I have intervened a few times. Usually just stepping in the middle calms the situation. Two guys fighting…not my business.
I saw a restaurant manager physically restraining a woman he claimed left without paying the bill. Was rather rough about it. Kind of kept an eye on it until he pushed one of her three kids away and knocked him on the ground. The kid was about 6. I put the manager in a wrist lock and had a discussion with him about manners. The woman left with kids in tow.
Another time I saw a drunk guy about 50 hitting on a girl about 17 on the subway. It seemed harmeless until he started groping her and she started screaming for help. I was literally the only male on the subway car besides the drunk. I pulled him off by his hair and held him against the door. At the next stop I pushed him out onto the platform. A Port Authority cop was there, with his German Shepherd. I introduced him to the drunk groper…I’m sure they had a nice chat.
First things first. I don’t like violence. I don’t get a hard on like some people watching videos of people beating each other.
However, I will step in for people that I think are undeserving of being assaulted. I won’t step in if it is merely verbal. If the girl keeps escalating it after trying to pull her back well then that is her bad.
Generally speaking if I feel like something is going to happen I usually stare people in the eyes and glare, sounds dumb but usually works for the regular guys. I know my limitations, I have zero fighting skill. If I am going to fight I am going to try and get my hands on you and end it quick. I am a rage fighter, I need to get pissed.
I would never step physically in between two combatants. I would push the person I know/helping back and put myself in their place but without getting any closer to the assailant. A friend of mine’s neighbor stepped in between two male combatants and ended up with a knife in his skull.
only ever had to step in once and it was at the start of this year, the club we usually attend on a saturday night there’s generally one or two fights so its not out of the ordinary too see them, I generally stay out of the way because its not my problem and aslong as there not bothering me or the people I’m with its all cool,
but this one time i saw a guy pick up a girl and pin her to the wall, I just grabbed him off her and told him to back the fuck off her, he ended up running away(I had a good 20-30kg on him lol) the girl thanked me and bought me a beer, then it was all happy days from their on
I was attacked once. It was pretty horrific. I was at the beach, it was at night and was with a date and friends for a bonfire. I went by myself to the car to get another blanket because it was COLD and my date was too drunk to walk. In the parking lot 2 guys jumped me. They punched me in the face, shoved me down and were on me. I managed to scream and grab a bottle that was in the parking lot and hit one of them with it in the head but then he went really crazy and started hitting me over and over. I couldn’t even scream anymore. Luckily two young skateboarders saw and started yelling for help and came near and then a married couple ran over yelling and the two ran away. I just hate thinking about what more would have happened if someone hadn’t helped me. As it was I had two broken fingers, a concussion, split lips, scratches on my chest and neck, a hyper extended elbow and two black eyes, all over body bruises.
If you don’t do anything else at least yell for help if you see someone in trouble.
I was attacked once. It was pretty horrific. I was at the beach, it was at night and was with a date and friends for a bonfire. I went by myself to the car to get another blanket because it was COLD and my date was too drunk to walk. In the parking lot 2 guys jumped me. They punched me in the face, shoved me down and were on me. I managed to scream and grab a bottle that was in the parking lot and hit one of them with it in the head but then he went really crazy and started hitting me over and over. I couldn’t even scream anymore. Luckily two young skateboarders saw and started yelling for help and came near and then a married couple ran over yelling and the two ran away. I just hate thinking about what more would have happened if someone hadn’t helped me. As it was I had two broken fingers, a concussion, split lips, scratches on my chest and neck, a hyper extended elbow and two black eyes, all over body bruises.If you don’t do anything else at least yell for help if you see someone in trouble.
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Wow…cant believe people these days…Only time I have had to step in was at a club. A girl and her boyfriend were arguing…which is a normal scene at the club. But she girl slaps him, and the guy back hands her so hard she tumbles on to the floor.
Everyone was drunk so I come up a shove the guy…and tell him to calm down…probably not the best idea because he decks me in the eye…I managed to bust his lip before the bouncers got on us…I dont think there is any excuses to hit a women…unless she kick you in the nuts…
I was never in many fights when I was younger. But one thing I have notice, sence I moved to/into a college town I have had to step into and gotten into some fights(never ever started one), is that most ppl who start fights are bitches and have never had their ass beet. Too go with that, the ppl who run their mouths have never had their ass beet.
The reason for that to me is most ppl are scared. 1) They dont want to get hurt 2) the repercussions, i.e. cops, laws suits ect. so they “walk away”. Sometimes that is the best thing, other times its not.
Now most ppl say they dont like to fight or they dont like violence. Now, I too would say I dont like violence and I dont WANT to get into a fight but it would be a lie to say I dont enjoy fighting and beating someone up. Say what you will but there is no bigger rush than a strait up 1-1 fight. Now I dont go looking for fights and have only been in maybe 5 or 6 but it takes any where from 1 to 4 or 5 weeks to come down from “winning” a fight.
As for stepping in, Bauer97 hit the nail on the head. If I think I need to step in and I think I can go in and talk said person/persons down then I will. If not then Ill do what I think I have to do. But every time I hear the opening “sermon” of the Boondock Saints I always just kinda nod my head…
'…poor soul cried out for help time and time again, but no person answered her calls. Though many saw, no one so much as called the police. They all just watched as Kitty was being stabbed to death in broad daylight. They watched as her assailant walked away. Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."
I found out while searching for the quote that this is actually a true story. Very sad, and not doing anything is referred too as the bystander effect or "Genovese syndrome. Here is the link if anyone is interested…sry for such a long post.
(edit) Mostly true story. Just some small details but she was murderd on the side walk in fornt of the apt. building
About 3-4years ago I intervened when I saw a 18yr kid getting surrounded by 7 guys, ranging 16-18.
They were all built like racing snakes and looked younger than they were.
Anywho couldn’t talk it down - so I took a sucker punch in the back of the head…hit like a girl, so I kept talking. Happened again so I grabbed him in a headlock. The rest of them piled on.
They were all kids, and I didn’t feel right hitting any of them, so I just swung the kid I had around like a human shield. The victim was out cold already, by now, but some bystanders dragged him into a nearby shop and locked the door - leaving me outside with the rest of them.
I held onto the kid till the police got there.
In the end only 2 were over 18, and 10 months later they got a caution - as far as I know nothing happened to the other 5.
In hindsight I’m glad I jumped in - I have no doubt they would have half killed the first kid - but I do worry that I didn’t show these kids that there were consequences to their actions.
That said,any time you throw a punch, there’s a chance you could kill the guy. They had almost no chance to do me any real harm - but the reverse just wasn’t true.
[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
You guys sayin’ don’t jump in are either thinking of different situations than I am (two idiots wanna have at ‘er in a bar, go crazy, I ain’t goin’ nowhere near that) but if your sister gets bottled, you’re gonna want someone in there to protect her, I mean come on.[/quote]
Exactly. I’m not for being ‘gung ho’ as someone suggested but my view is that there are some things in life more important than covering your own ass.
BTW I didn’t realise I’d written friggin’ War and Peace (no irony/pun intended) in my first post! Obviously had stuff to get off my chest …
And OG, I’m sorry to read your story but glad it wasn’t worse.
Intervene if, like everyone else has said, it is someone who is not a willing participant in a duel.
Putting the whole ‘hero’ thing to one side I’m well aware that the best I would likely be able to do in such a situation (multiple attackers, etc.) is take the kicks to the head myself and end up dead while the lady flees.
I’d still step in though.
I’ve always wanted to see if that old adage is true: ‘Crazy Beats Big’.
Only time I’ve had to intervene is when one of my boys(who was beyond hammered) was trying to start shit with some dude who “was looking at my girl.” When I saw the reality of the situation, I threatened to beat his ass myself. Stopped hanging with him shortly after that.
I got into a similar conversation with some of my guys from work. When we are on trips for training, of course we sample the local nightlife. The statement was made that if one of your boys was in a fight, you had to jump in. I disagreed.
If my boy Dumbass runs his mouth and starts a fight, then I’ll watch, and only jump in to keep it fair(ie, multiple attackers). Other than that, he’s on his own. Dumbass gets jumped for no reason and is taking the worse of it, I’ll help stop it. Outside of those criteria, I’ll be at the bar getting another beer.
Those criteria obviously extend to other patrons as well. If a group of guys jumps a chick or other guy and is beating them just because they can, then hell yes I’m in that shit. Otherwise, look for me at the bar. When we do go out, I’m usually one of the most sober guys(I am not a heavy drinker by any means, and rarely get beyond a slight buzz). I have had to intervene when a bouncer was going after one of my guys, in order to avoid a fight and get the idiot out of the bar.
Do folks remember Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker? He was caught after a woman recognized him and a mob pursued him and captured him. Well they also beat him a bit, but they did catch him.
Ir not intervention, a willingness to stand up and do something caught him.
onlt time i had to help out, was a neighbor of mine was a nice guy, till you added booze.then he’d use his wife as a punching bag. i had to fight him so often,i finally told her to either leave him or i wasn’t helping out any more.dumb bitch never left him. and i stood by my words.
What’s wrong with whooping a little kid’s ass when they don’t listen.
When did it become so wrong to hit a woman? They aren’t defenseless.
If someone deserves an ass whooping’ they should get an ass whooping, plain and simple.
Now a days, some woman do not have any respect, they think they can get away with anything, just like little kids. Why? Because no one humbles their ass no more.
I was attacked once. It was pretty horrific. I was at the beach, it was at night and was with a date and friends for a bonfire. I went by myself to the car to get another blanket because it was COLD and my date was too drunk to walk. In the parking lot 2 guys jumped me. They punched me in the face, shoved me down and were on me. I managed to scream and grab a bottle that was in the parking lot and hit one of them with it in the head but then he went really crazy and started hitting me over and over. I couldn’t even scream anymore. Luckily two young skateboarders saw and started yelling for help and came near and then a married couple ran over yelling and the two ran away. I just hate thinking about what more would have happened if someone hadn’t helped me. As it was I had two broken fingers, a concussion, split lips, scratches on my chest and neck, a hyper extended elbow and two black eyes, all over body bruises.
If you don’t do anything else at least yell for help if you see someone in trouble.
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I think someone would be able to distinguish that from a couple getting physical. Which reminds me, folks if you’re going to fight with your SO or whoop your kids ass. Do it in private, I have always been for ass whooping when ass whooping needed to be done, but who invented this stuff of doing it in a public place?
I’ve never seen anyone attack a woman. I would jump in a heartbeat if I ever saw it.
I have jumped into a couple of bar fights because the odds just seemed unfair. One time I would up getting sucker punched a couple of times while I was pulling people apart, but was able to intimidate the gang of 5-7 once I was able to square up to them. Their punches were pretty lame but I still felt stupid catching one on the nose. I felt somewhat vindicated later when I learned that this little group had been preying on people a la some ass-backwards Fight Club.
Anyway, the best tactic I’ve found for breaking up fights outside the bar has been to yell “Cops! Run!” 99% of these fights are for retarded reasons and this distracts people long enough for things to cool down. Mostly people realize they just flinched hard, and have no business fighting. If this doesn’t work, it’s not worth it to jump in. One side (and who knows which?) either has nothing to lose or is fighting for some reason that the cops will get behind (either officially or unofficially i.e. did you see where that guy went? Me? Nah - he slipped away.)
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
What’s wrong with whooping a little kid’s ass when they don’t listen.
When did it become so wrong to hit a woman? They aren’t defenseless.
If someone deserves an ass whooping’ they should get an ass whooping, plain and simple.
Now a days, some woman do not have any respect, they think they can get away with anything, just like little kids. Why? Because no one humbles their ass no more.[/quote]
Now I cant really agree with this 100% but I have wondered what I would do if a women ever hit me. I am of the mind that you dont put your hands on anyone unless you have a damn good reason…and ladies being called bitch, Hoe or whore are not a good enough reason. My GF old room mate is a ok girl I like her. But here is the thing, she is 6ft tall and fairly attractive but she thinks she can beet just about anyones ass and gets into more fights than anyone I know. I have had to step in on 2 or 3 of them myself. Once her and 2 other girls had some words, well the girls got kick out of the Bar we were at but waited out side for her. They prob would have beet her ass had I not stepped in.
Recently (I wasnt there) she “beet” some guys ass in a different bar. Now I dont really know the hole story but Im sure it got blown out of proportion. She prod hit the guy once or twice and I bet he was so drunk couldnt half stand anyway. But to rap it up she is one girl who needs the shit beet out of her once to bring her down a peg or two
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
What’s wrong with whooping a little kid’s ass when they don’t listen.
When did it become so wrong to hit a woman? They aren’t defenseless.
If someone deserves an ass whooping’ they should get an ass whooping, plain and simple.
Now a days, some woman do not have any respect, they think they can get away with anything, just like little kids. Why? Because no one humbles their ass no more.[/quote]
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Brother Chris wrote:
What’s wrong with whooping a little kid’s ass when they don’t listen.
When did it become so wrong to hit a woman? They aren’t defenseless.
If someone deserves an ass whooping’ they should get an ass whooping, plain and simple.
Now a days, some woman do not have any respect, they think they can get away with anything, just like little kids. Why? Because no one humbles their ass no more.
I hear banjos.
Dumb-ass redneck mentality.
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I fail to see how that is a “Dumb-ass redneck mentality” just b/c he is in GA. Hell for all you know he could he from NJ. I could call you a 'dumb ass Greaseball",“Spaghetti Bender” or “Wop” if you like that one better, seeing as sense you are from NJ its plane as day you are of Italian descent. Men all over the world beet their SO/kids, and just b/c someone from the south says something you dont like dose not make them a “redneck”.
As a side note I have lived in the south my hole life and never seen a banjos or heard one.
