Thought that the guys would enjoy this...

I am aware it was not a real story, but the ‘good idea’ posts are getting annoying. I agree with Patricia. I’m sorry, I ‘give it up’ when I want to, not because my boyfriend gave me a gift. Both of us find great enjoyment in each others company, you’ll understand that someday, I hope. (Yes, of course, a physical realtionship is improtant too, but no one ‘deserves’ to get some.)

First of all, no, this did not actually happen to me. I got it as an email and thought that a lot of you would find it funny. I never really thought about mentioning this before I posted the story. Anyway, to Michelle, you sound like a very bitter woman that took this personally. Lighten up…

Ladies, whatsa matta? Don’t like having the tables turned on you? Patricia and Michelle: Do we need to bring back that flowers thread? We can easily go back to it to see how you are talking from both sides of the fence. Michelle, why do you say “no one deserves to get some”??? Oh, you’re a prize? “getting some” from you is a prize? I think not. It’s something between 2 people, not because someone deserves it. The advice these women give stinks. It’s smacks totally of woman bias. Michelle’s solution to everything is “buy her_____” Please!

Don’t whine at me. Look at my first post - it was funny. My sceond was in reaction to the posts after mine, and my last was also in reaction to other posts. Bitter? Not at all! I have a wonderful boyfriend who treats me very very well, and yes, I have gotten random gifts from him, just as I have given random gifts to him. I resent the implication that I am more likely to ‘give it up’ because he did something nice for me. (And howcome you didn’t tell Particia to lighten up too? grin Sorry, Patricia, just trying to share the blame!!!)

Michelle: all is kewl. First of all, if you’re gonna ask me “what to buy” for your sig other and seriously need an answer - I’m gonna do my best to answer. Geez. Secondly, if you ask me do you think people should expect “treats and trinkets” from their sig others? I’ll answer a big fat NO. You can ask the man of my life if I have ever expected anything from him. He’d answer NO and “btw, she has a habit of gettting me li’l surprises…” And what the hell is “women bias”? Especially when this forum is more of a sausage-fest. The statement is pretty rediculous. Y’know I AM a pretty light hearted person - however in this forum I see way too many “women this” and “men this” and is getting rather grating. Especially for me, who has never ever drawn a gender line on behaviour - I travel onto the Off-Topic occasionally- but I prefer the Training/Nutrition. I think I’m gonna stay there for awhile.

Dude that’s awesome!!! Ha! I love it when women get a taste of their own medicine!!!

B.S. I still ain’t buying it. My sig other is as close as you can get to a t-vixen as you can be w/out working out. She works, takes care of our little ranch, does the mech repair work, etc. Still, I can tell she appreciates it when she gets a gift. And while I couldn’t say that she would give it up for a gift, I do think it sets the mood. BTW – you two must be rare women indeed. Do you go dutch when you eat out, too?

That was classic, Kudos on a well executed plan!!

Any woman is more willing to give it up if the man comes packing a gift…You girls are full of shit, Sorry.

I can not spek for mchelle as i do not know her personally but patricia is my t-vixen (she works out). i do not need to go out and buy little trinkets just to get some. The idea that relationships are based on material possesions is crap. If you need to buy your “girl” trinkets to get laid then you have a pretty shitty relationship. This thread reminds me of that nice guys thread awhile back. Remember Brocks story??? The problem with you guys is that you are out there looking for those wimpy little trophy brides who need to be pampered and taken care of, and the only thing they can do in return is give it up, or “take care of the ranch” . Maybe you should look start looking for a real woman, a real t-vixen(they are out there if you pull your head out and look around), and quit picking on the ones that post on this site, or maybe you don’t have enough testosterone to handle a real woman.

Oh yeah not only do we go dutch, many times she pays.

Ok, to all the guys on this thread who claim that women are more likely to “put out” when they receive a gift…well, you’re right. But not for the reasons that you claim (at last not in Michelle’s case, and I think I can speak with some authority on the matter :)). You are setting up the situation in your heads as a kind of “commercial exchange”, i.e. “I get her flowers and she lets my put my cha-cha in her hoo-hoo-dilly.” Well, that’s oversimplification. When I give Michelle a present, it ain’t because I’m lookin’ for some action (all I have to do is give her “the look” and then, as Leon Phelps would say, the magic happens). Instead, I give her gifts, both large and small, because I want her to know how much she means to me. When she gets a gift, email, etc., it reminds her that I care a great deal about her and want her to feel special. She then feels close to me, and that in turn CAN spark feelings of intimacy. Same diff in the reverse situation…if she were to, unprompted, give me a random gift that shows that she cares a lot about my emotional needs (like a Playstation), you’re damn right I’d be more than willing to reciprocate with a little (K, a LOT, this is a f#$%!& PLAYSTATION here!) cunny-ringus, as my Japanese friend Tasuku says (hear that Babe? LOL). I’d bet it’s the same for most guys who give two shits about their Vixen. Oh, and Pat, you don’t seem to realize that the original thread was a JOKE. Get that? It’s a fake scenario, intended to arouse laughter. If you hadn’t had your sense of humor removed as a child, you’d understand that. Have fun doin’ the five-knuckle-shuffle!

And Horatio, with that attitude, I’d be willing to bet that you spend a lot of nights alone, making out with your pillow in practice for the day you find a “real girl” to smooch. P.S. You were HILARIOUS in that Tomcats movie…

Horatio, you’re damn right I’m a prize. So, are you one of those guys who takes a woman out for the evening and expects her to put out at the end of the night? You spend all that money, she had better give it up, right? Give me a break. First of all, the thread is a JOKE, but my responses have been in reference to some of the dumb comments posted afterwards. If you people think material things are going to get you farther than treating your partner well, showing her you care, making sure she is happy and healthy and content you are sadly mistaken. And if your partner thinks the same she’s mistaken too. Sometimes protecting her feelings means shelling out a bit of cash - such as not telling her she looks bad because she is getting a mustache, instead pampering her a bit and letting it get taken care of by a neutral third party. You know what? In the long run that WILL probably get you some! Because she is happy and feels good about herself so is much more likely to feel sexy and loved. Just like if you call her randomly during the day and say ‘I just wanted to call you and tell you I love you’ you’ll probably get some that night too. Why? Because you went out of your way to tell her you care - and that is FREE!!! This is not a one way thing either. Your woman should be treating you just as specially… oh, perhaps that is the root of all of these problems… not having a partner who makes sure you are taken care of. I’m sorry for you.

Mr. T-Vixen - don’t hold your breath. grin

Michelle – I’ve seen you recommend The Five Love Languages in the past. Have you already forgotten that for some people, receiving gifts is indeed their love language? That YOU don’t understand that or follow that just says the YOUR love language ISN’T receiving gifts. That does not negate the sentiments exoressed by others in this thread IN THEIR EXOERIENCE.

ill repeat what bill maher’s generality that he said on PI-- “guys get off on sex and women get off on shopping.” Thats basically true imo. Not that many women use the internet for Porn… not many men use the net for shopping… As far as guys that REALLY like to shop-- havent heard of a straight guy that does that.

brider - Yes, some people have ‘gifts’ as their love language. However, gifts are not necessarily expensive and don’t have to be bought. They can be hand made cards or any of a number of things. The usual complaint I see on the forum is about how much things cost. It takes no money to write a little love note and leave it on the bathroom mirror… it costs $.99 to buy a greeting card to tuck in her bag as a surprise, and a whopping $1.50 to buy a flower. If your partner has ‘gifts’ as their love language it is very easy to keep their tank full, even with a minimum of cash. All it takes is a bit of time and thoughtfullness.

Interesting – did I hit a nerve? Let’s take it a step at a time:
The idea that relationships are based on material possesions is crap. If you need to buy your “girl” trinkets to get laid then you have a pretty shitty relationship. This thread reminds me of that nice guys thread awhile back. Remember Brocks story??? || you miss the point here. If you read my previous post, you will see that I think it “sets the mood” not that it is a guarantee of sex. Obviously, that is something that is worked out by each couple in its own way. I choose to buy things for my sweetie. She likes it. || The problem with you guys is that you are out there looking for those wimpy little trophy brides who need to be pampered and taken care of, and the only thing they can do in return is give it up, or “take care of the ranch” . || Obviously aimed at me, and OK, but I think any woman that can raise two boys to manhood, run a small horse ranch, fix a broken tractor, act as office manager for an internet business, and be a great wife and friend at the same time IS a t-woman of the highest order, even if she never touches a weight. Obviously she can take take care of herself if she has to. The point is, I am happy to do it for her in those areas where I can. || Maybe you should look start looking for a real woman, a real t-vixen(they are out there if you pull your head out and look around), and quit picking on the ones that post on this site, or maybe you don’t have enough testosterone to handle a real woman. || As far as finding a real woman goes, see the above. I have no problem handling her. As far as not “picking on” the girls on this site, the give as good as they get. I don’t think they need protection. And anyway, the site called Testosterone for chrissakes! Do you really expect us all to be civil all the time? || Oh yeah not only do we go dutch, many times she pays. || I am sorry for your lack of financial success, and hope things improve for you soon.

Michelle, watch as you continue to suggest kissing the womans ass, but no mention of a suggestion for a woman to blow her man or do something he wants. You are coming from a complete womans point of view. A guy dosen’t want his woman to put a fruity notes in his gym bag, he wants a blow job. He want some sex. Also, whats the deal with your hypocrisy? In one paragraph, you talk about it not being about giving things, the next paragraph, you say give her things. Whatever. Makes it hard to keep you credible. Also, Mr. T- Vixen, thats a gay name, and I take what you say and I laugh at it. Why? because you’re a clown. Just because you’re P-WHIPPED and giving little love notes in your girls gym bag means you’re not a real man.

Just read post by “Mr T-Vixen” Much better explanation than mine. Well done.