why did god make wasp’s?
why did God make Muslims?
Why did god make France?
XOXO
Does anyone find it ironic that the word “sin” was the name of the Babylonian god of the moon?
To all non-believers: Do you really want to risk the wrath of the Second Coming?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8938072770528600574
[quote]muller__ wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
muller__ wrote:
Steveo, many people including me doesn’t believe that the bible is true.
Why should we believe in the bible.
Fulfilled prophecy. Have you studied this aspect out?
It’s just an old book with a lot of stories. There are old books about trolls too, should we believe in trolls?
Who told you this? How do you know that this is true? What if you are wrong?
I don’t believe in any form of god either. There is no indication/evidence making it probable that god exists.
Then you believe that all of the universe just came from what then? Do you ever see anything “make itself?” Did you ever see a car, for example, come into being due to an explosion or due to nothing? Of course not! Then why would you believe that the universe could have arisen without being Created?
You base your belief on a church and a book telling you this. If a church and an old book told you that the universe was created by a flying spaghetti monster, would you believe it? It would be just as valid as christianity.
No, sir – you are wrong. I base my belief upon a Bood written by the very mind of the living God. The ‘church’ a collection of believers who come together for worship and Bible study. We are not “dictated” by any higher authority, except God.
I can not tell you what “made” the universe, however i think the big bang theory is more plausible than other theories today. [/quote]
Really? Then have you thought about who or what created the thing that went “bang?” Where did that come from? How can this be more plausible since it doesn’t explain the origin of the begining piece of matter…[quote]
I have no clue to what came before big bang, and I accept that, even though it’s tempting to believe in god who has all the answers. There are things, I simple don’t know or ever will know.[/quote]
Read the Bible – you will then know.[quote]
You say you base your belief on the bible, which is written by god. How can you be sure that your god wrote this book? Because it says so in the book itself? That is absurd, which I will demonstrate.[/quote]
I already answered that in my previous post – Fulfilled Prophecy . Again I ask you – Have you studied this aspect of Biblical Authority out? [quote]
This post was written by the very mind of the living god, and therefore you shall believe in it Steveo![/quote]
Blasphemy is also sin – grevious sin. I would seriously look into Biblical salvation if I were you…
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
THE BOOK WAS WRITTEN & DIRECTED BY THE GOD OF THE UNIVERSE! [/b]
How do you know? What objective reasoning do you base your beliefs on? The bible is not objective, by the way…[/quote]
I don’t know how many times I have to write this, but the answer is:
Fulfilled Prophecy !
Since the Bible was written by God, he fortold things that would happen in history and guess what, those things that were to happen already happend. Therefore I can trust that those things that are supposed to yet happen in the future – i.e. Christ’s return for judgment – will also happen.[quote]
OBJECTIVE–
- Uninfluenced by emotions or personal prejudices: an objective critic
- Based on observable phenomena; presented factually: an objective appraisal.
It is impossible to base beleifs in the unknowable on objective reasoning. At best you can call it faith but you cannot call it reasoning. Every philosopher on the planet will tell you that.[/quote]
Of course it is faith – “without faith it is impossible to please Him.”
However, my faith is not “blind,” nor is it unreasonable. My faith can be shown to be quite reasonable, but one has to investigate these things.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
Then why would you believe that the universe could have arisen without being Created?
By your same logic: Who created the creator? Did it just arise without being created?[/quote]
Nobody – God has always existed. The Creator cannot be Created.[quote]
Shouldn’t you be in church today? God will get very angry and smite you if you do not obey his command. I thought you said you read the bible. Doesn’t it say something about a day of rest?[/quote]
I was indeed in church today, but believe it or not, even if one would not go, one is still saved if he or she has come to faith in Jesus. Anyway, our services are late morning into the afternoon. [/quote]
“Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.” Exodus 20:8-11[/quote]
Problem is that this command is to Israel – not the church. Please find where the command for a Sabbath Day is for the church.
(1) Hint: Look in the New Testament
(2) Hint: It is not there.
Good try…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
Do these trolls even lift?
I have my doubts. But then, I have stated the same about other posters like JeffR. Personally, I think anyone (including the excessive religious posters) who ONLY posts in the politics forum of this board probably doesn’t spend all that much time training.[/quote]
Sorry to disappoint you Prof X, but I am in the gym 4 days a week (minimum) and spend about 2 hours per session.
You guys really try to disparage people of faith, don’t you?
mazilla i almost fell out of my chair when i saw that lol. as for me i love infadels if everyone is goin to hell why would i want to go any other place?- satan eats candy bars and cheese wiz
[quote]yellow_snow wrote:
mazilla i almost fell out of my chair when i saw that lol. as for me i love infadels if everyone is goin to hell why would i want to go any other place?- satan eats candy bars and cheese wiz[/quote]
–I don’t condone lazy assholes who can neither spell nor use proper capitalization/punctuation. Come to me and you will suffer, fool.
–Using “lol” is a clear indication of TPS (tiny penis syndrome).
–I do not eat candy bars and “cheese wiz”. That is an ugly rumor started eons ago.
The Quran also contains these supposedly fulfilled prophecies. So by your own statements, you must believe in the Quran, since it must be the word of god… right Steveo?
dude i should cock slap you for that.ok you idiot ill go along with this.
if god is so fucking perfect why the hell did he create satan knowing damn well that satan was going to get angry when he left him out in the creation of the world? because the world needs balance? so… he made satan for the soul purpose of an example. he knows everything so he obviously knew that if he made lucifer, then he made the world, that satan would get jelous. that dosent sound like a very perfect god does it using a life and half his angels for the sould purpose of and example?
what the fuck is sin anyway? no its not real; its and idea like guilt, a feeling you get when you sin. ever think that its just guilt you feel? and the reason intelectualy chalenged people are sinless? its because they are not capable of having capacity to think what they are doing is wrong and therefore are not considerd sinful.
can we touch sin? can you messure it?
no, and yet we are born into it and the reason we cannot look at the face of god or we will die is because of sin hmm how convienient.
no ill tell you why people are filled with the presence to put this crap up… fear that they will die and never wake up, and dont even fucking deny it.
people need to know that they are part of the great ‘plan’ that our lives have some meaning; a grander purpose in the 'great scheme of things’whatever we do, or don’t do, however long or brief our lives, it was all part of the ‘plan’. no matter what we do, how we live our lives, it was meant to be, that was the ‘plan’
so our existence comes to an end, then we have ‘done our duty’, whatever it was.
-Don’t worry about life; you’re not going to survive it, anyway.
and yes i left some typos just for u…yes u
Steve O, what will happen if I do nothing about my sins?
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Do these trolls even lift?[/quote]
i seriously doubt it. it would appear there is a small portion of people here who actually do lift.
A myth is a religion in which no one any longer believes.
James Feibleman
YOU’RE ALL GOING TO HELL!!!
[quote]MattFarlick wrote:
YOU’RE ALL GOING TO HELL!!![/quote]
see you there, i’ll be the only guy from this site that actually lifted.
crap, i have a better one. i should have said…
see you there, i’ll be the guy curling in the squat rack.
[quote]MattFarlick wrote:
YOU’RE ALL GOING TO HELL!!![/quote]
Ye well who the fuck wants to go to heaven? I hear its full of Christians