Thoughts on Anadrol

Pharma / TRT
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Right, assuming HCG is kept to something reasonable. I’d suggest dosing such as 100 IU/day, 200 IU/eod, or 250 IU 3x/week.

That’s generally speaking.

If estrogen issues were a problem anyway, or there was a pre-existing gyno problem, then it would be better with the presence of the Anadrol to use the HGC as minimally as still achieving low-normal estradiol. Which for some reason somehow doesn’t seem to get along so well with high estrogen.

Now those doses of HCG produce only normal estrogen in typical cases but if someone were high-estrogen with their natural T, they probably would be with this as well. Rather than stack the HCG with an aromatase inhibitor, I’d just cut the HCG, for example in half, in such a case. But for most the regular dose is fine along with Anadrol.

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Bill,

Thanks! I’m probably going to run this in a 2 on 2 off fashion. No pre-existing gyno, but I did notice that at higher levels of test, my nips get “sensitive”. never any swelling or shape change though. This is one of the reasons I’d like to keep estro levels low.

I KNOW you like to keep estrogen leves at normalish levels. Other than libido and lipid profiles, what is the purpose of this?

If I run these 2 orals several times in a 2 on, 2 off fashion, do you think there’s a need for any sort of liver protection? These are both relatively harsh compounds for the ol’ liver, eh? If so, what would you recommend?

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Well, for me low libido and feeling depressed is enough reason to want to stay in the normal range, with low-normal absolutely fine for that, and you’re right regarding blood lipids as well (though if using Clomid during a cycle it may be the case that it can substitute for estrogen for this purpose, however these days I don’t do that) but also just out of general philosophy I don’t prefer driving something which in fact has good use in the body, when at proper levels, to abnormally low levels when there is no upside to doing so and it can be prevented.

Also many who have experimented with AI’s and overdid it have really not liked it, as well as most of those using, against all advice, trenbolone-only or other non-aromatizing completely-suppressive cycles for more than just briefly, so it seems a general finding that driving estrogen too low isn’t good.

On the liver protection, while it’s a good-enough sounding idea I’m not aware of any evidence (that doesn’t prove it doesn’t exist, it just means I’m not aware of it) that there’s anything that does anything for the effect of 17-alkylateds.

There’s at least one study showing milk thistle to do nothing in some animal for this purpose. Not that milk thistle is a bad thing: it’s a good supplement. But whether it makes a difference in this application, I don’t know. Certainly against the most severe potential problem, hepatic cholestasis, it can do nothing.

Doing 2 on / 2 off you should have no liver issues.

The biggest issue with 17-alkylateds, by far IMO, is duration of use. Not daily dosage – a lot can be tolerated there – but duration. In other words I would rather see someone take say 300 mg of alkylateds a day 2 on / 2 off or in traditional cycles with the alkylated use not exceeding 6 weeks at a time, than see someone take 5 mg a day indefinitely. This is based on there being cases of women suffering serious liver problems from as little ongoing use as that.

The liver regenerates quickly, when the insult is removed. Your giving it the off time that you are is all that is needed, I believe, to stay safe with it.

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[quote]

  • All Literature i have read points to dangers of anadrol [/quote]

This must not have included medical literature. Anadrol, by itself, has a quite shiny track record medically. Nothing to point to except the same thing true of all 17-alkylateds, and no worse there for Anadrol than for any of them.

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Honestly, to the OP if you havent used Anadrol before then you’re in for quite a trip. You are going to have to use it yourself before you can have any clue as to how harsh it will be to you. Like for myself, Anadrol really gives me slim to no sides.

Few things though…

1- I hope you dont plan on using Anadrol solo.

2- Dosage… dont even bother going above 100mg. Anadrol is not dose dependent like most other compounds. If you go above 100mg ED your sides will start outweighing the benefits.

Another thing… you will notice very quick gains in weight and strength and after about 3-4 weeks you’ll slowly watch them taper off.

(I did not read this entire post so if any of this is repetitive knowledge my apologies. I tend to skim through threads if I start reading flaming)

BMC

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Gentleman; All that being said., and quite well I may add should 100 mg of anadrol be split up by 50 in the am and 50 mg in the evening or together. It “seems” to me it would be better to split with a considerable amount of water at that time. Thoughts please?

                                              .H.
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Due forgive me, thank you for your insight Brook. I didn’t see page too.

                              .H.
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done it five different times love that shit. besy gains eva on 100mg day plus 50 mg day of dianabol

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from the package insert…1-5mg/kg for a MINIMUM of 3-6months this is for sick anemic patients…somehow i am doubting all the “anything over 150mg is dangerous stories”

a PERFECT example of bro-knowledge that has been carried for YEARS

so upper end for a 250lb guy would be 668mg per day for 3-6 months…now i certainly wouldn’t want to do that but the fact is the lowest recommended dose would be 113mg per day for 3-6 months … somewhere many years ago someone decided that 50mg of anadrol a day was the safe limit with the real renegades trying 100-150…when in reality they are gicing people MUCH more than that regularly in a real world application everyday for extended periods.

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Morepain,
You seem to have been around the block with these things quite a few times = ), do you prefer anadrol over dianabol? What has been your favorite cycle so far?

Thanks

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no i don’t like anadrol at all. it just causes too much water retention for my liking. regardless of what you take to prevent it i personally have never seen anyone on an adequate dose that didn’t look like crap. Its just not the look i am after. If your goal is big and bloated regardless of appearance than its the ticket for sure (not judging…hell that use to be me) but for a good all around oral i think dianabol is hard to beat.

that being said (since that is all just my own personal experience) i have known some to get great results from teh following protocol. again this is from my personal experience with guys that i know so take it for what its worth.

say set yourself up a 16 week cycle (truth be known most of the guys i deal with never come off they just keep repeating the pattern)

weeks 1-4
50mg dbol daily
750-1000mg test enathate weekly
400-600 deca weekly

weeks 5-8
no oral
750-1000mg test enathate weekly
400-600 deca weekly

weeks 9-12
100mg anadrol daily
750-1000mg test enathate weekly
400-600 deca weekly

weeks 13-16
no oral
750-1000mg test enathate weekly
400-600 deca weekly

just a basic framework…of course an individual will have to decide how much AI/hcg or whatever to add based on their own experiences.

i am not recommending this so i don’t need any CYCLE NAZIS picking it apart. its a basic frame work and the way it is typically used is in rotation non stop. occasionally they will sub eq for the deca, also twice per year bloodwork is done to check liver values…if there are issues the orals are discontinued for 6 months and then test again. normally there are no issues.

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no as for me personally , being non-competitive…i love the combination of a decent dose of test (500mg or so) and masteron 300-400 mg. very mild and i get a nice overall look from it. or if your a short acting guy test prop/mast prop is another favorite. Most guys will go to the holy grail of short acting drugs (tren) but it just fucks with me at any dose so i don’t use it.