[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]MementoMori wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]MementoMori wrote:
My meaning is that regardless of how it happens: the average servers wage is around 25-30 dollars an hour. Just because there is some place that makes way less and there is unemployment doesn’t mean that server doesn’t deserve their money.
That logical applies no more to a server who just so happens to reserve tips than it does to you.
As for my making of buck. On a saturday night I make maybe 38 per hour. But I put in alot of work while the bar is closed to make that possible so the average is closer to 25.
What a person makes though is irrelevant to how much they helped you. I tip because my bartender/server/barber did me a long personal service, one for which their salary does NOT reward them.
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This is so stupid I don’t even know where to begin…you really think the average server in america makes 30 fucking dollars an hour?? LMFAO…you live in a fucking fantasy land…I don’t know the stats (but that makes two of us) but there is no way in hell the average server makes anywhere close to that…that is just funny
You keep arguing that these professions are not being REWARDED with their base salary…NO SHIT!!! that is exactly what October Girl has been saying from the get go but you are too dumb to realize it…do you not understand what LIVING WAGE means? Or can you just not comprehend what she is saying when she says she wouldn’t mind them making it??? holy fuck man…[/quote]
I’ve worked in 3 restaurants and 4 night clubs. I know how much we make. I’m not a server I’m a barback and I average almost 30 dollars an hour. This has been discussed over and over. Keep reading, you’ll get there.
I’m well aware what her base point is. My base point is I’m not King Shit and neither are you. I know what a server makes and think it’s not enough. Rather than bitching about it online though, I tip. Big fucking deal. [/quote]
Your sample size is inadequate…I conducted my own double blind placebo study…errr…did a bit of quick research on the internet at a trusted salary site and came up with the following info for food servers ($21,202):
And for bartenders ($17,121):
I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume that barbacks do not make more than their bartending counterparts…
I remember in my food serving days I would work about 25-30 hour weeks, on average ($13/hr food serving, $11/hr bartender)…unless the average bartender in America is only working about 11 hours a week, that $30/hr figure is looking pretty generous…
I think $11-$13/hr sounds about adequate compensation given the education and skill level required…there are fantastic servers out there, but lets not kid ourselves here…
I once had a professor that told us that if you were gonna be good at one thing, be good at math…math is how you can tell when they’re lying to you…
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You made 2 inappropriate assumptions. 1 That 30 dollars an hour is based on a 40 hour work week and 2 that barbacks make less than bartenders (at least at my bar).
My job pays approximately 32000 dollars a year. I make about 600-700 dollars a week working 3 and a half to 5 shifts a week depending how often the bar is open.
AGAIN this has been discussed. Some days I make 8.90 an hour and some days I make over 40 an hour.
The average bartender at my bar does only work 11 hours a week. I work 2 and a half to 3 times more. So in terms of annual income, I make more than bartenders.
All irrelevant and discussed over and over.
AGAIN keeping in mind, as previously stated, that I am fortunate enough to have utmost seniority at a very very busy nightclub. I also have much more responsibility than your standard barback.
Regardless, you said you tip well. Excellent. I’m glad you do.