kid who has ran one, or now TWO? cycles? Thanks, I’ll really take your advice to heart. Your career bodybuilding advice, to heart. If I ever want lactating tits, I know who to come talk to. Thanks champ.
Seriously, you could not have refuted any of my points any better than that.

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
The difference is that one scenario involves a competition with your fellow man, the other does not. It’s an important distinction. Maybe all that meth is clouding your judgement.[/quote]

Your profile pictures are hilarious. Nobody actually takes your advice do they? I mean if anyone does, hopefully they look at your pictures first so they can decide what NOT to do. Have you ever used anabolics before? If you have- damn.
Strong meth reference to nobody talking about meth at all. Keep your valid, relevant, coherent points coming.

[quote]GirthBrooks wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
The difference is that one scenario involves a competition with your fellow man, the other does not. It’s an important distinction. Maybe all that meth is clouding your judgement.[/quote]

Your profile pictures are hilarious. Nobody actually takes your advice do they? I mean if anyone does, hopefully they look at your pictures first so they can decide what NOT to do. Have you ever used anabolics before? If you have- damn.
Strong meth reference to nobody talking about meth at all. Keep your valid, relevant, coherent points coming.[/quote]

no anabolics. champ.

[quote]GirthBrooks wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
The difference is that one scenario involves a competition with your fellow man, the other does not. It’s an important distinction. Maybe all that meth is clouding your judgement.[/quote]

Your profile pictures are hilarious. Nobody actually takes your advice do they? I mean if anyone does, hopefully they look at your pictures first so they can decide what NOT to do. Have you ever used anabolics before? If you have- damn.
Strong meth reference to nobody talking about meth at all. Keep your valid, relevant, coherent points coming.[/quote]

whether or not you’re impressed with my physique has nothing to do with your failure to understand a basic ethical question. The meth is a reference to the fact that you actually felt in another thread that it was relevant to anyone on this site how long it takes meth to clear the system.

[quote]GirthBrooks wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]GirthBrooks wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

you are arbitrarily redefining reality and comparing two scenarios that are not at all related in order to justify your pathetic-ness

yes we are breaking the law, but we are not cheating… there is a difference even though you refuse to acknowledge it.

why not compete in an untested show like you should? is it because you know you cant stack up to them?

it would be like anyone who is not retarded… competing in the special Olympics. I think they made a movie about that. [/quote]

Arbitrarily redefining reality? How do you figure? You clearly don’t understand what “comparison” means so let me give you the remedial version as it relates to this discussion: comparing two scenarios and noting differences and similarities. If it was the same thing, it wouldn’t be a comparison at all. Are you too stupid to grasp such a concept?

And how are you not being a hypocrite? You say breaking the law is OK, but breaking contest rules- NO NO! (And technically it’s not breaking rules when you’re on nothing and it’s been out of your system for some time.) You are the walking epitome of hypocrites everywhere. Do you think it’s somehow different because you call it BREAKING the law instead of CHEATING the law? It’s the same thing and that’s how YOU are justifying it in YOUR head.

Competing in this show has nothing to do with not being able to ‘stack up’ or whatever it was you said. I had originally set out for an untested show in November, but it’s a different organization (obviously) than the one my friend is in. I’m still going to try to do that show, but I have to approach it very differently now. My friend is not ready to compete at that level so I agreed to do this one- FOR my friend. It’s not for me. And I’ve seen the guys in this category from last years show and believe me they are very much on par with the IFBB version of this category. I could post side by side pics and you would not be able to tell who was and wasn’t clean. So who’s to say those guys even were clean? Afterall, Albuterol is not on the banned substance list. So would that make them clean? Why or why not?[/quote]

All that text and the douche still can’t tell the difference between breaking the law and cheating in a contest. Could probably explain it again and he still won’t get it.

Ah well, it’ll be funny when he doesn’t win the contest even with his cheating. A career in bodybuilding is not on the cards.[/quote]

lol, this coming from the kid who has ran one, or now TWO? cycles? Thanks, I’ll really take your advice to heart. Your career bodybuilding advice, to heart. If I ever want lactating tits, I know who to come talk to. Thanks champ.
Seriously, you could not have refuted any of my points any better than that. [/quote]

ooh I love the connection between number of cycles and knowing what cheating is.

if I ever need advice on how to be a cheating little bitch, I’ll know who to talk to.

Thanks. I’m not calling you champ because you’re not going to win anything.

[quote]GirthBrooks wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

you are arbitrarily redefining reality and comparing two scenarios that are not at all related in order to justify your pathetic-ness

yes we are breaking the law, but we are not cheating… there is a difference even though you refuse to acknowledge it.

why not compete in an untested show like you should? is it because you know you cant stack up to them?

it would be like anyone who is not retarded… competing in the special Olympics. I think they made a movie about that. [/quote]

Arbitrarily redefining reality? How do you figure? You clearly don’t understand what “comparison” means so let me give you the remedial version as it relates to this discussion: comparing two scenarios and noting differences and similarities. If it was the same thing, it wouldn’t be a comparison at all. Are you too stupid to grasp such a concept?

And how are you not being a hypocrite? You say breaking the law is OK, but breaking contest rules- NO NO! (And technically it’s not breaking rules when you’re on nothing and it’s been out of your system for some time.) You are the walking epitome of hypocrites everywhere. Do you think it’s somehow different because you call it BREAKING the law instead of CHEATING the law? It’s the same thing and that’s how YOU are justifying it in YOUR head.

Competing in this show has nothing to do with not being able to ‘stack up’ or whatever it was you said. I had originally set out for an untested show in November, but it’s a different organization (obviously) than the one my friend is in. I’m still going to try to do that show, but I have to approach it very differently now. My friend is not ready to compete at that level so I agreed to do this one- FOR my friend. It’s not for me. And I’ve seen the guys in this category from last years show and believe me they are very much on par with the IFBB version of this category. I could post side by side pics and you would not be able to tell who was and wasn’t clean. So who’s to say those guys even were clean? Afterall, Albuterol is not on the banned substance list. So would that make them clean? Why or why not?[/quote]

boy you got it bad… alright, well…

when you are out partying with your buddies hi-fiving and knocking back beers (assuming you actually win, though the fact that you feel the need to cheat implies that you have a lack of confidence in your capabilities)… just know that your success (again assuming) means absolutely nothing

I hope that you are the type who can take pride in empty victory

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

boy you got it bad… alright, well…

when you are out partying with your buddies hi-fiving and knocking back beers (assuming you actually win, though the fact that you feel the need to cheat implies that you have a lack of confidence in your capabilities)… just know that your success (again assuming) means absolutely nothing

I hope that you are the type who can take pride in empty victory[/quote]

Success means absolutely everything.

Nothing else matters, nobody cares how you win, just that you win.

Ethics have no place in real life. I’m sorry, but if you aren’t cheating you aren’t trying. If you want sympathy for the fact that you competed the ‘right way’ only to lose,you won’t find it on this planet. Well, maybe you might get some words of encouragement on an internet forum, for what that’s worth.

Are you Bonez?

I wish Bonez would come back. That guy talked some sense.

[quote]BUDs wrote:
It cost 50 bucks for a blood test without insurance[/quote]

Sound advice.

[quote]onetwonine wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

boy you got it bad… alright, well…

when you are out partying with your buddies hi-fiving and knocking back beers (assuming you actually win, though the fact that you feel the need to cheat implies that you have a lack of confidence in your capabilities)… just know that your success (again assuming) means absolutely nothing

I hope that you are the type who can take pride in empty victory[/quote]

Success means absolutely everything.

Nothing else matters, nobody cares how you win, just that you win.

Ethics have no place in real life. I’m sorry, but if you aren’t cheating you aren’t trying. If you want sympathy for the fact that you competed the ‘right way’ only to lose,you won’t find it on this planet. Well, maybe you might get some words of encouragement on an internet forum, for what that’s worth.
[/quote]

You ever see the movie Juwana Mann? That’s what the OP is doing. How exactly can you justify the OP not competing in a non-tested comp instead? Wouldn’t that simply make more sense?

[quote]onetwonine wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

boy you got it bad… alright, well…

when you are out partying with your buddies hi-fiving and knocking back beers (assuming you actually win, though the fact that you feel the need to cheat implies that you have a lack of confidence in your capabilities)… just know that your success (again assuming) means absolutely nothing

I hope that you are the type who can take pride in empty victory[/quote]

Success means absolutely everything.

Nothing else matters, nobody cares how you win, just that you win.

Ethics have no place in real life. I’m sorry, but if you aren’t cheating you aren’t trying. If you want sympathy for the fact that you competed the ‘right way’ only to lose,you won’t find it on this planet. Well, maybe you might get some words of encouragement on an internet forum, for what that’s worth.
[/quote]

while what you are saying is true, there comes a point when someone is no longer able to look at themselves in the mirror…

Op is essentially competing in the special Olympics… playing basketball in the quadriplegic league… fishing with dynamite…

see what im getting at?

yes he will win (hopefully), but will his win mean anything at all?

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
while what you are saying is true, there comes a point when someone is no longer able to look at themselves in the mirror…

Op is essentially competing in the special Olympics… playing basketball in the quadriplegic league… fishing with dynamite…

see what im getting at?

[/quote]

Where do you get your dynamite or are we not supposed to talk about sources?

I like the Special Olympics comparison. It’s not really an accomplishment and wouldn’t be rewarding if the playing field wasn’t level.

just realized I said “basketball in the quadriplegic league” lol… meant paraplegic

In the quadriplegic league would be even less challenging. Even I could win there.

Hahahahahahahahah OP.

Why dont you go play football with 5year olds, you can be the best there, too!

I’m thoroughly enjoying how everyone is likening “natural” bodybuilders to mentally handicapped children. The intelligence on this board is astounding. Again, can’t believe so many of the vets took off never to return.

[quote]GirthBrooks wrote:
I’m thoroughly enjoying how everyone is likening “natural” bodybuilders to mentally handicapped children. The intelligence on this board is astounding. Again, can’t believe so many of the vets took off never to return.[/quote]

you do understand they all had reasons that had very little/nothing to do with what goes on in the steroid forum right?

honest question:

you attempt to justify your participating in a natural show (while using steroids) by saying “pshhh everyone else is on too”…why don’t you just compete in an untested show then? Shouldn’t be any different and you won’t have to break any rules.

GirthBrooks …

Don’t guess you the old Vet Brooks are ya?

GG

[quote]GreenGoblin wrote:
GirthBrooks …

Don’t guess you the old Vet Brooks are ya?

GG[/quote]

no Brook knows better than this…