The one thing that kinda bummed me out while reading “Hammer of the Gods” was learning about Zeps taking old blues songs and changing them just enough so they didn’t have to give credit to the originators. I mean we all coulda inferred that “When the levee breaks” wasn’t original seeing as there’s no levees in Wales, but it still kinda bummed me out. Even so, they’re still the best band of all time.[/quote]
Oddly, LZ is not even close to the first band/artist to do this with previous blues tracks. Essentially, any blue based music heard after Robert Johnson (and a couple of others from that era) has been borrowed/stolen, or whatever from him. Muddy Waters is another artist whose work (riffs/particular chords) have been used by other artists/bands countless times.
Point is, no one seemed to give a damn until LZ became popular. It was only then that Dixon took them to court.[/quote]
You know man, I’ve heard that Lightning Hopkins is the most sampled blues musician of all time though I didn’t see any evidence to back this up.[/quote]
Well, they didn’t limit their ‘song lifting’ to bluesmen. Here’s a recent lawsuit from a folk singer who claims LZ (actually the Yardbirds w/Page first) lifted “Dazed and Confused”:
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Have you heard the Yardbirds version of Dazed and Confused? There is a clip of it on youtube. I’m so use to hearing Plant sing it that Yardbirds version sounds weird.
The one thing that kinda bummed me out while reading “Hammer of the Gods” was learning about Zeps taking old blues songs and changing them just enough so they didn’t have to give credit to the originators. I mean we all coulda inferred that “When the levee breaks” wasn’t original seeing as there’s no levees in Wales, but it still kinda bummed me out. Even so, they’re still the best band of all time.[/quote]
Oddly, LZ is not even close to the first band/artist to do this with previous blues tracks. Essentially, any blue based music heard after Robert Johnson (and a couple of others from that era) has been borrowed/stolen, or whatever from him. Muddy Waters is another artist whose work (riffs/particular chords) have been used by other artists/bands countless times.
Point is, no one seemed to give a damn until LZ became popular. It was only then that Dixon took them to court.[/quote]
You know man, I’ve heard that Lightning Hopkins is the most sampled blues musician of all time though I didn’t see any evidence to back this up.[/quote]
Well, they didn’t limit their ‘song lifting’ to bluesmen. Here’s a recent lawsuit from a folk singer who claims LZ (actually the Yardbirds w/Page first) lifted “Dazed and Confused”:
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Have you heard the Yardbirds version of Dazed and Confused? There is a clip of it on youtube. I’m so use to hearing Plant sing it that Yardbirds version sounds weird.[/quote]
Yes, I have a live track of the Yardbirds playing it… and compared to Plant it sucks.
Makes me wonder… can a singer have an influence on the way a band even approaches a song? Does a vocalist of great talent pull his bandmates up into another stratosphere? I think so. Zeppelin was unique in that each member was at the top of their game. Imagine if someone like Ozzy Osbourne had been Zep’s frontman. I think we’d be hearing an entirely different beast. Probably not as dynamic to say the least.
(Can you tell I’m just bringing up pointless bullshit just to keep this thread alive and on Page One?)
The one thing that kinda bummed me out while reading “Hammer of the Gods” was learning about Zeps taking old blues songs and changing them just enough so they didn’t have to give credit to the originators. I mean we all coulda inferred that “When the levee breaks” wasn’t original seeing as there’s no levees in Wales, but it still kinda bummed me out. Even so, they’re still the best band of all time.[/quote]
Oddly, LZ is not even close to the first band/artist to do this with previous blues tracks. Essentially, any blue based music heard after Robert Johnson (and a couple of others from that era) has been borrowed/stolen, or whatever from him. Muddy Waters is another artist whose work (riffs/particular chords) have been used by other artists/bands countless times.
Point is, no one seemed to give a damn until LZ became popular. It was only then that Dixon took them to court.[/quote]
You know man, I’ve heard that Lightning Hopkins is the most sampled blues musician of all time though I didn’t see any evidence to back this up.[/quote]
Well, they didn’t limit their ‘song lifting’ to bluesmen. Here’s a recent lawsuit from a folk singer who claims LZ (actually the Yardbirds w/Page first) lifted “Dazed and Confused”:
[/quote]
Have you heard the Yardbirds version of Dazed and Confused? There is a clip of it on youtube. I’m so use to hearing Plant sing it that Yardbirds version sounds weird.[/quote]
Yes, I have a live track of the Yardbirds playing it… and compared to Plant it sucks.
Makes me wonder… can a singer have an influence on the way a band even approaches a song? Does a vocalist of great talent pull his bandmates up into another stratosphere? I think so. Zeppelin was unique in that each member was at the top of their game. Imagine if someone like Ozzy Osbourne had been Zep’s frontman. I think we’d be hearing an entirely different beast. Probably not as dynamic to say the least.
(Can you tell I’m just bringing up pointless bullshit just to keep this thread alive and on Page One?)[/quote]
I plan on purposely bumping this thread so all can appreciate the awesomeness of LZ.
The one thing that kinda bummed me out while reading “Hammer of the Gods” was learning about Zeps taking old blues songs and changing them just enough so they didn’t have to give credit to the originators. I mean we all coulda inferred that “When the levee breaks” wasn’t original seeing as there’s no levees in Wales, but it still kinda bummed me out. Even so, they’re still the best band of all time.[/quote]
Oddly, LZ is not even close to the first band/artist to do this with previous blues tracks. Essentially, any blue based music heard after Robert Johnson (and a couple of others from that era) has been borrowed/stolen, or whatever from him. Muddy Waters is another artist whose work (riffs/particular chords) have been used by other artists/bands countless times.
Point is, no one seemed to give a damn until LZ became popular. It was only then that Dixon took them to court.[/quote]
You know man, I’ve heard that Lightning Hopkins is the most sampled blues musician of all time though I didn’t see any evidence to back this up.[/quote]
Well, they didn’t limit their ‘song lifting’ to bluesmen. Here’s a recent lawsuit from a folk singer who claims LZ (actually the Yardbirds w/Page first) lifted “Dazed and Confused”:
[/quote]
Have you heard the Yardbirds version of Dazed and Confused? There is a clip of it on youtube. I’m so use to hearing Plant sing it that Yardbirds version sounds weird.[/quote]
Yes, I have a live track of the Yardbirds playing it… and compared to Plant it sucks.
Makes me wonder… can a singer have an influence on the way a band even approaches a song?
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Yep.
Ever hear Journey “Pre-Steve Perry”? Different sound altogether. They fucking rocked.
I’m a huge Black Crowes fan… but I wasn’t very keen on the Page/Crowes hookup. Chris Robinson is a great vocalist, but hearing him sing Zep songs didn’t do much for me.
I’m a huge Black Crowes fan… but I wasn’t very keen on the Page/Crowes hookup. Chris Robinson is a great vocalist, but hearing him sing Zep songs didn’t do much for me. [/quote]
I thought is cool for the novelty of it, but that is about it. Like you, I wasn’t overly impressed by any of it.
Hit a big PR in the gym last month with this playing in the background
Met Robert Plant a couple of times (briefly).
I asked him for his autograph the first time. Just as I got out a pen and piece of paper his mobile rang and spoiled the moment, he answered, spoke for about 20 seconds then said something like “actually I can’t talk I’m with a friend, I’ll call you back” and turned it off. Gave me the autograph and made small talk for a bit under a minute.
