I went from about 4000 calories and over 15 weeks tapered down to ~3000, then went back up to 3300ish once I added carbs back in and lowered fats.
I did low carb the majority of the time but felt sooooooo much better when I added in carbs and dropped the fats down the last few weeks. I really think it’s wise to keep carbs as high as possible to start out and drop them as it becomes necessary. The muscle seems to just quickly disappear otherwise.
No problem
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I really think it’s wise to keep carbs as high as possible to start out and drop them as it becomes necessary. The muscle seems to just quickly disappear otherwise.
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Exactly!
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So the basic idea seems to be a 1:1 ratio of Protein to energy (Carbs or Fats) and then minimize the other energy source. If I’m getting the jist of what ya’ll are saying?
[quote]Grubes09 wrote:
So the basic idea seems to be a 1:1 ratio of Protein to energy (Carbs or Fats) and then minimize the other energy source. If I’m getting the jist of what ya’ll are saying?[/quote]
That would appear to be correct
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
[quote]Grubes09 wrote:
So the basic idea seems to be a 1:1 ratio of Protein to energy (Carbs or Fats) and then minimize the other energy source. If I’m getting the jist of what ya’ll are saying?[/quote]
That would appear to be correct[/quote]
Yes, and by minimize I’m suggesting it make up anywhere from 15-25% of your daily intake. You know, not too high and not too low, justttt right 
[quote]MODOK wrote:
[quote]earthquake wrote:
I was told to be careful about endotoxemia and “lipopolysaccharides”.
Can anyone serious about this help me out?
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LOL! Please, please tell me this wasn’t a health care “professional” that dropped those two very scary-sounding but TOTALLY IRRELEVANT TO THE TOPIC BEING DISCUSSED words.
Lipopolysaccharides are on an in nearly every cell in your body and the body of almost everything you eat. Its just a modified fatty acid ued in cell membrane structure and communication.
Endotoxemia is what you get when gram negative bacteria produce endotoxins in your body during a serious systemic infection such as bacteremia. Do you have bacteremia?
I’m dying to know how they tied these two things into eating 300 g of protein. Please fill us in on the conversation.[/quote]
This is EXACTLY what I was going to write back to this guy before I saw this post!
I read the dude’s post and was like, “WHO THE FUCK TALKED TO THIS GUY?!”
I’m so sick of various healthcare professionals and dietitians (I’m a dietitian myself) bashing high protein intake! Where does this shit come from? If someone doesn’t have renal disease, there’s no issue!
[quote]Mateus wrote:
I will add 2 things to this:
Play around with your macros. You may find that you don’t need that much protein and if so, then you are just pissing money away (pun intended). Basically, if your body doesn’t need it, can’t process it, or whatever, you will just piss it out. If you are spending money for protein powder and lots of dead animals and just pissing it out then…
The only adverse thing that I am aware of is you may be susceptible to increase kidney function (with existing underlying kidney issues) from trying to process all the proteins. In turn, it can raise your blood pressure. This doesn’t happen to most with normal kidney function. [/quote]
Great post. Although there may not be harm with relative high protein intake, the necessary amount should be eaten. Otherwise it’s a waste.
Lipopolysaccharides are molecules found ONLY in gram-negative bacteria and they are endotoxins. They create a massive immuneresponse in us because they are that foreign to us… I just can’t see how this has anything to do with eating too much protein… at all.
I must be in big trouble: I weigh 170 yet my protein intake is always 300-350g…Needless to say, my bench went up 15lbs in 4 weeks…
I must be in big trouble: I weigh 170 yet my protein intake is always 300-350g…Needless to say, my bench went up 15lbs in 4 weeks…
[quote]earthquake wrote:
I was told to be careful about endotoxemia and “lipopolysaccharides”.
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What? Are you planning on having a bunch of gram negative bacterial cells suddenly lyse all at the same time due to high protein intake?
Because I can’t see how you need to be concerned with lipopolysaccharides, which make up a large percentage of the cell walls of GN bacteria (and others). It’s made of a polysaccharide chain and lipid A, which is responsible for the toxic effects.
I mean, if you had an allergy to certain animal proteins, then maybe, because endotoxins are frequent contaminants in proteins expressed from bacteria, and there’s a certain animal protein that’s contaminated with them and could potentially cause unwanted inflammatory responses (maybe), but unless you have an actual condition, or were exposed to specific bacteria, why the fuck would anyone warn you about this?
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
[quote]Grubes09 wrote:
So the basic idea seems to be a 1:1 ratio of Protein to energy (Carbs or Fats) and then minimize the other energy source. If I’m getting the jist of what ya’ll are saying?[/quote]
That would appear to be correct[/quote]
Yes, and by minimize I’m suggesting it make up anywhere from 15-25% of your daily intake. You know, not too high and not too low, justttt right :)[/quote]
This might be majoring in the minor, but would something like a 40/30/30 split not be ideal?