Tonino's Log

[quote]its_just_me wrote:
Here’s the update, you can put this into practice whenever you want (e.g. straight away)

Basically, now that calories have been low for some time now, you may start to experience signs of over-training. Over-training usually encompasses lack of drive/energy during workouts, lack of recovery between workouts leading to stagnant lifts/weakness, difficulty sleeping, irritability etc.

You control excessive fatigue/overtraining via managing workout volume (and spiking calories which you already are doing). So I’ll lower training volume somewhat by cutting some exercises and lowering warmup volume.

You also was talking about having elbow trouble when doing delts. This is highly likely “over-use” of the elbow joint (especially while dieting), and happens sometimes when training arms frequently or with high volume (like on this routine where you indirectly train them on separate days too). The reduction in exercises should greatly alleviate this problem.


On Chest/Back day, remove the cable rows. On shoulder/arms/core day, remove the dumbbell curls, triceps pushdowns and the situps. On leg day remove the leg curls and seated calve raises. Just do one low rep working set for squats and deadlifts, do normal sets for leg press. In other words, don’t go to close to failure for those 2 large exercises (save something in the tank).

For all sets on all days, cut down volume on warmups. So instead of doing 10-12 reps, then 8-10 or so, do 8 reps, then 5 reps, then do your work sets.

Example:

Incline Press
Set 1: 8 reps - 80lbs
Set 2: 5 reps - 105lbs
Set 3: 8 reps - 125lbs (work set)
Set 4: 8 reps 125lbs (work set)

While gaining, I would have you doing an extra set or so, but for the sake of good recovery we’ll limit it to 2.[/quote]

Thanks. I’ll apply this day-to-day, so for example, if there’s a day where I feel full of energy, I’ll push myself more (e.g. more weight, or additional sets/reps). To be honest, this past Chest/Back day felt great, and it could’ve been because of the refeed. So yesterday, I would have definitely included the Cable Rows, because I thought they worked my back very well.

[quote]its_just_me wrote:
Set/rep variables:

On leg day, swap between 3 sets of 5 (3x5), and 5 sets of 3 (5x3). Keep the load the same each set. Make sure you don’t get close to failure until at the most the last set. You’ll notice that the 5x3 day feels more manageable even though total workload is the same as the 3x5 day. For calves, swap between 2x12-15 and 3x6-8

On all other days, swap between 3x5-6 and 2x8-9. If in doubt about the loads to use, just use your 8 rep max load (or just close to the loads you were already using).

The trick is to stay away from ball busting failure, and if reaching failure, it should always be the last set.

Progression is the same. As soon as another rep is managed on each set (e.g. 3x6 on leg day, or 5x4), increase load by 2.5-5lbs and start at the lower end of reps again. On higher rep exercises like calves/abs, wait until you get to the top end of the rep range before increasing load.

Feel free to ask questions[/quote]

Ok, so the set/rep schemes you’re suggesting are for WORK sets only, correct? So I’d still perform a couple warmup sets, but using less reps than before, so I save energy in the tank.

So if I use 3x5-6 for Leg Day today, next week I’d use 5x3-4. But is this applied just to the “money” exercises… like Squats and SLDL? I’m assuming I’d want more reps with Leg Presses.

For other days (I’ll use Chest as an example), I’d do 3x5-6 work sets Friday, and then next Wednesday, I’d switch to 2x8-9.

In terms of load, I’ll decide based on how I’m feeling that day… and I’ll always base it off last workout (8-rep load most of the time).

Sound right?

[quote]Tonino wrote:

[quote]its_just_me wrote:
Here’s the update, you can put this into practice whenever you want (e.g. straight away)

Basically, now that calories have been low for some time now, you may start to experience signs of over-training. Over-training usually encompasses lack of drive/energy during workouts, lack of recovery between workouts leading to stagnant lifts/weakness, difficulty sleeping, irritability etc.

You control excessive fatigue/overtraining via managing workout volume (and spiking calories which you already are doing). So I’ll lower training volume somewhat by cutting some exercises and lowering warmup volume.

You also was talking about having elbow trouble when doing delts. This is highly likely “over-use” of the elbow joint (especially while dieting), and happens sometimes when training arms frequently or with high volume (like on this routine where you indirectly train them on separate days too). The reduction in exercises should greatly alleviate this problem.


On Chest/Back day, remove the cable rows. On shoulder/arms/core day, remove the dumbbell curls, triceps pushdowns and the situps. On leg day remove the leg curls and seated calve raises. Just do one low rep working set for squats and deadlifts, do normal sets for leg press. In other words, don’t go to close to failure for those 2 large exercises (save something in the tank).

For all sets on all days, cut down volume on warmups. So instead of doing 10-12 reps, then 8-10 or so, do 8 reps, then 5 reps, then do your work sets.

Example:

Incline Press
Set 1: 8 reps - 80lbs
Set 2: 5 reps - 105lbs
Set 3: 8 reps - 125lbs (work set)
Set 4: 8 reps 125lbs (work set)

While gaining, I would have you doing an extra set or so, but for the sake of good recovery we’ll limit it to 2.[/quote]

Thanks. I’ll apply this day-to-day, so for example, if there’s a day where I feel full of energy, I’ll push myself more (e.g. more weight, or additional sets/reps). To be honest, this past Chest/Back day felt great, and it could’ve been because of the refeed. So yesterday, I would have definitely included the Cable Rows, because I thought they worked my back very well.

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Yeah if you do feel up to doing the rows then that’s fine (the reduced rep/set volume will greatly help in this regard). If you don’t feel too fatigued on a regular basis, then just keep them in all the time.

The refeed makes a lot of difference, one of the reasons why it’s added.

I’d say keep your working sets to somewhere between 15-25 total reps/exercise…although that’s just a guide and will depend on yourself (and of course the amount of exercises/frequency). You can “get away” with less sets with squats/DL’s because of the greater loads

[quote]Tonino wrote:

[quote]its_just_me wrote:
Set/rep variables:

On leg day, swap between 3 sets of 5 (3x5), and 5 sets of 3 (5x3). Keep the load the same each set. Make sure you don’t get close to failure until at the most the last set. You’ll notice that the 5x3 day feels more manageable even though total workload is the same as the 3x5 day. For calves, swap between 2x12-15 and 3x6-8

On all other days, swap between 3x5-6 and 2x8-9. If in doubt about the loads to use, just use your 8 rep max load (or just close to the loads you were already using).

The trick is to stay away from ball busting failure, and if reaching failure, it should always be the last set.

Progression is the same. As soon as another rep is managed on each set (e.g. 3x6 on leg day, or 5x4), increase load by 2.5-5lbs and start at the lower end of reps again. On higher rep exercises like calves/abs, wait until you get to the top end of the rep range before increasing load.

Feel free to ask questions[/quote]

Ok, so the set/rep schemes you’re suggesting are for WORK sets only, correct? So I’d still perform a couple warmup sets, but using less reps than before, so I save energy in the tank.

So if I use 3x5-6 for Leg Day today, next week I’d use 5x3-4. But is this applied just to the “money” exercises… like Squats and SLDL? I’m assuming I’d want more reps with Leg Presses.

For other days (I’ll use Chest as an example), I’d do 3x5-6 work sets Friday, and then next Wednesday, I’d switch to 2x8-9.

In terms of load, I’ll decide based on how I’m feeling that day… and I’ll always base it off last workout (8-rep load most of the time).

Sound right?[/quote]

Yes correct, this applies to all work sets.

Sorry, should have clarified that for leg press, yeah do higher reps/set for that. So 1 week = 3x6/7 reps, and the other week = 2x10/11 reps (or thereabouts). So for squats/DL’s, do the lower reps/set variety (3-4 and 5-6), and the less draining ones do the higher reps/set variety.

Yeah that’s right for chest/back too. If you feel like it, you can do an extra set (like if the last set felt “easy” (e.g. 3x8 or 4x6). Generally though, it’s better to focus on load increases weekly, rather than too much volume. There is a fine cut off point between “draining” sessions and productive ones.

For loads, yeah, base it off of the 8-10 rep maxes you’ve been doing for most exercises. Say for example you managed 2 sets of 10, you’d know for sure that you’d manage 4 sets of 5/6 with the same load. Or say you did 2 sets of 6, you’d know that you’d have to cut off 5 pounds or so to manage 2 sets of 8 with the same load.

What you’re looking for is using a static load that’s around your 80% 1RM. For most people this is usually a load they can manage 6-8 reps with.

So you’ll notice that on days where you only do 5-6 reps with, or 3-4 reps, you’re using a load that would make you fail at 8 reps or so (~8RM, not maximal loads). The fatigue builds up over the sets until the last one.

A bit of trial and error’s fine.

Again to clarify for progression:

Say you’re doing 5-6 reps/set. If you manage to do 4x5 one day, don’t make too large a jump the next time (like 7 or 8 reps). So you’d maybe aim for an increase of 2-4 reps in total extra/exercise (which is only 1 rep extra/set on most exercises). Same with load progression, don’t increase it by too much.

Reason being is that the more gradual the changes, the more your body can keep up with it and make continual progress (as opposed to making big leaps, then spinning your wheels).

So by saving a few reps in the tank, or a couple of pounds in the tank, you are ensuring that next workout will be a productive/progressive one too. Example:

Scenario 1
You thought: “I could easily have managed another rep there”, then you’ll definitely get that extra rep next time (and likely the time after that…and this process will repeat for some time).

Scenario 2
You thought: “wow, my life flashed before my eyes on that last set, I think I just crapped out my kidney”, then next time, you may be lucky to get the same number again with the same load, let alone beat it…and this process can repeat week after week (you spin your wheels)


When “over-eating”, this problem becomes less of an issue.

Tuesday, 4/12/2011 (Legs)

Back Squat
Bar/15 (warmup)
105/10
135/8
165/5
165/5
165/5

Leg Press
165/15 (+10 lbs)
215/12 (+10 lbs)
255/10 (+10 lbs)

SLDL
Bar/15 (warmup)
115/10
145/5
165/5
165/5
165/5

Standing Calf Raises
95/15
155/15
205/15
235/15
235/15

Comments:
IJM - I think I applied your comments correctly. I may have performed more volume than you suggested on Leg Press and Calf Raise… but I didn’t feel overly fatigued today. Last week, I squatted 165lbs for 7 reps, then failed. This week, I squatted 165 for 3 sets of 5, and only came close to failure on my very last rep of my very last set. I cut down the warmup volume for both Squats and SLDL. Overall, today felt good.

[quote]Tonino wrote:
Tuesday, 4/12/2011 (Legs)

Back Squat
Bar/15 (warmup)
105/10
135/8
165/5
165/5
165/5

Leg Press
165/15 (+10 lbs)
215/12 (+10 lbs)
255/10 (+10 lbs)

SLDL
Bar/15 (warmup)
115/10
145/5
165/5
165/5
165/5

Standing Calf Raises
95/15
155/15
205/15
235/15
235/15

Comments:
IJM - I think I applied your comments correctly. I may have performed more volume than you suggested on Leg Press and Calf Raise… but I didn’t feel overly fatigued today. Last week, I squatted 165lbs for 7 reps, then failed. This week, I squatted 165 for 3 sets of 5, and only came close to failure on my very last rep of my very last set. I cut down the warmup volume for both Squats and SLDL. Overall, today felt good.
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That’s looks good. No problem with the leg press.

For the lower rep range when you do that next, you can add say 2.5-5lbs to those lifts without any problem.

The next time you do the higher rep range again like today (5-6), you’ll aim for an extra rep/set. Then increase load and start back at 5 reps/set again.

Stopping in to let you know I’ll keep an eye on your log. It looks like you have a perfectly decent routine going, however, this is what concerns me:

On 4/11/11 you incline benched 125 for 8 reps. Exactly two months prior, on 2/11/11, I see you incline benched 130 for 7 reps… and similar lifts elsewhere that haven’t gone up much.

I didn’t read every post in this log to see if there is some explanation, and I do know that you’re losing weight, but man… from me to you, you do not want to tread water in that novice stage forever. Nobody should expect to see huge increases all the time, but as a beginner I can’t help but wonder if you’re wasting some precious time.

I am not suggesting you rush anything, and I know nobody wants to “get fat” and I’m not recommending that either, but every guy that has reached an appreciable level of muscle mass on this website spent a good chunk of time in the beginning barreling toward the 180, 200, 220lb bodyweight milestones while getting strong along the way.

Something to think about.

[quote]mr popular wrote:
Stopping in to let you know I’ll keep an eye on your log. It looks like you have a perfectly decent routine going, however, this is what concerns me:

On 4/11/11 you incline benched 125 for 8 reps. Exactly two months prior, on 2/11/11, I see you incline benched 130 for 7 reps… and similar lifts elsewhere that haven’t gone up much.

I didn’t read every post in this log to see if there is some explanation, and I do know that you’re losing weight, but man… from me to you, you do not want to tread water in that novice stage forever. Nobody should expect to see huge increases all the time, but as a beginner I can’t help but wonder if you’re wasting some precious time.

I am not suggesting you rush anything, and I know nobody wants to “get fat” and I’m not recommending that either, but every guy that has reached an appreciable level of muscle mass on this website spent a good chunk of time in the beginning barreling toward the 180, 200, 220lb bodyweight milestones while getting strong along the way.

Something to think about.[/quote]

The truth is I DO feel as if I’ve spun my wheels and wasted precious time. I’d chalk it up to rookie mistakes, but then it sounds as if I’m just making excuses. I see a number of bulking transformations (yours included) and the one thing that most have in common is that in the beginning, they were skinny, but also very lean. I never calculated BF from the beginning, but the one thing I noticed is that I was skinny, but not relatively lean.

That’s why I’ve been on this 2 month “recomp” phase. I wanted to get down to 8-10% body fat. From that point, I’ll monitor myself weekly, and bulk upwards towards that 180 lb interim goal. During these last 2 months, you’re right, my strength has stagnated in areas, but since I’ve been in a caloric deficit, I thought that was normal.

Wednesday, 4/13/2011 (Shoulders/Arms/Abs)

Seated BB Press
Bar/12 (warmup)
75/8
95/5
110/5
110/5
110/5

Side Raises
20/15
25/10
30/12 (+1 rep) … *felt slightly better… I really think its my form, thats why I feel strain in my elbow joint when I bring the DB up

BB Curl
Bar/12
65/8
75/6
75/6
75/5

Skull Crushers
Bar/12
60/8
65/5
70/4
70/5 *not sure how, but I was able to push an extra rep on this set
70/4

Standing Alternating DB Curl
30/10 (+1 rep)
25/10
25/10 (+5 lbs)

Crunches (on Ab Crunch machine, with resistance of 30 lbs)
50 reps

Straight Leg Raises
50 reps (it took me 2 sets to get 50)

Comments-
Good day. I listened to my body, and my biceps felt as if they could use more work today, so I added the DB Curls, but triceps were exhausted after Skull Crushers (probably because they fall at the end, and take a little beating from Shoulder presses as well). Today was a “refeed” day, but i’m keeping overall calories around 2200.

[quote]Tonino wrote:

[quote]mr popular wrote:
Stopping in to let you know I’ll keep an eye on your log. It looks like you have a perfectly decent routine going, however, this is what concerns me:

On 4/11/11 you incline benched 125 for 8 reps. Exactly two months prior, on 2/11/11, I see you incline benched 130 for 7 reps… and similar lifts elsewhere that haven’t gone up much.

I didn’t read every post in this log to see if there is some explanation, and I do know that you’re losing weight, but man… from me to you, you do not want to tread water in that novice stage forever. Nobody should expect to see huge increases all the time, but as a beginner I can’t help but wonder if you’re wasting some precious time.

I am not suggesting you rush anything, and I know nobody wants to “get fat” and I’m not recommending that either, but every guy that has reached an appreciable level of muscle mass on this website spent a good chunk of time in the beginning barreling toward the 180, 200, 220lb bodyweight milestones while getting strong along the way.

Something to think about.[/quote]

The truth is I DO feel as if I’ve spun my wheels and wasted precious time. I’d chalk it up to rookie mistakes, but then it sounds as if I’m just making excuses. I see a number of bulking transformations (yours included) and the one thing that most have in common is that in the beginning, they were skinny, but also very lean. I never calculated BF from the beginning, but the one thing I noticed is that I was skinny, but not relatively lean.

That’s why I’ve been on this 2 month “recomp” phase. I wanted to get down to 8-10% body fat. From that point, I’ll monitor myself weekly, and bulk upwards towards that 180 lb interim goal. During these last 2 months, you’re right, my strength has stagnated in areas, but since I’ve been in a caloric deficit, I thought that was normal.

[/quote]

If you follow my transformation more closely you see that yes, I was lean when I was 130lbs (if you can call it lean), but I didn’t actually start bodybuilding seriously until I’d leveled out to a more average weight and average bodyfat percentage.

You’re over-thinking this, and in the grand scheme of things I believe the last thing you need to be doing is “trying to get down to 8-10% bodyfat” before gaining any remarkable amount of muscle mass.

Nothing takes as much time, commitment, and seriousness as building up an initial foundation of muscle mass. If you haven’t done it yet, you are just letting your body float around it’s happy homeostasis level of body weight and composition.

Another thing to realize: as you gain muscular bodyweight, as long as most of the weight you gain is muscle, your bodyfat percentage will steadily be going down the heavier you get.

[quote]mr popular wrote:
If you follow my transformation more closely you see that yes, I was lean when I was 130lbs (if you can call it lean), but I didn’t actually start bodybuilding seriously until I’d leveled out to a more average weight and average bodyfat percentage.

You’re over-thinking this, and in the grand scheme of things I believe the last thing you need to be doing is “trying to get down to 8-10% bodyfat” before gaining any remarkable amount of muscle mass.

Nothing takes as much time, commitment, and seriousness as building up an initial foundation of muscle mass. If you haven’t done it yet, you are just letting your body float around it’s happy homeostasis level of body weight and composition.

Another thing to realize: as you gain muscular bodyweight, as long as most of the weight you gain is muscle, your bodyfat percentage will steadily be going down the heavier you get.[/quote]

I think my biggest hurdle has been overcoming the thought of being “fat”. During my last bulk, after the first 20lbs gained, everyone commented on how I was adding muscle mass. But then as I gained another 5, everyone started commenting how my midsection was growing. This was essentially what led me to my decision to “re-comp”.

I still need to learn how to ignore the nay-sayers. I know I’m not the only one, but those closest to me basically condemn me to failure before I even start towards my goals of increased muscularity.

Regardless, in a couple weeks I plan on starting up the bulk again. I’ll make some slight adjustments based on things I’ve learned about my body during the process, but most importantly, I’ll really focus on my goals alone, and try to prevent the concept of being “fat” becoming a crutch.

Let me know when you want to start gaining, and I’ll give you some tips.

With your stats, I believe a good starting point would be around 3500 cals…and then adjust from there.

[quote]Tonino wrote:

[quote]mr popular wrote:
If you follow my transformation more closely you see that yes, I was lean when I was 130lbs (if you can call it lean), but I didn’t actually start bodybuilding seriously until I’d leveled out to a more average weight and average bodyfat percentage.

You’re over-thinking this, and in the grand scheme of things I believe the last thing you need to be doing is “trying to get down to 8-10% bodyfat” before gaining any remarkable amount of muscle mass.

Nothing takes as much time, commitment, and seriousness as building up an initial foundation of muscle mass. If you haven’t done it yet, you are just letting your body float around it’s happy homeostasis level of body weight and composition.

Another thing to realize: as you gain muscular bodyweight, as long as most of the weight you gain is muscle, your bodyfat percentage will steadily be going down the heavier you get.[/quote]

I think my biggest hurdle has been overcoming the thought of being “fat”. During my last bulk, after the first 20lbs gained, everyone commented on how I was adding muscle mass. But then as I gained another 5, everyone started commenting how my midsection was growing. This was essentially what led me to my decision to “re-comp”.

I still need to learn how to ignore the nay-sayers. I know I’m not the only one, but those closest to me basically condemn me to failure before I even start towards my goals of increased muscularity.

Regardless, in a couple weeks I plan on starting up the bulk again. I’ll make some slight adjustments based on things I’ve learned about my body during the process, but most importantly, I’ll really focus on my goals alone, and try to prevent the concept of being “fat” becoming a crutch.
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Sounds good. Listen, there is nothing wrong with cleaning things up a little once in a while and slowing down your gains while you eliminate junk from your diet, or up the cardio a bit, but there is really no reason for you to launch into a cutting diet until you’re closer to 200lbs or more (unless you do something dumb like make brownies a staple carb source and wind up truly gross). TRUST ME ON THIS ONE. I have slowed things down and “recomped” several times, but never tried an actual cut until I was over 200lbs.

And no you aren’t going to look pretty the whole way through, almost no one does unless you have (a) access to drugs, (b) excellent genetics for leanness and muscle gain, and/or (c) you are incredibly incredibly meticulous and consistent with your diet (see Kingbeef, but you can probably also lump genetics into that one too lol).

However, on the bright side, when you do things right people will notice your muscles above anything else. Adding an inch to your arm is a lot more apparent than an inch on your waist. As long as MOST of what you gain is muscle mass, you won’t become a fat guy.

Try to look at things this way: Nobody ever got fat from eating steak, eggs, vegetables, and whey protein. You just won’t ever see that happen, they aren’t food sources conducive to fat storage, period. Add a high-calorie food like peanut butter or pasta into the mix to fuel your workouts, and now you’re in a positive nitrogen balance all the time, allowing you to add a few pounds of bodyweight each month.

Let’s say hypothetically you gain 4lbs every month for 9 months. Even if HALF of that is fat (which, with a diet like the above, hard training, and occasional cardio, I doubt it), after those nine months of training hard and adding 50-100lbs to your lifts (this part is mandatory), you have still put on 36lbs of bodyweight, 18 of that being pure muscle, and you are at the same bodyfat percentage you were before.

And hey, if you had the energy and commitment to refuse seeing any excess fat storage while you gain, you could eat very clean, create an excess of calories with things like oatmeal and sweet potatoes, do cardio 4-5 days a week, and only gain 2lbs of bodyweight every month… and still wind up 24lbs heavier after one year, while having LOWERED your bodyfat percentage, and added probably 2 inches to your arms. It’s just that a lot of people don’t have the willpower to go about it like that, eating clean every damn day, month after month, for an entire year. But some people do it. (Kingbeef, Dylanj, Alpha, Joeschmo from bodyspace… it’s not impossible).

If you can keep your mind set hard on those next 10lbs on the barbell, and gain a pound of weight every week or two, you will see the results coming little by little as the months go by. But you’ve got to commit to gaining that way for 4-6 months as a bare minimum, or it just won’t pan out. Patience is a hugely understated principle in bodybuilding. You can’t rush things, as much as any marketing hype would have us believe, but you’ve got to keep a forward momentum to break your body out of it’s comfort zone too.

“Muscle gains come very slowly whether you gain fat with it or not.”~JoeSchmo. lol

Sending you a PM to go with this post.

Glad you’ve gotten over the tension of gaining now :slight_smile: (it’s a good thing mr popular chipped in!)

Training:

I did actually have in mind adding extra training days (removing the hiit), especially since you’ll easily handle it when eating enough (plus it helps to keep gains leaner when you exercise at least 5x/week…it’s what I’ve found to be the lower “boundary”). You could have done 4 training days plus 2 or 3 cardio days, but it’ll be better to put more energy/recovery towards growth/strength.

What I was thinking of doing was splitting the leg day into half, so that you have 2 versions of the leg day; 1 day mainly for romanian deadlift/SLDL, and the other mainly for squats (so you’ll have major movements for hip extension and major movements for thighs…this all helps to keep balance etc). Reason for split is because it spreads workload better, and most find that either movement (DL/Squat) wipes them out - so giving them their own days helps.

Due to a few things that I’ve noticed in your training, and with potential overlap from increasing workout days on current routine, I think it’d be best to switch to a push/pull/legs split. I don’t like to change things around too much, but at the start it’s kind of necessary to get into the right “grove” (if you know what I mean). In other words, don’t get into the habit of changing routines unless you have a really good reason to (this one should last a LONG time).

Keep to the same exercises, except arrange them into this split:

push:
chest/shoulders/tri’s

pull:
back/bi’s

leg day 1:
squats, leg press and abs

leg day 2:
romanian deadlift, lunges and abs

6x/week:

mon - chest/delts/tri’s
tue - back/bi’s
wed - leg day 1 (DL’s)
thu - chest/delts/tri’s
fri - back/bi’s
sat - legs day 2 (Squats)
sun - —

Only alterations to exercises -

Do incline press with dumbbells instead of barbell (better pec focus/tension).

Diet:

When changing from fat loss to gaining, most people usually add at least 1000 cals. That’s like the definite safe point/starting point where you’ll never over-do it. So for you, simply add 1000 cals (bringing you up to ~3000/day).

From that point, you’ll probably have to increase calories.

The main difference this time around for you is macro-nutrient partitioning. It’s far easier than it sounds lol. Basically, especially to begin, with you’ll get most calories from protein/fat. Keep carb intake to around workouts for fuel and glycogen replenishment. So like you said, yes, carbs will be lower. Carbs will be higher on a gaining phase because of the extra intensity/workload/glycogen refilling needs.

It all depends on how YOUR body responds. If you find energy/brain function diminishes, then increase workout/morning carbs. Carbs are over-rated in my opinion. Get just enough of them and it’s all you need for growth and good functioning (so long as over-all calories and protein is high enough). Whereas get too many of them and it starts to screw with insulin response etc and makes you much fatter.

If not gaining, simply increase carbs first. If still not gaining, increase fats. Repeat cycle.

Start off at around 100g of carbs/day (that’s incidental carbs too from veg/nuts etc). So you could eat 20g before you train (e.g. breakfast or whenever you train), 50g after you train, and the rest from veg etc. Try to keep fat out of the pre/post workout meals/shakes.

Counting calories and figuring out macronutrients is definitely a valid way to make progress, and if that sort of thing suits your personality I think it can work. I have always found it tedious.

I think most bodybuilders end up eating the same things every day anyhow. Unless you have money and access to a lot of variety, I think it’s pretty natural… Most guys find their staples and stick with them, be it chicken, steak, eggs, sweet potatoes, whatever… and from that point it’s simple to add a little of this or take away a little of that to get your body moving in a different direction.

Many guys maintaining a leaner muscular bodyweight have simply made a habit of eating “lean” foods at staples every day. Traditional bodybuilding foods like steak, oatmeal, chicken, eggs, sweet potatoes, etc. became traditional for a reason. Give that guy a couple peanut butter and honey sandwiches or something, and he’ll begin gaining muscular weight as long as his training is intense.

Obviously you should not be eating chicken breast and celery all day long as though you’re dieting for a contest, and eating to gain does not have to be the “cleanest” process, but far too many guys read about “eat big to gain big” and their minds go to pizza and fast food and cake as daily staples (I was guilty of this as a beginner as well)… what they don’t realize is, yes the big guys do eat pizza, yes they eat cheeseburgers, but 90% of their diets are still the clean stuff.

My point is, you can find those staple foods you will eat every day (based around getting in the protein you need), and add from there to get you gaining perfectly fine. I know for me it’s chicken, eggs, and protein shakes. For my training partner it’s probably more like eggs, chili, protein shakes. We all know ProfessorX likes steaks… you get the idea.

Friday, 4/15/2011 (Chest & Back)

BB Incline Bench
80/10
115/5
135/5
135/5
135/5

BB Flat Bench
145/6
145/6
155/6

Pull-Ups
BW/3 (warmup)
BW/8
BW/8
BW/8

BB Row
95/5
125/8
125/8

Cable Rows
125/15
135/13

Comments:
Today was last lifting session before switching to my 5-day split and bulking phase, but I made sure it was a good session! Best part about today was I finally was able to lift with a partner that’s stronger and more experienced than me! That’s why you see the considerable jumps in Benching. He basically spotted me on each rep, but very slightly. What I noticed was the following. Take Benching 155 for example. When lifting the bar on my own, my initial thought is “Shit, this is heavy”. Instead, with having him spot me from the beginning, each subsequent rep felt easier, because my mind was telling me that it was “too heavy”. Something I found interesting.

Yeah a good spotter is great. That’s one thing that’s probably lacking, because on here you’d have to video yourself etc to see if form and intensity etc is good. If you were in the gym, and one of us spotted, we could easily say do this or do that in 5 mins…but it gets a bit tedious online.

I’ve always taken intensity for granted to be honest, because it comes quite naturally (always had a drive - a ‘stubborness’ to not let the weight beat me lol). Looks like this is something to keep in mind for yourself - to keep that fire burning with beating the log book (and the spotter will really help with this). Although, try not to be too concerned about the weight even if you don’t have a spotter - since you tend to greatly under-estimate the strength a person has to control the load…especially if in “danger”. It’s only the last few reps that get dodgy. So don’t be beaten before you even finish (i.e. by telling yourself this is heavy…keep the positive drive going). Your muscles can handle it, it’s the brain that holds back.

You guys will probably call me crazy, but I’m attaching a screenshot of what I plan on eating Monday when I start my bulk. Yes, I’m a detailed sob! I can’t help it, I love data analysis, especially when it comes to training and nutrition. I probably over analyze most of the time and take the fun out of the process, but I need to do this in the beginning, just to set my mind straight. Anyways, here it is. If for some reason there’s anything glaring as completely stupid, let me know.