Too Harsh?

[quote]Alpha wrote:
Thanks Pwnisher. That is a really good point. I still struggle with a lot of these things myself…I think we all do, but I am trying to take control of the situation and making a public declaration of such is a big step toward accountability.

I know you get this stuff from reading your blog and your training log. You live out this stuff every day. [/quote]

Thanks dude. I’m in the same boat. Most of these things were lessons learned on the path, and it just opens up your eyes once you realize it. I liked what you put out there.

[quote]Alpha wrote:
I just posted this blog over on my site: neversate.com/wrath/2015/9/22/7-random-thoughts-1 and have gotten some pushback saying that it is too harsh…I have said much more poignant and corse things in my log regularly. Does anyone feel offended by what I wrote? I am honestly confused on this one. I am not going to change it, but feedback is good. [/quote]

The people who say it’s too harsh need to do more deadlifts.

Definitely nothing wrong with that.

With regard to the “giving 100%” part, I think the important thing to remember is that it means you should give everything you can to achieve your goals, not just lifting goals or one specific thing necessarily, but give 100% to the things that mean most to you.

If someone works long hours and trains hard too (and they want to do well in both), giving 100% would be trying as hard as possible to achieve in both fields; if the goal isn’t specialized it’s not specialized… That doesn’t make it less valuable to that individual. The same is true in powerlifting - a lifter might sacrifice lbs on one lift to ensure the goal is met for the total. That’s still dedication.

Likewise, if the goal is highly specific, giving 100% to achieving that goal is the best approach. It’s a personal thing, but the principles remain.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]chris_ottawa wrote:
I don’t think it’s “too harsh”, but I don’t agree with a couple of things.

"NUMBER 2. If you are hurt, tired or for any other reason, not at 100% capacity - but choose to try anyway - NEVER use those things as a reason why you didn’t perform up to the standard you thought you should achieve. An excuse is still an excuse. People who rely on this think that doing so will somehow separate them from their poor performance, but it won’t. All it really does is make you look weak.

i.e. “I Could’ve/Should’ve/Would’ve won first, but my back has been bothering me.” Cowards blame other people and things for their shortcomings. Don’t be a coward. Be proud of your performance, learn from it, and do what is necessary to get better. You got beat because you were not the best competitor that day. Lying to yourself won’t take the sting out of the loss or make you any better of a person. "

You have to be realistic. Look at Reed who messed up his hip and still squatted a meet PR (although less than he was going for) and had to deadlift to conventional. He sounded like he was beating himself up over it, but considering the circumstances he did pretty fucking good. Or Mike Tuchscherer, who had a whole bunch of injuries that even prevented him from training lower body for a month but still managed to pull things together and place 4th at IPF worlds. Sure he didn’t either set a new WR or win, but there is nothing cowardly about blaming his injuries - it’s the truth, how any other are still at an elite level after a number of injuries?

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I don’t feel like either of those guys blamed their injuries for their performance though. A lot of Mike’s writing seem more focused on blaming the poor decisions that led him to get injured rather than the injuries themselves.

EDIT: Alpha, I feel like the only people that would consider that post harsh are the people who haven’t quite realized these things yet. It’s all true stuff. Unpleasant, but real.
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You’re right, they didn’t blame their injuries, they were disappointed that they were injured and weren’t able to do better in spite of them. I blame their injuries because there’s nothing else to blame for a sub-par performance in a situation like that, except maybe bad decisions that led to getting injured in the first place.

But like I said, mostly I agree with his blog post. There’s no use in feeling sorry for yourself, and the way I see it you have to respect guys who try and fail because of things outside of their control. If you ask me, both Reed and Mike T did great considering their situations. Being near PR levels while injured is nothing to be ashamed of, and I would say it is a valid excuse for not doing better.

[quote]Alpha wrote:
Yea, the point I was making had nothing to do with the individual’s actual performance. Injuries and other things happen. What i am stating is that, you should not go around taking about what you “Could” or “would” have done if the circumstances were ideal.

I am sure you have heard it a lot. Guys saying things like, “I would have done better, but I had a hard weight cut…” etc. The bottom line is that they did not do better, so they shouldn’t try to qualify their poor performance. or when guys try to justify how they are going to do BEFORE the comp, saying things like, “I am not at my best, so i probably will not do very well.” They think it is going to give them a way out when they do not perform well, but in reality, i think they are just trying to soften the blow to their ego rather than taking a true subjective look at what they need to do to perform better next time.

All I am saying is to be proud of the work you out there. It was your best that day. Saying that you could have done better is like having the best of intentions. It may make the individual feel better about how they did, but it doesn’t change the facts of the end result. Actions speak much louder than any excuse people give.

Anyone who reads my log knows that I am a fan of both Reed and Mike. And i don’t believe either acted like the individual I am trying to portray in the example.

As far as #7…Again, i think, you read it differently than I intended. My basic premise was to take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming others and things because you aren’t where you want to be in life.

If you are trying to be one of the best in the world, then you are going to have to sacrifice just about everything else in your life to get there. Most people are not trying to be the best in the world. They are just trying to get as good as possible in the parameters which they are not willing to sacrifice. Like you said, most people are not willing to give up certain things because they goals they set do not require it. But the best guys in the world do. Changing the way you phrase things, changes the reality of those things. This happens when an individual takes responsibility for the choices they have made… so rather than saying, “I could be the best X in the nation IF I didn’t have a full-time job.” they would say, “My desire for the safety and security of a full-time job is greater than my desire to be the best in the nation.” The best people in any field have this outlook and i am just trying to get people to shift the blame so that they can be an active participant in changing there circumstances instead of looking at themselves as a victim.

I am not saying you are wrong or that your priorities are not correct, all I am stating is that, no matter how big or small your goal is, don’t walk around blaming your circumstances or previous life choices because you are not where you want to be in life.

We can agree to disagree on this, and I mean no disrespect, but hopefully that added some clarification.[/quote]

You’re pretty much right, I can’t really argue with that. While sometimes there are obstacles that you can’t overcome no matter what you do, your results still depend on what you put into it. You have to own your own life, crying about your problems will get you nowhere.

Anyway, my whole point was that your article was not too harsh at all. The only thing is that those two points were a little bit ambiguous, but you clarified that.

[quote]chris_ottawa wrote:

You’re right, they didn’t blame their injuries, they were disappointed that they were injured and weren’t able to do better in spite of them. I blame their injuries because there’s nothing else to blame for a sub-par performance in a situation like that, except maybe bad decisions that led to getting injured in the first place.

But like I said, mostly I agree with his blog post. There’s no use in feeling sorry for yourself, and the way I see it you have to respect guys who try and fail because of things outside of their control. If you ask me, both Reed and Mike T did great considering their situations. Being near PR levels while injured is nothing to be ashamed of, and I would say it is a valid excuse for not doing better.[/quote]

I feel like we’re both in agreement that they’re acting in accordance with what Alpha wrote.

[quote]Alpha wrote:
…all I am stating is that, no matter how big or small your goal is, don’t walk around blaming your circumstances or previous life choices because you are not where you want to be in life.[/quote]

Agreed. Excuses can be valid but they really don’t matter because they don’t change the situation. Sometimes they can be detrimental if they diminish accountability, like you said. If someone is truly passionate about something, they find ways around problems and put in their best effort for their given situation. When mistakes are made, a person just needs to own up to it and keep moving forward. No excuses and no regrets.

[quote]chris_ottawa wrote:
Everyone could train 3-4 hours a day IF they don’t have a wife, kids, or a job.[/quote]

I’m not trying to debate about this but IMO saying this diminishes the work done by many people that reach a very high level. Yes some of these guys can be training 3-4 hours a day but that’s only one aspect that we’re aware of. Everything else they’re doing is probably dialed in and they’ve probably developed their entire lifestyle to support their goal. Although I wouldn’t go to that extreme myself, it’s something I admire and respect.

[quote]Alpha wrote:
I just posted this blog over on my site: neversate.com/wrath/2015/9/22/7-random-thoughts-1 and have gotten some pushback saying that it is too harsh…I have said much more poignant and corse things in my log regularly. Does anyone feel offended by what I wrote? I am honestly confused on this one. I am not going to change it, but feedback is good. [/quote]

I struggle to find what they even find to be harsh. It’s just a damn good motivational post/speech. If this article is harsh, then “I have a dream” must be too. (Spoiler, it wasn’t)

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]chris_ottawa wrote:

You’re right, they didn’t blame their injuries, they were disappointed that they were injured and weren’t able to do better in spite of them. I blame their injuries because there’s nothing else to blame for a sub-par performance in a situation like that, except maybe bad decisions that led to getting injured in the first place.

But like I said, mostly I agree with his blog post. There’s no use in feeling sorry for yourself, and the way I see it you have to respect guys who try and fail because of things outside of their control. If you ask me, both Reed and Mike T did great considering their situations. Being near PR levels while injured is nothing to be ashamed of, and I would say it is a valid excuse for not doing better.[/quote]

I feel like we’re both in agreement that they’re acting in accordance with what Alpha wrote.
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No doubt. After the clarification there’s really nothing to argue about. My comments were intended as constructive criticism (that’s what he wanted, right?) and the only negative thing I could say is that perhaps someone could take this the wrong way as some minor details could be seen as ambiguous.

Anybody who’s offended is the kind of person who really needs that kind of advice, and maybe a slap to go along with it.

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the feedback!

I’m a guy that blames one of my injuries for my bench. At the same time, I 100% agree with everything you say. I blame my injury because 3 doctors can’t figure it out, 2 mri’s, and countless xrays. However, I agree with everything you say because I figured it out. Not how to fix the problem, but how to train around the problem.

So I would say “I benched like shit today cause my arm was acting up”, which is true, but in the background I was just really pissed off at the whole situation. It’s hard to say “I did my best I could today” when I dump a weight that is 80 lbs under my max.

Bottom line, everything you said is true. I’m sure we all slip on occasion into saying the things you say, but the true Alpha lifter will not make a habit of it and man the fuck up.

I man’d the fuck up, it took me 18 months to figure out how to man the fuck up, but I did. I just need 4-6 days between when I squat to when I bench or else I can’t lift anything.