My bad.
He was ‘unofficially the 698th to cross the finish line among the 39,085 runners that started the race.’
I can’t find anything mentioning he puked during the marathon.
If he did puke, it’s because he ate too many gels or something along those lines and has absolutely nothing to do with running itself.
Lance did pretty well if you ask me.
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
My bad.
He was ‘unofficially the 698th to cross the finish line among the 39,085 runners that started the race.’
I can’t find anything mentioning he puked during the marathon.
If he did puke, it’s because he ate too many gels or something along those lines and has absolutely nothing to do with running itself.[/quote]
don’t need to call anyone retarded, why are you being agressive?
And yes, before the run everybody thought he was going to place among the elite.
Anyone who thought that are kind of retarded. Or ignorant of sports in general. Or sports media guys trying to hype a story for more press.
That’s called being winded. Not puking.
And the aggressiveness is because you say stupid shit.
Running does help. No one said it was the end all be all, but to say running is useless borders on retardation.
Personally I credit most of my endurance in BJJ to running 4-6km regularly. That and 400m intervals. Shit helps. Plus, there’s that mental conditioning that comes into play if you really push yourself.
I don’t run as often due to time constraints and a achy left knee, but it gave me a great aerobic base for grappling (standing and ground). Take that for what it’s worth.
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
That’s called being winded. Not puking.
And the aggressiveness is because you say stupid shit.
Running does help. No one said it was the end all be all, but to say running is useless borders on retardation.[/quote]
What are your credentials retarded keyboard warrior?
aerobic cardio doesn’t do shit for conditioning in the ring
[quote]rundymc wrote:
Personally I credit most of my endurance in BJJ to running 4-6km regularly. That and 400m intervals. Shit helps. Plus, there’s that mental conditioning that comes into play if you really push yourself.
I don’t run as often due to time constraints and a achy left knee, but it gave me a great aerobic base for grappling (standing and ground). Take that for what it’s worth.[/quote]
I agree with the sprints and the grappling giving you the gas tank, aerobic cardio doesn’t do shit for this kind of conditioning
didn’t you gas in your fight?
heheh, nice one.
@kaiser: I did a lot more middle distance running. I think your perception of ‘aerobic conditioning’ may be skewed towards steady-state cardio. SS cardio to me is a jog (5km in 40 minutes or so). A 5km run would take me around 20 minutes and would tax me a great deal.
[quote]drewh wrote:
didn’t you gas in your fight?[/quote]
wow, coming from a guy i never saw a pic, or any videos about his lifting, should i take that as a insult?
[quote]rundymc wrote:
heheh, nice one.
@kaiser: I did a lot more middle distance running. I think your perception of ‘aerobic conditioning’ may be skewed towards steady-state cardio. SS cardio to me is a jog (5km in 40 minutes or so). A 5km run would take me around 20 minutes and would tax me a great deal. [/quote]
ahh, now i got it.
i love sprints but i hate long duration running
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
[quote]drewh wrote:
didn’t you gas in your fight?[/quote]
wow, coming from a guy i never saw a pic, or any videos about his lifting, should i take that as a insult?[/quote]
no but you did gas and running may have helped.
[quote]Melvin Smiley wrote:
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
I don’t know why everybody bashes Tim Sylvia, he never talks trashes to anybody. Maybe just because he looks lanky and fight a safe game plan, but hey the guy was a UFC champ.[/quote]
For real. He’s a bit of a goob, but he’s a BIG dude with legit skills. People sell him short a lot. Hell, I think he sells himself short sometimes. He’s pretty talented though.[/quote]
he’s got a good reach, good sprawl and is pretty experienced…
i just don’t like him because a lot of guys that i know (who know him) think he’s a dick.
for instance, he used to walked around Bettondorf (next to Davenport, IA) with the UFC HW belt on. all the time.
but he’s not an incompetent fighter, by any means…
[quote]drewh wrote:
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
[quote]drewh wrote:
didn’t you gas in your fight?[/quote]
wow, coming from a guy i never saw a pic, or any videos about his lifting, should i take that as a insult?[/quote]
no but you did gas and running may have helped.[/quote]
Yeah, let’s all forget that i went for fun, trained for like 1 month, was only doing PL consistently at the time, and also got the fight of the night trophy.
And no, running wouldn’t help with one month only training, sparring would help and that’s what i did.
and if you think it is better to spend your time running than sparring/training you are either a troll or you have no clue what you are talking about.
I think that steady state cardio would definitely help with an MMA fight, but sparring/training for an actual MMA fight is probably going to be more effective. Conditioning and skills are going to translate from one sport to another sport, but specialization is going to be the best method. To say that one sport will not help at all for another sport or activity just doesn’t make sense. You don’t just all of a sudden start over when you compete in a sport that you are not training for.
As for the fight, it really looked like Pudz exerted himself too much in the beginning. Once he knew he probably wasn’t going to win, it looked like he lost his heart and desire i.e. tapping from punches.
I’ll give my 2 cents on the running cardio debate. I was a swimmer, and it’s pretty much the same situation. In the swimming world there is a lot of debate about the use of dry land conditioning.
Endurance training improves multiple mechanisms to make you better at performing an aerobically intense activity for extended time.
There are general improvements that any form of conditioning can improve. Things along the lines of lung capacity/efficiently, or cardiovascular output. Essentially making your body better at absorbing and transporting oxygen. These things can be trained doing something like running.
However, there are a number of other improvements that are local to specific muscles being used in an activity. Like increase in capillary density, or an increase in mitochondria within a cell. These improvements only benefit endurance activities using particular muscles.
All this to say, it depends on the individual and what their weak and strong points are in regard to conditioning. If a Persons VO2 max sucks, and that makes them tire, running could help a lot. BUT all the running in the world isnâ??t going to help arm endurance if the problem is in the specific structure of the arms.
The benefit to using an out of sport movement to train the general mechanisms of conditioning is that there is a limit to the amount of work you can do in sport. Putting in an extra hour swimming laps may make you too sore to effectively practice tomorrow, but you could go run, increase your work capacity, and not needlessly increase the work volume on muscles you need to practice.
This is just the reasoned opinion of a former swimmer, so take it as you will.
Oh, and watching the fight, I just can’t help but feel Human lungs and a heart aren’t meant to support that much muscle.
very good post, deuce
i like it very much, and i think people are overreacting to pudz loss, he just needs to get used to mma pace and conditioning, i mean he had gas to pull extremely heavy stuff for those distance at strongman, there is no way he can’t do it in mma too.
He just need to take it slower!