Hey I am 31 yrs old 6 ft 200lbs.I have done about 5 cycles in my past,this will be my second Tren ace one and this is the 10 week cycle I was planning on I am open to thoughts and opinions.I will be using the pyramid method as I think that is one of the best methods out there IMO.
Thxs for ur input I have ran 2.5 grams before and had very minor side affects and made insane gainz which I kept most I just want to try that little extra something that will put me over the top if u know what I mean
The beauty of destroying your heart is that you donāt notice it right away. So while you run 2.5g and have few side effects youāre silently killing the thing that is responsible for your continued existence on this earth.
Usually guys who run this amount of gear look like it. I donāt ever ask anyone for pictures (because I donāt actually need to see shirtless dudes) but for what youāre talking about doing you better have a damn good reason. Because you are absolutely abusing these drugs. Outside of the professional circles this kind of cycle is almost universally regarded as reckless.
K so I looked at this program template briefly (not in depth), but how the fuck can one do 3x3 at 100% of their 1RM, thatās impossible is it not.
Iād love to do a program like this (strength and mass orientated), but my fucking joints canāt take the heavy lifting (itās always light/moderate weight for high reps), itās always held me back somewhat I think.
I can go moderately heavy for my small size (CAN bench over 225), but itās not worth it, Iād rather do like 60kg for 25 reps, doesnāt fuck my shoulders/rotator cuffs nearly as much.
But I do @jpoutlaws13 letās see a pic, youāre 6 ft 200lb yet youāve run these insane doses. You must either look great and have 5% BF or something or have terrible diet and training
I just care of a bulking cycle so this is what I was planning on cutting I gained more than I would have liked when I bulked and I do bodybuilding but I am not a pro I would consider my self average tbh but I c what u mean ironyuppie this is high dosage but I was thinking of doing it once and than slowly going of gear in maybe the next year but i am open to adjusting the dosages as long as you have had past experiences on that dosage Thxs
Iām all about using multiple compounds and I donāt prescribe to the ārun it super low at 200mg/weekā
But the doses you have listed are just ridiculous.
First off there is no need to pyramid any of these drugs. The only thing your going tk acomplish with that is unstable levels. 9 weeks is too long to run winstrol.
Bro just keep it simple run sus and tren at ānormalā doses (around 300-500)and add winstrol at 50mg/day for last 4-6 weeks
There is literally no benefit to running a gram of tren a week vs 500mg week.
At what levels? The ones I suggested or the ones you suggested. I would never run tren that high.
Im currently using low test high tren at 200/400 a week respectively and masteron at 500 Iām doing a recomp In a calorie deficit and making amazing muscle gains. And Great fat loss.
Even professional body builders donāt use tren at 1 gram a week. Because there is literally no point.
Thats crazy. Iām 230 6 foot an relatively low in BF and I would never do that. I work out with guys 240-250 8% bodyfat who donāt run that kind of gear.
You need to research demnishing returns.
The concept behind running a gram of Tren a week literally makes no sense. Thatās not how the compound works. And anyone who is using it like that is abusing it and extremely uneducated. I would not listen to anything they say or follow in thier footsteps.
Ok I would like to know what u would recommend than on my cycle Iām for sure keeping Sustanon and Winny with Tren but what dosages would you recommend?
I hate this question. I donāt know nearly enough about you to reccomend dosages Iām also not a coach or claim to be. But Iām going to strictly for the sake of hopefully preventing you from using the doses you planned.
For me I prefer low testosterone over high but I donāt think you would agree so il suggest this.
Testosterone 500mg/week
Tren 4-500mg/week
Winstrol 50mg/day for last 4-6 weeks
These doses I listed are still probably higher then what you need but I figured giving you anything lower you wouldnāt listen. So this is a max reccomendation.
Ok thxs a lot Zeek tbh I will probs do tht one last question though why would u only run Winny for 4-6 weeks Iāve previously taken it for 10 weeks and did just find at a 60 mg a day? And had no side affects from it except the slight irration from the joints