[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
it’s basically what Vbulletins have been for years, real live time posts w/o moderation (or so it seems). Why they don’t just use that is beyond me[/quote]
The stock answer to this has always been “the current format gives us the features we want” or something along those lines. “Features” must mean security or moderation ability or something else dealing with site admin, because it sure as hell isn’t end-user friendly.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
it’s basically what Vbulletins have been for years, real live time posts w/o moderation (or so it seems). Why they don’t just use that is beyond me[/quote]
The stock answer to this has always been “the current format gives us the features we want” or something along those lines. “Features” must mean security or moderation ability or something else dealing with site admin, because it sure as hell isn’t end-user friendly.[/quote]
I get what you are saying. It must suit the site.
I was just interested in knowing if the authors had an opinion.
I also wonder if there has been many member created threads regarding the articles. I used to enjoy reading the threads after the articles.
Is there even an “ARTICLES” forum anymore? I don’t see it in the list of forums.
Now… that seems crazy.
Do they really not want any threads about articles?
Do folks PM the authors with their threads, or just give them a link in LiveSpill?
Can you archive LiveSpill discussions?
So if a year from now if I want to read the questions and responses to the article, can I look in the archive for that information?
I’ve talked to two authors from this site personally, and both of them have lamented the new LiveSpill discussions, echoing the jist of what is being said in this thread: it really dumbs down the ensuing discussions…
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
I’ve talked to two authors from this site personally, and both of them have lamented the new LiveSpill discussions, echoing the jist of what is being said in this thread: it really dumbs down the ensuing discussions…[/quote]
Wow… that sucks.
You would think then things would change.
There isn’t even an articles forum anymore.
Maybe there won’t be anymore article. Maybe this will just be a store with training logs.
I agree - the LiveSpill sucks - totally. I don’t even bother reading it because it’s just a big fucking mess.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Can you archive LiveSpill discussions?
So if a year from now if I want to read the questions and responses to the article, can I look in the archive for that information?[/quote]
Yes:
http://www.t-nation.com/strength-training-groups/article-comments
I will say this much:
At this point there is no plan to go back to forum discussions for articles. But, as mentioned you are more than welcome to start your own topics on them in the appropriate forum.
Also, keep in mind that this is barely version 1. Many changes and improvements are on the way. And we are taking your requests here into consideration as we make these changes.
Part of me thinks you should have a democratic system that allows voting on a question to be answered, i.e. majority votes for question B means question B gets asked.
However, this would mean individual questions might not get answered.
You need to NOT reinvent the wheel (I hate that fucking term) and find a site/system that does this BEST, and just implement it.
Sounds like the powers that be are hell bent on making LiveSpill work, despite the fact that it clearly sucks and no one likes it. I also find myself reading articles less due to my inability to follow what’s going on with the new format.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]LowfatMatt wrote:
I will say this much:
At this point there is no plan to go back to forum discussions for articles…[/quote]
Why not?[/quote]
Either because they want to prove that general consensus can’t sway them, or they are hell bent on having something “unique” among similar sites…i.e. “pioneering.”
Or both.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]LowfatMatt wrote:
I will say this much:
At this point there is no plan to go back to forum discussions for articles…[/quote]
Why not?[/quote]
Either because they want to prove that general consensus can’t sway them, or they are hell bent on having something “unique” among similar sites…i.e. “pioneering.”
Or both.[/quote]
I honestly didn’t see much benefit from those forum discussions either. the ones that did turn into awesome threads were usually because one of us with some of kind of formal background in what is being discussed challenged the author on something…but that was years back. Lately, all most of those threads were was an opportunity to log on and scream out “great thread, I love you”.
What would be different…is random round tables between the authors and some of the forum members who may or may not agree with them.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]LowfatMatt wrote:
I will say this much:
At this point there is no plan to go back to forum discussions for articles…[/quote]
Why not?[/quote]
Either because they want to prove that general consensus can’t sway them, or they are hell bent on having something “unique” among similar sites…i.e. “pioneering.”
Or both.[/quote]
I honestly didn’t see much benefit from those forum discussions either. the ones that did turn into awesome threads were usually because one of us with some of kind of formal background in what is being discussed challenged the author on something…but that was years back. Lately, all most of those threads were was an opportunity to log on and scream out “great thread, I love you”.
What would be different…is random round tables between the authors and some of the forum members who may or may not agree with them.[/quote]
They were also helpful for some clarification on the subject matter. A few times, the author answered a question of mine to my benefit. Or someone else had the same question and I read the answer in the discussion. But the mess that LiveSpill is now, I don’t even bother.
Sure I can just start a thread about the article, but I think it’s less likely the author will pop in to my thread and answer it.
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]LowfatMatt wrote:
I will say this much:
At this point there is no plan to go back to forum discussions for articles…[/quote]
Why not?[/quote]
Either because they want to prove that general consensus can’t sway them, or they are hell bent on having something “unique” among similar sites…i.e. “pioneering.”
Or both.[/quote]
I honestly didn’t see much benefit from those forum discussions either. the ones that did turn into awesome threads were usually because one of us with some of kind of formal background in what is being discussed challenged the author on something…but that was years back. Lately, all most of those threads were was an opportunity to log on and scream out “great thread, I love you”.
What would be different…is random round tables between the authors and some of the forum members who may or may not agree with them.[/quote]
They were also helpful for some clarification on the subject matter. A few times, the author answered a question of mine to my benefit. Or someone else had the same question and I read the answer in the discussion. But the mess that LiveSpill is now, I don’t even bother.
Sure I can just start a thread about the article, but I think it’s less likely the author will pop in to my thread and answer it.[/quote]
Hey, I agree completely…but do you really think most of the people even worried about LiveSpill are even at your level?
If I had to guess, the discussions are likely not as involved as they used to be nor as in depth. I still like those old threads where CT would pop up, and even the one that Chad erased years back. That shit was interesting.
Now? Not so much.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]LowfatMatt wrote:
I will say this much:
At this point there is no plan to go back to forum discussions for articles…[/quote]
Why not?[/quote]
I’m guessing that the’ve sunk capital into developing the Livespill thing, maybe hired some folks to do it, and they want to get something for their $$$$.
Still, I’m with everyone else. It blows ass to have to scroll way up a page to try and find the question that the author is answering. I never look at them anymore.
If they were smart, they’d implement something like Engadget’s topic trending feature.