Toney Freeman Arrested in Sweden

kakno · December 10, 2010, 4:53pm

[quote]Nidhogg wrote:
Lol i meant WESTERN europe, eastern europe is pretty poor.
Yea if you want to settle down and have kids, sweden isnt too bad if you dont count crimes. But with all too-good-to-be-true things sweden is up for a dark future. Immigrants are raping the the country. Stockholm is a hell hole. You said you lived in sundsvall? Thats probably the reason we dont share the same opinion, smaller places are good to live in.[/quote]

In my experience, Western Europe isn’t cheaper than Sweden. Possibly higher salaries or so, but I don’t know.

I live in VÃ?Â¥rberg, part of SkÃ?Â¤rholmen, on the red subway line going towards Norsborg. It’s a suburb in Stockholm, which I don’t consider a hell hole.

Don’t agree with “immigrants are raping the country”, we just have an overly generous welfare system sometimes (because people vote for the person who sounds nicest) and some people don’t want to hire immigrants.

Good post by Asoss on this.

Nidhogg · December 10, 2010, 5:04pm

Yeah alright my bad, misconception. Not all do, theres the first wave of immigrants in the 50s who worked hard and earned their money then the second and third wave of refugees in the 90s. Im talking about people who immigrate now, last month was like 2000 gypies from serbia waiting to come and ravage our welfare system and the government welcomes them with open arms.
And trust me, theres way more abuse than proper use. All ethnicities.

As for cheaper, i wasnt solely talking about that. I was addressing social life and the ambitions of youth. In sweden they stroke their cocks and await money from either CSN or SOS. That kind of shit does not exist in other countries. Now im certainly not saying that ALL people are like that, but a great majority.

And its common sense, if you get money from doing nothing, people wont do anything. They will be under-stimulated, no plans of future or anything. There is no PUSH to the world, its either that your sucking your mommas tit or youre sucking the welfare systems cock.

Yeah, new law in sweden starting from 1st dec this year. All immigrants who have lived here maximally 2 years will have 6500kr welfare + they get to keep ALL their money they earn from work. This happens while elderly have to eat cat food because their pension is not big enough.

Asoss · December 10, 2010, 5:14pm

I see where you are coming from, and I understand the problem you are addressing. Yes, younger people generally have become somewhat “less ambitious”. I am 21 myself, I study to become a civil engineer at KTH and I work on what little spare time I have left. I guess I am a part of this generation you are speaking of.

I try to have a “to each his own” mentality when it comes to things like this. Hell, other young people just sitting on their asses doing nothing only helps me in the long run. Less competition. I don’t have any exact numbers, and I don’t think you have either so I guess it’s a matter of experience. You are probably older than i am, and both you and I seem to come from two different places so I guess it leaves everything in a matter of interpretation.

Another topic I feel has changed is the quality of the Swedish language. I am by no means old, but I remember that back in the 90’s there were much more “intelligent” conversations, people spoke diligently and much more detailed, focusing on skill. Now everything is about instant texting, acronyms and shortcuts. People try to fit as much conversation in a word or two. Nothing special, just an observation I had.

Asoss · December 10, 2010, 5:19pm

Anyhow, I’m off to the gym. I think we should end this discussion before the yanks think Swedes are all a bunch of tree-hugging groupies.

therajraj · December 10, 2010, 5:31pm

[quote]kakno wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Here’s another one explained by lawyers: http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20101208/wl_csm/348217

He was having consensual sex with a chick, the condom broke mid-way and he kept going and apparently she withdrew consent. That is considered rape in Sweden. Wow. Withdrawing consent midway???

Also having sex with a sleeping woman you just had consensual sex with is also considered rape. LOL.

The funny part is these two girls went to the police together after because they were worried about contracting HIV. When they explained it to the officers, the officers had told them that that was considered rape. LOL. A woman KNOWS when she is being raped. the fact they had to be explained to them it was rape just shows how fucked the laws regarding rape in Sweden truly are.[/quote]

This makes perfect sense to me. You’re actually saying that if a woman agrees to have sex with you, she’s fair game for the rest of the night.

Not wanting to have sex with some stranger without a condom makes perfect sense to me. And a woman should be allowed to say no. She doesn’t want to get pregnant and she doesn’t want any STDs. If she says no given the new circumstances, he damn well better respect that. If he doesn’t, it is rape.

Let’s say you have consentual sex with a girl and she falls asleep. Does that give you the right to fuck her while she’s sleeping? Do you really think that? I’d like it if some of the women on this site chimed in, but that’s no way to treat a woman and if it later turns out that she doesn’t want him to fuck her while she’s sleeping, I’d say it’s rape.

I don’t know if the allegations are true, but
a) Having sex with someone who says “no” and
b) Fucking someone who’s sleeping and can’t say no until she wakes up
is rape. [/quote]

No, I wouldn’t consider someone taking back consent MIDWAY through a sex act rape.

Nor would I consider having sex with a girl who is asleep that you just recently had sex with as rape.

You can’t honestly believe someone deserves YEARS in jail for the above. Morally wrong? sure. But criminal? Come on man.

Westclock · December 10, 2010, 6:25pm

No one really cares about Sweden.

Sounds harsh I know, but its true, they are stable and wealthy, but somewhat unimportant to the world.

Its not a significant country on the international scene and spectrum of things. They are a fairly wealthy country, with a well educated, highly skilled population, but for the most part are completely content to exist.

Their policies and views have almost no effect on the world at large simply because their country is deliberately set up to resist change and simply live comfortably. They take very adaptive stances to many issues, and dont press any sort of domineering agendas.

I see nothing wrong with this, infact I think its brilliant, and I have visited friends living there a few times, and loved the country, and MANY MANY people prefer to live life this way.

I simply do not. I want things done my way, Im not going to go with the flow and let the big guys fight for dominance while I sit quietly in a corner.

Sweden is the decent looking, fairly intelligent, studious, but sort of quiet and nerdy kid that will grow up, go to a nice college, study hard, graduate, marry a “nice” girl, buy a quaint little house with a garden in the quiet suburbs, have a few kids, wear sweater vests to church, go for “brunch”, eat bran flakes with skim milk, drive a Volvo and retire to a life in Florida on the beach drinking coffee and buying antiques.

Id rather be America: Im going to drive a muscle car, drink whiskey like water, gorge on steak and ribs, rule this world to my whim like a mafia king pin with a fat cock, fuck loud, break shit, make stacks of cash in crazy markets, start fights and make noise.

Sweden can be comfortably pedestrian. America isnt going to.

Asoss · December 10, 2010, 7:26pm

Fuck no, I guess I have to be the American ambassador of Sweden.

Dre_the_Hatchet · December 10, 2010, 7:37pm