[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
There are also 3 Dio-era Sabbath songs that I know of which are very obviously influenced by Zeppelin… at least in parts.
I’ll list them later after I listen through my catalog.[/quote]
Quoting myself… LOL
Okay, off the top of my head, 2 of those Dio-era Sabbath songs are:
“Master of Insanity” (from the Dehumanizer album) sounds like Zep’s “The Wanton Song”
“Slipping Away” (from the Mob Rules album) sounds like Zep’s “Custard Pie”
Hey Steely, I’m really diggin’ this thread. If I was on vacation at the moment, I’d just hang around in this thread all day talkin’ Zeppelin while listening to Zeppelin while sippin’ on a vodka.
You know man, I’ve heard that Lightning Hopkins is the most sampled blues musician of all time though I didn’t see any evidence to back this up.[/quote]
The sound quality of this clip isn’t the best, but the opening riff he plays has been borrowed many times over the years. You’ll probably recognize it.
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Hell, yeah. I’m quite certain the Black Crowes based their entire catalog on Hopkins’ stuff.
And I do love me some Crowes!
I think Jimmy Page will go down as one of the greatest guitarits of all time. That being said, is it just me or does he just sound " sloppy " and not quite as smooth at times? No taking anything away from his great guitar talents, it was just an observation on my part.
Certain things jump out at me when I’m listening to songs. Like other stuff, if you read/understand/study history, even in music, you can understand events that happen later. In the case of music, if you can pick out signature phrasing (every guitar player has a ‘signature’ sound, consciously or unconsciously), then you can hear it in the next generations of music.
Check this out.
Juke Box Hero (Foreigner). Listen to Mick Jones’ solo (start at 3:20, esp. 3:25 and on).
Now listen to Whole Lotta Love (start at 3:15, esp 3:18)
I don’t know if it’s just the tuned ear from playing so long, but phrasings like these just jump out at me when I hear them.
[quote]JACKED71 wrote:
I think Jimmy Page will go down as one of the greatest guitarits of all time. That being said, is it just me or does he just sound " sloppy " and not quite as smooth at times? No taking anything away from his great guitar talents, it was just an observation on my part.[/quote]
Sloppy as fuck.
His genius is in the studio and live improv. I said in another recent thread that I’ve not ever heard anyone (anyone serious) equate Jimmy Page’s live (or later career) performance with ‘precision’.
But, you know what? It don’t mattah, because— He’s Jimmy fucking Page!!! LOL.
The one thing that kinda bummed me out while reading “Hammer of the Gods” was learning about Zeps taking old blues songs and changing them just enough so they didn’t have to give credit to the originators. I mean we all coulda inferred that “When the levee breaks” wasn’t original seeing as there’s no levees in Wales, but it still kinda bummed me out. Even so, they’re still the best band of all time.[/quote]
Oddly, LZ is not even close to the first band/artist to do this with previous blues tracks. Essentially, any blue based music heard after Robert Johnson (and a couple of others from that era) has been borrowed/stolen, or whatever from him. Muddy Waters is another artist whose work (riffs/particular chords) have been used by other artists/bands countless times.
Point is, no one seemed to give a damn until LZ became popular. It was only then that Dixon took them to court.[/quote]
You know man, I’ve heard that Lightning Hopkins is the most sampled blues musician of all time though I didn’t see any evidence to back this up.[/quote]
Well, they didn’t limit their ‘song lifting’ to bluesmen. Here’s a recent lawsuit from a folk singer who claims LZ (actually the Yardbirds w/Page first) lifted “Dazed and Confused”:
You know man, I’ve heard that Lightning Hopkins is the most sampled blues musician of all time though I didn’t see any evidence to back this up.[/quote]
The sound quality of this clip isn’t the best, but the opening riff he plays has been borrowed many times over the years. You’ll probably recognize it.
The one thing that kinda bummed me out while reading “Hammer of the Gods” was learning about Zeps taking old blues songs and changing them just enough so they didn’t have to give credit to the originators. I mean we all coulda inferred that “When the levee breaks” wasn’t original seeing as there’s no levees in Wales, but it still kinda bummed me out. Even so, they’re still the best band of all time.[/quote]
Oddly, LZ is not even close to the first band/artist to do this with previous blues tracks. Essentially, any blue based music heard after Robert Johnson (and a couple of others from that era) has been borrowed/stolen, or whatever from him. Muddy Waters is another artist whose work (riffs/particular chords) have been used by other artists/bands countless times.
Point is, no one seemed to give a damn until LZ became popular. It was only then that Dixon took them to court.[/quote]
You know man, I’ve heard that Lightning Hopkins is the most sampled blues musician of all time though I didn’t see any evidence to back this up.[/quote]
Well, they didn’t limit their ‘song lifting’ to bluesmen. Here’s a recent lawsuit from a folk singer who claims LZ (actually the Yardbirds w/Page first) lifted “Dazed and Confused”:
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Haven’t clicked the link yet so I apologize if this was said, but didn’t they mention this exact thing in “Hammer of the Gods”? It’s been about 2 years since I’ve read it, but I remember the writer going in to pretty deep detail about Zep changing the words and chords around enough on “Dazed” to avoid having to pay royalties. This was actually what I was thinking of when I made the earlier comment.
[quote]JACKED71 wrote:
I think Jimmy Page will go down as one of the greatest guitarits of all time. That being said, is it just me or does he just sound " sloppy " and not quite as smooth at times? No taking anything away from his great guitar talents, it was just an observation on my part.[/quote]
Sloppy as fuck.
His genius is in the studio and live improv. I said in another recent thread that I’ve not ever heard anyone (anyone serious) equate Jimmy Page’s live (or later career) performance with ‘precision’.
But, you know what? It don’t mattah, because— He’s Jimmy fucking Page!!! LOL.[/quote]
QFT!
Steely, if you ever have the chance to see Get The Led Out, do so. They’re awesome. Their one guitarist (they have 2 because it takes 2 mere mortals to equal 1 Page) has Jimmy’s style DOWN. I mean it’s not quite what I would describe as sloppy, but more of a sticking stuttering staccato attack which really feels like Page.
[quote]JACKED71 wrote:
I think Jimmy Page will go down as one of the greatest guitarits of all time. That being said, is it just me or does he just sound " sloppy " and not quite as smooth at times? No taking anything away from his great guitar talents, it was just an observation on my part.[/quote]
Sloppy as fuck.
His genius is in the studio and live improv. I said in another recent thread that I’ve not ever heard anyone (anyone serious) equate Jimmy Page’s live (or later career) performance with ‘precision’.
But, you know what? It don’t mattah, because— He’s Jimmy fucking Page!!! LOL.[/quote]
QFT!
Steely, if you ever have the chance to see Get The Led Out, do so. They’re awesome. Their one guitarist (they have 2 because it takes 2 mere mortals to equal 1 Page) has Jimmy’s style DOWN. I mean it’s not quite what I would describe as sloppy, but more of a sticking stuttering staccato attack which really feels like Page.
Probably one of the best shows I’ve ever seen.[/quote]
They look good! The tone of the music is spot on and the singer really does have RP’s falsetto down. Sounds like they have the full catalog, too-- you hardly ever hear people cover the deep tracks from Physical Grafitti. They have a Theramin, too-- LOL!
They look good! The tone of the music is spot on and the singer really does have RP’s falsetto down. Sounds like they have the full catalog, too-- you hardly ever hear people cover the deep tracks from Physical Grafitti. They have a Theramin, too-- LOL!
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LOL! Well, yeah… the Theramin… frankly one of those elements that I always thought LZ could do without. But what the hell, all the more authentic, huh?
Listening to LZ gives me flashbacks. When I was young, I played The Lemon Song until the needle jumped the groove learning JPJ’s bass riff. What was spontaneous for him proved difficult for me. His basslines are permanently etched in my brain, in a good way.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
The Theramin is kinda creepy. I must broadcast some weird electromagnetic field, because the thing buzzes and shrieks when I come near it.[/quote]
Then just put it in the other room when you’re having sex.
