[quote]Tonino wrote:
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
Good session! Especially considering it’s the end of the week (fatigue usually builds up quite a bit by this point).
I find it best to drop the sets where performance drops dramatically (e.g. flat bench for yourself). But this depends on how it goes - could just have been this session, so stick to the same amount of sets for now on flat press.
Example:
Working set = the sets where the load is “hard”
Working set 1 - 10 reps - 200lbs
Working set 2 - 8 reps - 200lbs
Working set 3 - 7 reps - 200lbs
Working set 4 - 5 reps - 200lbs
So in the above example, you would stop after roughly the 2nd or 3rd set. In other words, it doesn’t give you more growth by doing more sets past the point where reps on the sets start to drop off by 2-3 or more (with the same load…obviously reps would drop off when you increase load). In fact, if you go far past this point, you simply deplete the muscle more and prolong recovery (with no increase in growth stimulus). Going past that point regularly often leads to burnout.
Hope that makes sense. If you keep to that principle, you’ll be able to do all and any program with the best optimisation. It’s what advanced lifters do instinctively.[/quote]
Yes, I think I follow. So in my example, if I got 5-6 reps on my 2nd working set with Flat Bench, then I’d continue keeping the 2nd working set. But seeing as I only got 3 reps (-3 from 1st working set), then it may be wiser to stick to only 1 working set with flat bench.
Following with the principle of instinct, if during one of my Chest sessions I happen to breeze thru my 1st working set with flat bench, then it may be beneficial to add 1 more, because the probability of me getting as many reps as set 1 is very high based on fatigue/self-assessment.
Did I get it right?
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Yeah that’s exactly it. It’s kind of a self regulating way of training (it gives you enough stimulus: not too little and not too much).
If the load is lighter, you manage much more working sets before the reps drop off (so the volume is high but the intensity is lower). Likewise, when the load is ramped up to a higher load pretty quickly, the reps drop off much faster (so the volume is low and the intensity is high).
Example 1 (high volume, lower intensity):
Set 1: 15 reps - 125lbs
Set 2: 12 reps - 150lbs
Set 3: 10 reps - 180lbs
Set 4: 10 reps - 210lbs
Set 5: 8 reps - 230lbs
Set 6: 6 reps - 230lbs (stop here, or even on set 4)
Example 2 (lower volume, higher intensity)
Set 1: 12 reps - 135lbs
Set 2: 10 reps - 180lbs
Set 3: 8 reps - 230lbs
Set 4: 6 reps - 250lbs
Set 5: 5 reps - 250lbs (stop here)
When I say high intensity, I mean a high percentage of your 1 Rep Max. So 85% of your 1RM (usually around 6 reps/set) is higher intensity than 70% of your 1RM (usually around 10 reps/set). That reps/set estimate only applies to most muscle groups usually, for legs it changes quite a bit (usually manage quite a bit more reps/set using 70% 1RM)