[quote]Lorisco wrote:
No Buddhists are going to hell because they believe in self-control and self-discipline but follow a leader who was so damn fat that I’m sure he was a diabetic and had heart disease. What kind of model of self-disciple is that? That’s like holding up Madonna as an advocate for sexual abstinence!
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There are two differrent depictions of Buhhda…the original one is quite skinny. I am not sure where the fat one came from.
[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
Have you ever done any or all of the following?
(1) Lie
(2) Steal
(3) Lust after someone
Let me know and you will then answer your own question.
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I don’t go to bed until I have done all three of the above every day (twice on Sunday).
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
Have you ever done any or all of the following?
(1) Lie
(2) Steal
(3) Lust after someone
Let me know and you will then answer your own question.
I don’t go to bed until I have done all three of the above every day (twice on Sunday).
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I would love to meet the grown man in this day and age who never lied or “lusted” (who truly uses that term on a daily basis anymore?) after someone.
Steveo, if you don’t stop blathering your inane bullshit all over the forums, I swear, you are going to drive people to suicide.
And that just ain’t right!
Repent motherfucker.
[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
The Challenge: What are YOU [individually] going to do about your SIN? [/quote]
I don’t really see things in terms of “sins” - to me, that’s a negative way of analysing one’s behaviour and progress in life. I would say I find it better to see my actions and choices as having a variety of consequences - some plainly good or bad, but some with both good and bad consequences, or even unknown or undecided consequences.
Admiting that your behaviour can have morally complicated results may be less satisfying because you often don’t get an immediate black or white answer - but that is the productive and mature approach to life, in my opinion.
Regarding individual wrongs that I may do - I believe that there is only one way to remedy a wrong, and that is to fix things with the person whom I have wronged. Nobody or nothing can do this for you - nobody or nothing can “absolve” you of a wrong. It’s our own responsibility alone, and the only solution is to seek to put things right with the person we harmed and to make a genuine effort to improve.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Steveo, if you don’t stop blathering your inane bullshit all over the forums, I swear, you are going to drive people to suicide.
And that just ain’t right!
Repent motherfucker.[/quote]
LOL.
I wonder if Jesus ever spoke that way back in the day.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
No Buddhists are going to hell because they believe in self-control and self-discipline but follow a leader who was so damn fat that I’m sure he was a diabetic and had heart disease. What kind of model of self-disciple is that? That’s like holding up Madonna as an advocate for sexual abstinence!
There are two differrent depictions of Buhhda…the original one is quite skinny. I am not sure where the fat one came from.[/quote]
That’s Pu-tai, from China.
[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
electric_eales wrote:
what is my sin?
Have you ever done any or all of the following?
(1) Lie
(2) Steal
(3) Lust after someone
Let me know and you will then answer your own question.
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No none of those never ever ever
oops I just did number 1
If theres hell reagan definitely, definitely went into it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
Have you ever done any or all of the following?
(1) Lie
(2) Steal
(3) Lust after someone
Let me know and you will then answer your own question.
I don’t go to bed until I have done all three of the above every day (twice on Sunday).
I would love to meet the grown man in this day and age who never lied or “lusted” (who truly uses that term on a daily basis anymore?) after someone.[/quote]
Well, that’s my point! We are ALL sinners – therefore, we all sin, all the time.
Now that we have it established that we are all sinners, let’s get back to the question that I posed at the begining of this thread was:
What are YOU going to DO about your sin?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
In fact, I truly believe the only reason you aren’t a part of a Crusade to kill the non-believers if they don’t convert is because in this day and age, you would get arrested.[/quote]
well he can now go around killing all those who refuse to be born again christians…
http://www.gnn.tv/articles/2325/Militant_Jesus
http://anthony.gnn.tv/blogs/15763/Left_Behind_Eternal_Forces
"This game immerses children in present-day New York City ? 500 square blocks, stretching from Wall Street to Chinatown, Greenwich Village, the United Nations headquarters, and Harlem. The game rewards children for how effectively they role play the killing of those who resist becoming a born again Christian. The game also offers players the opportunity to switch sides and fight for the army of the AntiChrist, releasing cloven-hoofed demons who feast on conservative Christians and their panicked proselytes (who taste a lot like Christian).
Is this paramilitary mission simulator for children anything other than prejudice and bigotry using religion as an organizing tool to get people in a violent frame of mind? The dialogue includes people saying, ?Praise the Lord,? as they blow infidels away."
[quote]philph wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
The Challenge: What are YOU [individually] going to do about your SIN?
I don’t really see things in terms of “sins” - to me, that’s a negative way of analysing one’s behaviour and progress in life. I would say I find it better to see my actions and choices as having a variety of consequences - some plainly good or bad, but some with both good and bad consequences, or even unknown or undecided consequences.
Admiting that your behaviour can have morally complicated results may be less satisfying because you often don’t get an immediate black or white answer - but that is the productive and mature approach to life, in my opinion.
Regarding individual wrongs that I may do - I believe that there is only one way to remedy a wrong, and that is to fix things with the person whom I have wronged. Nobody or nothing can do this for you - nobody or nothing can “absolve” you of a wrong. It’s our own responsibility alone, and the only solution is to seek to put things right with the person we harmed and to make a genuine effort to improve.
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OK – but where are you getting these “rules of life” from? What objective source are your beliefs rooted? What if you are wrong?
In other words, it seems that you have come up with a set of rules and axioms that call “sin” “wrongs,” and you have invented a way to “fix” these without any authoritative source…
…If the Bible is correct about sin and that the “wages of sin is death,” and there is a day of reckoning to come for all – then you are in peril with respect to your eternal destiny.
While you have every right to believe what you wish – this is America after all – it seems to me that you have no objective source for your beliefs as I do mine.
Both of us cannot be correct – one is and one is not. If I am wrong, then I live a fairly good life, and then “poof” I am gone and nothing else is there. However, if I am correct that the Bible is correct (AND IT IS!) then, I spend eternity with the Lord and you spend eternity cast out into the darkness of fire, burning for eternity.
…Are you sure you want to take this risk?
[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
OK – but where are you getting these “rules of life” from? What objective source are your beliefs rooted? What if you are wrong?
In other words, it seems that you have come up with a set of rules and axioms that call “sin” “wrongs,” and you have invented a way to “fix” these without any authoritative source…
…If the Bible is correct about sin and that the “wages of sin is death,” and there is a day of reckoning to come for all – then you are in peril with respect to your eternal destiny.
While you have every right to believe what you wish – this is America after all – it seems to me that you have no objective source for your beliefs as I do mine.
Both of us cannot be correct – one is and one is not. If I am wrong, then I live a fairly good life, and then “poof” I am gone and nothing else is there. However, if I am correct that the Bible is correct (AND IT IS!) then, I spend eternity with the Lord and you spend eternity cast out into the darkness of fire, burning for eternity.
…Are you sure you want to take this risk?
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The bible is only literature, SteveO. Have you ever read any of it? Did you know your only knowledge of Jesus–and God for that matter comes from a book? Jesus is a fictional character, like Macbeth or Hamlet. To say it is truth because it was written is…well…stupid. You might as well glorify Achilles, or Heracles–or even Zeus. Which brings me to a different question? Seriously, this is not rhetorical–why do you believe in and worship Christ as apposed to the Greek and Roman or Norse gods. Is it because it is silly fiction?
The Bible offers little in the way of salvation as you so put it. At best it is a collection of bed-time stories for. If you are sadistic and like giving your children nightmares of the apocalypse read it to them before they go to sleep and have them repeat ‘The Lord’s Prayer’.
I could write a book right now and bury it somewhere where it wouldn’t be found for a thousand years or two and one day it could be proclaimed another testament to the truly idiotic sheep who are apt to believe everything they read…
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Go-Rilla wrote:
Stigg. wrote:
This thread IS off topic for this forum. So here is a pic of Girls Aloud.
The one in the middle deserves her own thread!
I’m having some pretty ‘sinful’ thoughts about her as well! 
HH
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Cheryl Tweedy
Yeah, she’d get it.
Just Google image her, for those who can’t be arsed
clicky
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=cheryl+tweedy&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images
[quote]Dr. Stig wrote:
Fuck it, this thread is offtopic anyway so here is something to really believe in.
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I hate buttons that should pop off but don’t.
Look I really DON’T want to fuck this thread up but here is another of my fave Girls Aloud, however this sort of stuff has more to do with T-Nation than arguing about if we are off to hell or not because some nak-nak says so.
This is Nadine Coyle, to Cheryl Tweedy’s left in the first pic. She makes me lose the power of speech.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dr. Stig wrote:
Fuck it, this thread is offtopic anyway so here is something to really believe in.
I hate buttons that should pop off but don’t.[/quote]
That’s gotta be glued, all the combined energy of guys staring at them would surely loosen that button.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
The East Coast version of Hspder!
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How do I seem to be the E.C. version of Hspder?
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
OK – but where are you getting these “rules of life” from? What objective source are your beliefs rooted? What if you are wrong?
In other words, it seems that you have come up with a set of rules and axioms that call “sin” “wrongs,” and you have invented a way to “fix” these without any authoritative source…
…If the Bible is correct about sin and that the “wages of sin is death,” and there is a day of reckoning to come for all – then you are in peril with respect to your eternal destiny.
While you have every right to believe what you wish – this is America after all – it seems to me that you have no objective source for your beliefs as I do mine.
Both of us cannot be correct – one is and one is not. If I am wrong, then I live a fairly good life, and then “poof” I am gone and nothing else is there. However, if I am correct that the Bible is correct (AND IT IS!) then, I spend eternity with the Lord and you spend eternity cast out into the darkness of fire, burning for eternity.
…Are you sure you want to take this risk?
The bible is only literature, SteveO. Have you ever read any of it? Did you know your only knowledge of Jesus–and God for that matter comes from a book? Jesus is a fictional character, like Macbeth or Hamlet. To say it is truth because it was written is…well…stupid. You might as well glorify Achilles, or Heracles–or even Zeus. Which brings me to a different question? Seriously, this is not rhetorical–why do you believe in and worship Christ as apposed to the Greek and Roman or Norse gods. Is it because it is silly fiction?
The Bible offers little in the way of salvation as you so put it. At best it is a collection of bed-time stories for. If you are sadistic and like giving your children nightmares of the apocalypse read it to them before they go to sleep and have them repeat ‘The Lord’s Prayer’.
I could write a book right now and bury it somewhere where it wouldn’t be found for a thousand years or two and one day it could be proclaimed another testament to the truly idiotic sheep who are apt to believe everything they read…[/quote]
[b] One problem with your whole premise and “reasoning:”
THE BOOK WAS WRITTEN & DIRECTED BY THE GOD OF THE UNIVERSE! [/b]
…and for your information, I have read it many many times over and still read it every single day.
