[quote]cct wrote:
I watched Thor then Fast 5 immediately afterwards and I must say that Thor was a let down compared to Fast 5. Personally, I feel that a superhero movie should be about the journey of someone weak discovering their powers and often breaking the law to do the great good (see Hulk, Batman, and Ironman). Thor was already practically invincible to begin with. He was just a young man being punished by his father for a little while and got back his powers immediately when his father chose to give it back. He’s just a puppet under his father’s control. Also I found the development of his feeling for Natalie Portman and the worth of human life rather incoherent. Natalie just appeared to be some random slut that went for Thor’s body. Also, none of the women in this film are as hot as the ones in Fast 5. Seeing this in 3D was also blurry as hell. Loki had a very interesting ambiguous morality aspect to him, I loved when the gatekeeper renounced his citizenship as Asgard and tried to kill Loki, but the other characters were rather 1-dimensional. Odin was just a freaking deus-ex-machina in 3 fucking instances; that’s just beyond BS. I will admit that Thor looked pretty huge and the fight scenes were pretty badass. The movie would have been much better if it’s told from Loki’s perspective.
Fast 5 on the other hand had the Rock vs Vin Diesel fight scene, more hot bitches, and plenty of law breaking and compromises. I loved how the Rock’s complete no-BS attitude, but was able to help Vin Diesel when he saved his life. The Lego Robot camera scene and the bathroom explosive scenes were real clever. The best part is that I was introduced to Don Omar-Danza Kuduro, which has been played continuously for the past few days. Such a great song. [/quote]
[quote]cct wrote:
I watched Thor then Fast 5 immediately afterwards and I must say that Thor was a let down compared to Fast 5. Personally, I feel that a superhero movie should be about the journey of someone weak discovering their powers and often breaking the law to do the great good (see Hulk, Batman, and Ironman). Thor was already practically invincible to begin with. He was just a young man being punished by his father for a little while and got back his powers immediately when his father chose to give it back. He’s just a puppet under his father’s control. Also I found the development of his feeling for Natalie Portman and the worth of human life rather incoherent. Natalie just appeared to be some random slut that went for Thor’s body. Also, none of the women in this film are as hot as the ones in Fast 5. Seeing this in 3D was also blurry as hell. Loki had a very interesting ambiguous morality aspect to him, I loved when the gatekeeper renounced his citizenship as Asgard and tried to kill Loki, but the other characters were rather 1-dimensional. Odin was just a freaking deus-ex-machina in 3 fucking instances; that’s just beyond BS. I will admit that Thor looked pretty huge and the fight scenes were pretty badass. The movie would have been much better if it’s told from Loki’s perspective.
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Thor did go on a journey, he learned the value of his powers in reverse: born a god and he knew it, he was the archetypal spoiled child. Odin sending him into exile was an interesting twist on the usual morally upright weakling gaining powers to do good. Thor was initially ruined by his birthright.
Odin’s banishment of Thor to Earth was in some ways the divine equivalent of an angry father sending his son to his room for a time-out, which is why Thor’s scenes on Earth worked.
As for Odin being nothing more than a plot device - he planned the whole thing from the start…
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Odin whispers to Mjolnir “let he who holds this hammer, if he be worthy, possess the power of Thor”. The hammer was always Thor’s. Nobody else could take the power. When Thor sacrificed himself Mjolnir flew to him even though he didn’t physically draw Mjolnir out of the rock. He had to prove his strength of character to regain it, not the brute force he tried to rely on previously.
I wish Hollywood would ease up on the whole comic book adaptation thing. Don’t get me wrong, I loved both Dark Knight and Thor. But I’m seriously tired of the trend of which they are a larger part, namely the sequel/prequel/reboot/based on a fucking action figure/based on a comic book trend that seems to be responsible for the vast majority of big budget movies being stillbirthed out of Hollywood’s pussy these days. Originality is becoming a highly underrated virtue in the cinematic arts of late.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
I wish Hollywood would ease up on the whole comic book adaptation thing. Don’t get me wrong, I loved both Dark Knight and Thor. But I’m seriously tired of the trend of which they are a larger part, namely the sequel/prequel/reboot/based on a fucking action figure/based on a comic book trend that seems to be responsible for the vast majority of big budget movies being stillbirthed out of Hollywood’s pussy these days. Originality is a highly underrated virtue in the cinematic arts these days.[/quote]
They are out of ideas, they are rebooting fucking The Three Stooges. All the history of comics is perfect, it is almost a pre-made screen play even with pictures.
I am not sure if this is a spoiler or not but just in case
The previews for “The Immortals” were great!
SPOILER QUESTION
So the Shield agent that grabbed a bow instead of a rifle to take out Thor, was that supposed to be Hawkeye who also becomes an Avenger? and was the big black Shield agent Luke Cage?
I am also suprised Jane had any of her ex’s clothes still hanging around that hadn’t been bleached or cut to shreds.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ hahahahahahahahaha here you go with the maybe again.
I have no guy friends that live close to me, one is in Indiana and the other in Austin. Fact of life but I would rather go alone and see Thor than not see it and wait for DVD. I suck I guess.[/quote]
I don’t really have any guy friends here either. It’s just me and my woman. She saw Thor with me, as well as Iron Man and Iron Man 2, but for example, she didn’t want to see The Incredible Hulk so since the theater is in a shopping center, she shopped and I saw the movie alone. I don’t think it’s weird to see a movie alone if your friends aren’t keen or your wife or girlfriend is busy. Just be glad you’re not one of those people who has to see movies alone because they’re, well, those kind of people with no friends etc. I’ve seen them at the movies all the time.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
I wish Hollywood would ease up on the whole comic book adaptation thing. Don’t get me wrong, I loved both Dark Knight and Thor. But I’m seriously tired of the trend of which they are a larger part, namely the sequel/prequel/reboot/based on a fucking action figure/based on a comic book trend that seems to be responsible for the vast majority of big budget movies being stillbirthed out of Hollywood’s pussy these days. Originality is a highly underrated virtue in the cinematic arts these days.[/quote]
They are out of ideas, they are rebooting fucking The Three Stooges. All the history of comics is perfect, it is almost a pre-made screen play even with pictures. [/quote]
Hollywood is not out of ideas because Hollywood is not about filmmaking. Hollywood is about film MARKETING, delivering a product that will return the most profit. Adaptations already have an audience in place, making them a safer investment.
The only “original” works you’ll see out of Hollywood are movies like Inception, Sucker Punch, or Book of Eli because of the star power involved.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
I wish Hollywood would ease up on the whole comic book adaptation thing. Don’t get me wrong, I loved both Dark Knight and Thor. But I’m seriously tired of the trend of which they are a larger part, namely the sequel/prequel/reboot/based on a fucking action figure/based on a comic book trend that seems to be responsible for the vast majority of big budget movies being stillbirthed out of Hollywood’s pussy these days. Originality is a highly underrated virtue in the cinematic arts these days.[/quote]
They are out of ideas, they are rebooting fucking The Three Stooges. All the history of comics is perfect, it is almost a pre-made screen play even with pictures. [/quote]
Hollywood is not out of ideas because Hollywood is not about filmmaking. Hollywood is about film MARKETING, delivering a product that will return the most profit. Adaptations already have an audience in place, making them a safer investment.
The only “original” works you’ll see out of Hollywood are movies like Inception, Sucker Punch, or Book of Eli because of the star power involved.
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Fair enough Doug you for one can give some what of an insiders opinion on this. And you are correct like any business the market demands this type of product. I have yet to see Sucker Punch that would again have been me watching alone at the movies. The wife says it was to much Japanese Anime feel to it.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
I wish Hollywood would ease up on the whole comic book adaptation thing. Don’t get me wrong, I loved both Dark Knight and Thor. But I’m seriously tired of the trend of which they are a larger part, namely the sequel/prequel/reboot/based on a fucking action figure/based on a comic book trend that seems to be responsible for the vast majority of big budget movies being stillbirthed out of Hollywood’s pussy these days. Originality is a highly underrated virtue in the cinematic arts these days.[/quote]
They are out of ideas, they are rebooting fucking The Three Stooges. All the history of comics is perfect, it is almost a pre-made screen play even with pictures. [/quote]
Hollywood is not out of ideas because Hollywood is not about filmmaking. Hollywood is about film MARKETING, delivering a product that will return the most profit. Adaptations already have an audience in place, making them a safer investment.
The only “original” works you’ll see out of Hollywood are movies like Inception, Sucker Punch, or Book of Eli because of the star power involved.
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Understood. Although a movie like Inception–which had no preexisting audience but managed to do extremely well–will hopefully keep at least some of the good writers, producers, and directors working on original stuff.
I want another couple of Thor movies and a reboot of Spider-Man sounds good to me, and The Avengers is neat and i want more Star Trek with these new younger guys and I’m looking forward to The Hangover 2 and I like Daniel Craig as James Bond and anticipate the next one of those too.
But I really don’t like the genre of zombies…that’s old and chicks firing two guns and jumping sideways in leather too. I hate that.
I like chicks, but just not that hokey action movie stuff. I always liked my action movies a tad more realistic anyway (like those directed by John McTiernan)
[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
Surprised there’s been so little mention of Kat Dennings.
That’s because she wasn’t the “hot chick” in this movie. I don’t think I saw her out of her coat through the whole thing and she was dressed like a “researcher” or a hiker so clearly the goal was to downplay any hawtness she may have.
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Yeah, it’s funny…I never would have known that the chick with those gigantic beautiful tits in those pictures was the same little research minion from the movie.[/quote]
She looked “geeky” to me in the movie. I didn’t even see breasts. I assumed she had none.
All I saw was a taser.[/quote]
That’s because if they showed them in 3D they would have knocked over half the audience.