Actually it’s me, ProX, Big Boss, and Lixy at an “Overcoming Racial Barriers” conference. We came in first place for “Funniest Costume.”
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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
People are so shallow.
…and blind to any part of the world outside of their own little one.
Russel Simmons CREATED the look that many people copy in Hip-Hop. His wife is influential as well when it comes to “Apple Bottom Jeans”. That means they consider his look a “non thug look” yet the people who dress like him to be thugs?
I could care less what Russel Simmons created. I could care less about the wider range of Hip-Hop look. The styles I’ve shown here recieve a much different sort of attention from me.
Then how and the hell do you expect anyone to buy your argument. YOUR BIASED. Like I said…YOUR perception of what a “thug” looks like are only based on your bad experiences in your personal world and are not general enough.
No, your biased against me and my life experiences.
Tell me how so…and I will apologize.[/quote]
By attempting to belittle my rationale survival instincts developed through my real world experiences. By being absurd about burning your clothes, when I’ve said it a million times, that it’s not like I’d shoot your or yell for a cop, because you’re dressed up like “Tru Thugz.” Now, if it bothers you that I’ll watch where your hands are as you pass me by dressed like “Tru Thugz,” too bad for you.
It’s cute when people talk about the guilt and responsibility of White America in general, yet get offended at my judgement calls based on dress and attitude. Ok, I’m done hijacking “collective guilt.”
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
People are so shallow.
…and blind to any part of the world outside of their own little one.
Russel Simmons CREATED the look that many people copy in Hip-Hop. His wife is influential as well when it comes to “Apple Bottom Jeans”. That means they consider his look a “non thug look” yet the people who dress like him to be thugs?
I could care less what Russel Simmons created. I could care less about the wider range of Hip-Hop look. The styles I’ve shown here recieve a much different sort of attention from me.
Then how and the hell do you expect anyone to buy your argument. YOUR BIASED. Like I said…YOUR perception of what a “thug” looks like are only based on your bad experiences in your personal world and are not general enough.
No, your biased against me and my life experiences.
Tell me how so…and I will apologize.
By attempting to belittle my rationale survival instincts developed through my real world experiences. By being absurd about burning your clothes. When I said it a million times that it’s not like I’d shoot your, or yell for a cop, because you want to dress like “Tru Thugz.” Now, if it bothers you that I might watch where your hands are, as you pass me by dressed like “Tru Thugz,” too bad for you.[/quote]
I’m dissappointed…I don’t get to apologize 
Thats not bias…thats disagreeing with what YOU YOURSELF has posted. Remember,you stated “My experience is life.” as if to BELITTLE my and other’s life experiences.
You’re whittling down from when you initially started this argument about what a criminal thug looks like…your stance has swayed. Oh,and I don’t dress like that,thank you. I don’t want to look like a thug.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Professor X wrote:
"…Evil doesn’t have a dress code. When will some people figure this out?
Why haven’t people figured this out? It only takes a blink of an eye for someone to become a “criminal.”
Because violent street crimes aren’t being committed by the guys wearing dockers and button collar shirts.
lol…you’re funny 
No, I’m experienced in life.
Well,you and billions of other people have something in common. Get real.
I’m being real. Unfortunately, some folks around here foolishly cling to PC sentiments. And, can’t even be honest. Neighborhoods aren’t being shot up by guys that looks like this. He isn’t the guy one worries about, because he’s behind you waiting to use the ATM. That guy isn’t going to rob me, or car jack me, or jump me with a bunch of his friends because he doesn’t like my pasty skin color.
Didn’t he work in the top echelon at Enron?Or Worldcom?
Oh no ,wait,that would be us white guys…
Since we’re talking crime and all that.
What?! I can take the white collar criminal to court, later on. Hopefully, in the scenario of a violent street crime, I’m not bleeding out from a gun shot wound. Than there is no recovery for damage if some thug has blown my brains out for the $20 I had on me… Ugh, please follow along.
Because of course all the people that lost their savings and pensions,they’re really capable of going to court and didn’t have their lives destroyed in the least…
What is it with you? I’ve been poor most my life! Guess what, I was still alive! Being poor doesn’t break facial bones and blind someone in one eye. A group of thugs will do that for your wallet. You see, I can recover from poverty (been there).
Of course, I’ll use any means avialable to watch for any white collar crimes that might snare me. But, I’m not going to get robbed at gunpoint by the guy in a business suit. I’m not going to sit there wondering if he’s going to let me go home. Or, if he’s going to ventilate my cranium, even if I cooperate, just to make sure I can’t give a description to the police.
Follow along.[/quote]
Ah I see,that must be your all pervasive life experience coming to the fore.
Let me enlighten you a bit.A variation of what I’m about to describe has happened to three people that I personally know,so while it’s only anecdotal,they are corroborated.
Well dressed (business suits in two cases.Your beloved khaki dockers wearer in the other)stroll into a dealership,express interest in a particular car,blah blah…then off they go on the test drive,salesman in the car continuing his sales palaver.All is going swimmingly.
Well dressed customer pulls out gun,stops at side of the road and in two cases orders the guy out of the car.In the third he shoots first,pushes the guy out of the car.
Three successful hijackings,all well dressed,non thuggish looking perpetrators.
There are many more stories,all documented,but it just gets redundant.You
can get robbed,shot and all many of other by men in suits.In fact,they rely on your sterotyped thinking in order to do it.
Care to reassses?
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
You’re whittling down from when you initially started this argument about what a criminal thug looks like…your stance has swayed. Oh,and I don’t dress like that,thank you. I don’t want to look like a thug. [/quote]
What are you talking about? Whittling down? In what way? I’ve not changed my position at all. Feel free to illustrate where my argument has changed.
Why don’t you dress like that, by the way? Honestly, why don’t you dress like “Tru Thugs.”
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Sloth wrote:
And, “frightened” is too strong of a word, by the way. I’m more alert. My reaction is to keep him in my peripheral. And, if the person seems to be headed straight for me, I’ll make direct eye contact and say, “hello, how are you doing?” Then I’ll see what happens next. It’s not as if I’m pulling a gun and screaming for a cop. My instincts are built from real world experiences. And though I’m one of those collectively guilty, white americans you fear, my life experiences might just count for something.
No, most of us would still call that “frightened”.
You can come up with as many names for it as you wish, but it won’t change much. Unless someone is threatening you, your own level of alert based on appearance is nothing but fear of what you think MAY happen.
Not buying your tough guy act either.
You might like to describe yourself as this huge, martial arts trained, omniscient badass, but I live in the real world. In the real world you make priorities of where your awareness focuses. Because, unlike your fantasy image of yourself, human beings can’t be aware of everything around them at all times. Doesn’t happen. You can sit here and continue spinning tall tales about yourself, but human limitations are fact. The things people will lie about, in order to duck conceeding a point. I swear.[/quote]
What is being lied about? My pics are in my profile. If you want to believe that I am “cautious” of someone based on Hip hop wear, you are delusional. I don’t judge people like that. If I am stopped at a stoplight at 3 in then morning, my eye will be attentive to ANYONE AT ALL walking around my car. Their style of dress is irrelevant.
You keep showing how shallow you are while degradiing others for not holding the same views.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Professor X wrote:
"…Evil doesn’t have a dress code. When will some people figure this out?
Why haven’t people figured this out? It only takes a blink of an eye for someone to become a “criminal.”
Because violent street crimes aren’t being committed by the guys wearing dockers and button collar shirts.
lol…you’re funny
No, I’m experienced in life.
Well,you and billions of other people have something in common. Get real.
I’m being real. Unfortunately, some folks around here foolishly cling to PC sentiments. And, can’t even be honest. Neighborhoods aren’t being shot up by guys that looks like this. He isn’t the guy one worries about, because he’s behind you waiting to use the ATM. That guy isn’t going to rob me, or car jack me, or jump me with a bunch of his friends because he doesn’t like my pasty skin color.
Didn’t he work in the top echelon at Enron?Or Worldcom?
Oh no ,wait,that would be us white guys…
Since we’re talking crime and all that.
What?! I can take the white collar criminal to court, later on. Hopefully, in the scenario of a violent street crime, I’m not bleeding out from a gun shot wound. Than there is no recovery for damage if some thug has blown my brains out for the $20 I had on me… Ugh, please follow along.
Because of course all the people that lost their savings and pensions,they’re really capable of going to court and didn’t have their lives destroyed in the least…
What is it with you? I’ve been poor most my life! Guess what, I was still alive! Being poor doesn’t break facial bones and blind someone in one eye. A group of thugs will do that for your wallet. You see, I can recover from poverty (been there).
Of course, I’ll use any means avialable to watch for any white collar crimes that might snare me. But, I’m not going to get robbed at gunpoint by the guy in a business suit. I’m not going to sit there wondering if he’s going to let me go home. Or, if he’s going to ventilate my cranium, even if I cooperate, just to make sure I can’t give a description to the police.
Follow along.
Ah I see,that must be your all pervasive life experience coming to the fore.
Let me enlighten you a bit.A variation of what I’m about to describe has happened to three people that I personally know,so while it’s only anecdotal,they are corroborated.
Well dressed (business suits in two cases.Your beloved khaki dockers wearer in the other)stroll into a dealership,express interest in a particular car,blah blah…then off they go on the test drive,salesman in the car continuing his sales palaver.All is going swimmingly.
Well dressed customer pulls out gun,stops at side of the road and in two cases orders the guy out of the car.In the third he shoots first,pushes the guy out of the car.
Three successful hijackings,all well dressed,non thuggish looking perpetrators.
There are many more stories,all documented,but it just gets redundant.You
can get robbed,shot and all many of other by men in suits.In fact,they rely on your sterotyped thinking in order to do it.
Care to reassses?
[/quote]
Do you live in a city? Please, find your local crime blotter. The robbery’s and violent crimes, by far, aren’t being carried out by offenders wearing suits. The business suit gimmick is about as common as the Barbie Doll bank robbers.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
You’re whittling down from when you initially started this argument about what a criminal thug looks like…your stance has swayed. Oh,and I don’t dress like that,thank you. I don’t want to look like a thug.
What are you talking about? Whittling down? In what way? I’ve not changed my position at all. Feel free to illustrate where my argument has changed.
Why don’t you dress like that, by the way? Honestly, why don’t you dress like “Tru Thugs.”[/quote]
Cause all the “Tru Thugs.” are DEAD edit I’m bullshitting around. I just never dressed that way…but I do dress similar to Russell Simmons. In fact,I have a Phat Farm shirt on in a pic on my profile.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Sloth wrote:
And, “frightened” is too strong of a word, by the way. I’m more alert. My reaction is to keep him in my peripheral. And, if the person seems to be headed straight for me, I’ll make direct eye contact and say, “hello, how are you doing?” Then I’ll see what happens next. It’s not as if I’m pulling a gun and screaming for a cop. My instincts are built from real world experiences. And though I’m one of those collectively guilty, white americans you fear, my life experiences might just count for something.
No, most of us would still call that “frightened”.
You can come up with as many names for it as you wish, but it won’t change much. Unless someone is threatening you, your own level of alert based on appearance is nothing but fear of what you think MAY happen.
Not buying your tough guy act either.
You might like to describe yourself as this huge, martial arts trained, omniscient badass, but I live in the real world. In the real world you make priorities of where your awareness focuses. Because, unlike your fantasy image of yourself, human beings can’t be aware of everything around them at all times. Doesn’t happen. You can sit here and continue spinning tall tales about yourself, but human limitations are fact. The things people will lie about, in order to duck conceeding a point. I swear.
What is being lied about? My pics are in my profile. If you want to believe that I am “cautious” of someone based on Hip hop wear, you are delusional. I don’t judge people like that. If I am stopped at a stoplight at 3 in then morning, my eye will be attentive to ANYONE AT ALL walking around my car. Their style of dress is irrelevant.
You keep showing how shallow you are while degradiing others for not holding the same views.
[/quote]
Why are you biased against people out late at night? And, I’ve twice now, in two different threads, made it clear that a “hip-hop” style of dress, in general, does not translate to “thug gear” to me. I have illustrated this myself…
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
You’re whittling down from when you initially started this argument about what a criminal thug looks like…your stance has swayed. Oh,and I don’t dress like that,thank you. I don’t want to look like a thug.
What are you talking about? Whittling down? In what way? I’ve not changed my position at all. Feel free to illustrate where my argument has changed.
Why don’t you dress like that, by the way? Honestly, why don’t you dress like “Tru Thugs.”
Cause all the “Tru Thugs.” are DEAD.period.[/quote]
I guess it’s their ghosts holding up the convenience stores around here.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What is being lied about? My pics are in my profile. [/quote]
Um, great. You have photos of yourself wearing training gear and flexing. What was I supposed to get from them?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
You’re whittling down from when you initially started this argument about what a criminal thug looks like…your stance has swayed. Oh,and I don’t dress like that,thank you. I don’t want to look like a thug.
What are you talking about? Whittling down? In what way? I’ve not changed my position at all. Feel free to illustrate where my argument has changed.
Why don’t you dress like that, by the way? Honestly, why don’t you dress like “Tru Thugs.”
Cause all the “Tru Thugs.” are DEAD.period.
I guess it’s their ghosts holding about the convenience stores around here.[/quote]
I tried to edit that…I was just bullshitting about that statement. But seriously,you started this whole relating crime to dress crap…AGAIN. WITHOUT A FULL UNDERSTANDING of a particular CULTURE,its too broad of a topic for most to even debate…period. Your argument was started with bias,remember that.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
You’re whittling down from when you initially started this argument about what a criminal thug looks like…your stance has swayed. Oh,and I don’t dress like that,thank you. I don’t want to look like a thug.
What are you talking about? Whittling down? In what way? I’ve not changed my position at all. Feel free to illustrate where my argument has changed.
Why don’t you dress like that, by the way? Honestly, why don’t you dress like “Tru Thugs.”
Cause all the “Tru Thugs.” are DEAD.period.
I guess it’s their ghosts holding about the convenience stores around here.
I tried to edit that…I was just bullshitting about that statement. But seriously,you started this whole relating crime to dress crap…AGAIN. WITHOUT A FULL UNDERSTANDING of a particular CULTURE,its too broad of a topic for most to even debate…period. Your argument was started with bias,remember that. [/quote]
A full understanding of what culture?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Professor X wrote:
What is being lied about? My pics are in my profile.
Um, great. You have photos of yourself wearing training gear and flexing. What was I supposed to get from them?[/quote]
You are the one claiming I am “acting” by saying I don’t fear other people like that. I am a 270lbs man who looks the way I do in my pics. Why the fuck would I be afraid of some guy in Hip Hop gear?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Professor X wrote:
What is being lied about? My pics are in my profile.
Um, great. You have photos of yourself wearing training gear and flexing. What was I supposed to get from them?[/quote]
I don’t know what you’re supposed to get, but I’m sure that boner wasn’t it.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Professor X wrote:
"…Evil doesn’t have a dress code. When will some people figure this out?
Why haven’t people figured this out? It only takes a blink of an eye for someone to become a “criminal.”
Because violent street crimes aren’t being committed by the guys wearing dockers and button collar shirts.
lol…you’re funny
No, I’m experienced in life.
Well,you and billions of other people have something in common. Get real.
I’m being real. Unfortunately, some folks around here foolishly cling to PC sentiments. And, can’t even be honest. Neighborhoods aren’t being shot up by guys that looks like this. He isn’t the guy one worries about, because he’s behind you waiting to use the ATM. That guy isn’t going to rob me, or car jack me, or jump me with a bunch of his friends because he doesn’t like my pasty skin color.
Didn’t he work in the top echelon at Enron?Or Worldcom?
Oh no ,wait,that would be us white guys…
Since we’re talking crime and all that.
What?! I can take the white collar criminal to court, later on. Hopefully, in the scenario of a violent street crime, I’m not bleeding out from a gun shot wound. Than there is no recovery for damage if some thug has blown my brains out for the $20 I had on me… Ugh, please follow along.
Because of course all the people that lost their savings and pensions,they’re really capable of going to court and didn’t have their lives destroyed in the least…
What is it with you? I’ve been poor most my life! Guess what, I was still alive! Being poor doesn’t break facial bones and blind someone in one eye. A group of thugs will do that for your wallet. You see, I can recover from poverty (been there).
Of course, I’ll use any means avialable to watch for any white collar crimes that might snare me. But, I’m not going to get robbed at gunpoint by the guy in a business suit. I’m not going to sit there wondering if he’s going to let me go home. Or, if he’s going to ventilate my cranium, even if I cooperate, just to make sure I can’t give a description to the police.
Follow along.
Ah I see,that must be your all pervasive life experience coming to the fore.
Let me enlighten you a bit.A variation of what I’m about to describe has happened to three people that I personally know,so while it’s only anecdotal,they are corroborated.
Well dressed (business suits in two cases.Your beloved khaki dockers wearer in the other)stroll into a dealership,express interest in a particular car,blah blah…then off they go on the test drive,salesman in the car continuing his sales palaver.All is going swimmingly.
Well dressed customer pulls out gun,stops at side of the road and in two cases orders the guy out of the car.In the third he shoots first,pushes the guy out of the car.
Three successful hijackings,all well dressed,non thuggish looking perpetrators.
There are many more stories,all documented,but it just gets redundant.You
can get robbed,shot and all many of other by men in suits.In fact,they rely on your sterotyped thinking in order to do it.
Care to reassses?
Do you live in a city? Please, find your local crime blotter. The robbery’s and violent crimes, by far, aren’t being carried out by offenders wearing suits. The business suit gimmick is about as common as the Barbie Doll bank robbers.[/quote]
The well dressed criminal issue is pretty common where I live.I’m sure your heartfelt empathy towards towards the victims of those particular criminals will make them all feel better,because “Gee,what where the odds ?” is really comforting.
You’ve obviously got it all waxed and good luck to you.
Oh,and I don’t dress like “Tru Thugz” because…simply,I don’t dress like that. Mind you,I do feel some dress is age appropriate and also screams more about social acceptance in today’s society than anything.
Prof X…have many people at your job seen you outside of work? And if so,has anyone “raised a brow” as to how you dress outside of work?? As if they’re suprised or some shit??
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Professor X wrote:
"…Evil doesn’t have a dress code. When will some people figure this out?
Why haven’t people figured this out? It only takes a blink of an eye for someone to become a “criminal.”
Because violent street crimes aren’t being committed by the guys wearing dockers and button collar shirts.
lol…you’re funny
No, I’m experienced in life.
Well,you and billions of other people have something in common. Get real.
I’m being real. Unfortunately, some folks around here foolishly cling to PC sentiments. And, can’t even be honest. Neighborhoods aren’t being shot up by guys that looks like this. He isn’t the guy one worries about, because he’s behind you waiting to use the ATM. That guy isn’t going to rob me, or car jack me, or jump me with a bunch of his friends because he doesn’t like my pasty skin color.
Didn’t he work in the top echelon at Enron?Or Worldcom?
Oh no ,wait,that would be us white guys…
Since we’re talking crime and all that.
What?! I can take the white collar criminal to court, later on. Hopefully, in the scenario of a violent street crime, I’m not bleeding out from a gun shot wound. Than there is no recovery for damage if some thug has blown my brains out for the $20 I had on me… Ugh, please follow along.
Because of course all the people that lost their savings and pensions,they’re really capable of going to court and didn’t have their lives destroyed in the least…
What is it with you? I’ve been poor most my life! Guess what, I was still alive! Being poor doesn’t break facial bones and blind someone in one eye. A group of thugs will do that for your wallet. You see, I can recover from poverty (been there).
Of course, I’ll use any means avialable to watch for any white collar crimes that might snare me. But, I’m not going to get robbed at gunpoint by the guy in a business suit. I’m not going to sit there wondering if he’s going to let me go home. Or, if he’s going to ventilate my cranium, even if I cooperate, just to make sure I can’t give a description to the police.
Follow along.
Ah I see,that must be your all pervasive life experience coming to the fore.
Let me enlighten you a bit.A variation of what I’m about to describe has happened to three people that I personally know,so while it’s only anecdotal,they are corroborated.
Well dressed (business suits in two cases.Your beloved khaki dockers wearer in the other)stroll into a dealership,express interest in a particular car,blah blah…then off they go on the test drive,salesman in the car continuing his sales palaver.All is going swimmingly.
Well dressed customer pulls out gun,stops at side of the road and in two cases orders the guy out of the car.In the third he shoots first,pushes the guy out of the car.
Three successful hijackings,all well dressed,non thuggish looking perpetrators.
There are many more stories,all documented,but it just gets redundant.You
can get robbed,shot and all many of other by men in suits.In fact,they rely on your sterotyped thinking in order to do it.
Care to reassses?
Do you live in a city? Please, find your local crime blotter. The robbery’s and violent crimes, by far, aren’t being carried out by offenders wearing suits. The business suit gimmick is about as common as the Barbie Doll bank robbers.
The well dressed criminal issue is pretty common where I live.I’m sure your heartfelt empathy towards towards the victims of those particular criminals will make them all feel better,because “Gee,what where the odds ?” is really comforting.
You’ve obviously got it all waxed and good luck to you.[/quote]
Oh sure. The violent crime around your city is largely committed by folks in suits. Sorry, but I bet it’s but a blip on the crime scene.
I live in Atlanta. Feel free to go through the different crime reports and blotters. Not happening in business suits. What city do you live in? I’ll be glad to do a little surfing through it’s blotters and crime reports.