Thoughts on Supersets

Intensity > volume … volume is NOT the driver of hypertrophy

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Is this data from individuals that look like me, or individuals that look like the average American.

My point being that those who dont know what they’re doing will have the issues you describe, but I’m doubtful that experienced trainees will have this issue - making the data irrelevant for us.

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My guess is that a highly trained person would also be a high risk of noncompliance. I sure would be.

Do you trust that Casey Viator did not take AAS during the Colorado Experiment? I would have if I were he and had the slightest opportunity to do so.

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Not a chance.
I think i called Darden out in his own forum on this in the past.

RE compliance…
I think we have to assume the trainees complied during this study or else the entire study is completely worthless.

I have almost no confidence in 100% human compliance for almost anything.

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Totally fair. I’d just say that’s very individual, but we all always have to do our own cost/ benefit analysis.

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Man this thread got confusing for me in a hurry! lol

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Even non-compliance?

I feel very confident in some human noncompliance for almost any planned endeavor.

Check out the world events forum… liberals are the ultimate conformists… non-ironically

TLDR… cut your volume / up intensity

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At least one dude who looked like Arnold collected similar data.

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This is a shit argument and i think you know this.

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It’s usually jay or ronnie…

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If you’re okay with potentially sacrificing the quality and effectiveness of your sets, supersets are fine.

The only benefit to supersetting exercises is saving time, and maybe helping stabilize assistor muscles of you are unable to do this without directly working your opposing muscles.

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This thought that training to failure is the ONLY method to build a phenomenal physique is just plain inaccurate.

I have seen one guy that had a great physique who did Scott Curls with a 95lb barbell for 5 sets of 8 reps just stopping on the 8th rep. It didn’t look like he was giving any effort, but his biceps exploded. His entire workout was a walk in the park, never lifting much of any weight.

It was commonly known in our circle that Vince Taylor basically just chased a pump and never came close to failure. Don’t you think we scratched our head? How did he get those results with next to no effort?

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Thank you

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Training TO failure all the time is likely counterproductive…BUT… to within 1 or 2 RIR is likely optimal.

Using extremely genetically gifted drug users as rules is folly though. Those guys will grow from ANYTHING

It’s not the only way, but it is the most effective - speaking in generalities.

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Before we get too lost, I think the (Potential) issue here is the short rest periods, and not the order of exercises.

The first graph I posted showed guys who took short rests gained less mass than guys who took longer rests.

@rgruntorad have you ever tried resting a little longer between lifts, or between supersets to see if you can lift way more weight, or get way more reps? And then way more muscle?

And before I forget, another alleged benefit of pairing agonist/antagonist is fascia stretching. So you do like tib raises and calf raises to get as much blood into the lower leg as possible and expand the tight fascia layer to make more room for muscles.

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