Yeah as far as the kids development goes, why wouldn’t he want to move up to the next league?
It’s like keeping the same amount of weight on the bar week after week. WHY would you do that???
Wasn’t there a kids soccer league that banned scoring because it’d make the losers feel bad?
[quote]Envision wrote:
Wasn’t there a kids soccer league that banned scoring because it’d make the losers feel bad?[/quote]
Now that is seriously messed up. Where’s the competition.
[quote]The Bambino wrote:
Yeah as far as the kids development goes, why wouldn’t he want to move up to the next league?
It’s like keeping the same amount of weight on the bar week after week. WHY would you do that??? [/quote]
I agree but a 9 year old doesn’t have the capacity to think like that. He probably wants to be with his friends and not be the one who doesn’t belong because he’s too young.
Hypothetically if a person could say throw 300mph in the pros, and his team never lost a game would it be fair to leave him in?
It would be like having a bear fight humans in MMA, its not fair. If there was such a freak that much more gifted-pretty much not human-, he would be teated just like that and we would have a Frankenstein effect.
In this case however, they can move him up.
[quote]Aggro wrote:
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I did find this quote disgusting though:
Jericho’s coach and parents say the boy is being unfairly targeted because he turned down an invitation to join the defending league champion, which is sponsored by an employer of one of the league’s administrators.
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This seems to be the key to the story. It sounds like the plot to a bad Disney movie.
[quote]AngryVader wrote:
mrw173 wrote:
What’s bad about this is that these kids are going to act just like their parents as they get older. They are going to be shielded from anything aversive, and they won’t know how to deal with anything by the time they are adults. When they have kids, they’ll do the same thing.
I saw this earlier today and couldn’t believe it:
Wait, both of these events happened in Connecticut? Red is too harsh? Looks like I better avoid that state. Or better yet, I’ll go there wearing a bright red shirt and then I’ll pitch little league games.[/quote]
On behalf of those people in my beloved state who think the above stories are complete and utter nonsense, my apologies. I have no idea WTF is going on around here. Apparently the Yankee ideal of hard work and determination (born partially out of colonial settlers being farmers on the rockiest soil known to man and saying, screw it, I’m farming anyway) has completely left the building.
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
I played hockey when I was little in upstate NY. When I was 9, we moved to Virginia. They put me in a hockey league with 13-15 year olds because of my ability compared to the rest of the kids down there. Talk about an awakening! The funny thing was, once I learned to avoid the charging kids (after my first boarding), I was fine. I wasn’t the fastest skater out there, but I was probably the best all around skater.
My point is, the leagues should be based on ability. If he’s too good for the 9-10 year olds, put him in with the 11-12 year olds. It’s not like they don’t have an alternative, like if he was 10 and too good for the 11-12 year olds. What do they do then? He can’t go up to Babe Ruth.
DB[/quote]
I am heartened by the fact that the person on this thread whose opinion I care about the most (not saying that I dont at all care about the rest of your opinions) agrees with me. Clearly I’m in good company.
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
I played hockey when I was little in upstate NY. When I was 9, we moved to Virginia. They put me in a hockey league with 13-15 year olds because of my ability compared to the rest of the kids down there.
Talk about an awakening! The funny thing was, once I learned to avoid the charging kids (after my first boarding), I was fine. I wasn’t the fastest skater out there, but I was probably the best all around skater.
My point is, the leagues should be based on ability. If he’s too good for the 9-10 year olds, put him in with the 11-12 year olds. It’s not like they don’t have an alternative, like if he was 10 and too good for the 11-12 year olds. What do they do then? He can’t go up to Babe Ruth.
DB
I am heartened by the fact that the person on this thread whose opinion I care about the most (not saying that I dont at all care about the rest of your opinions) agrees with me. Clearly I’m in good company.[/quote]
Aww, this calls for a man-hug. Not in a gay way (nttawwt), but in a 2 grown men who are fully secure in their heterosexuality kind of way.
DB
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
I played hockey when I was little in upstate NY. When I was 9, we moved to Virginia. They put me in a hockey league with 13-15 year olds because of my ability compared to the rest of the kids down there.
Talk about an awakening! The funny thing was, once I learned to avoid the charging kids (after my first boarding), I was fine. I wasn’t the fastest skater out there, but I was probably the best all around skater.
My point is, the leagues should be based on ability. If he’s too good for the 9-10 year olds, put him in with the 11-12 year olds. It’s not like they don’t have an alternative, like if he was 10 and too good for the 11-12 year olds. What do they do then? He can’t go up to Babe Ruth.
DB
I am heartened by the fact that the person on this thread whose opinion I care about the most (not saying that I dont at all care about the rest of your opinions) agrees with me. Clearly I’m in good company.[/quote]
I see your collective point, but the problem is that you are taking it from the standpoint of let’s look at these kids as athletes alone and not as what they actually are: 9 and 10 year old kids.
Why can’t this kid play with kids his age and his own friends? Solely because he is apparently TOO good for it? Now you need to move him up because you have a bunch of parents (not kids) convinced that it is a problem for their league?
I just don’t get it. What value is any of this to any of the kids, in the end?
They clearly are using his pitching speed as a scapegoat. They just dont want any blacks in the league
Shit…he has Bigorexia too.
[quote]shizen wrote:
Hypothetically if a person could say throw 300mph in the pros, and his team never lost a game would it be fair to leave him in?
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Um, yes.
They didn’t tell MJ he couldn’t play any more 
oh the memories of 10-12
we had a kid on one team…he was 13 …wtf…and he was once clocked at 80mph. I played right field,center,first base…the next year I didnt join till later and was told I could only get an outfield position and the first day I played third…
I remember once I pissed the coach off and he said I wouldnt play that game… five minutes later he was screaming for me to get back to third because the replacement kid sucked lol…I also remembered when I pitched against the undefeated team… warm ups was all oos and awws from the other team… beamed 4 kids in a row 8) lmao.
what fun
It sucks the kid has to go through that.
It sucks the kid has to go through that.
[quote]shizen wrote:
Hypothetically if a person could say throw 300mph in the pros, and his team never lost a game would it be fair to leave him in?
It would be like having a bear fight humans in MMA, its not fair. If there was such a freak that much more gifted-pretty much not human-, he would be teated just like that and we would have a Frankenstein effect.
In this case however, they can move him up. [/quote]
A fastball traveling at 100+ could potentially kill someone and even more easily seriously injure someone (see tony conigliaro)
Never mind 300mph
40 mph is going to do nothing but leave a bruised ego.
You guys saying to move him up, that’s assuming that the rest of his game is at the level to be moved up as well.
Just because the kid can throw fast doesn’t mean he’s able to hit like a 13 year old. Baseball is a tad more than just pitching. Shouldn’t he be allowed to progress his other aspects of the game at his speed?
[quote]Aggro wrote:
You guys saying to move him up, that’s assuming that the rest of his game is at the level to be moved up as well.
Just because the kid can throw fast doesn’t mean he’s able to hit like a 13 year old. Baseball is a tad more than just pitching. Shouldn’t he be allowed to progress his other aspects of the game at his speed?[/quote]
don’t pitchers bunt, or don’t they have designated hitters for that-sorry I don’t follow baseball much, but in the pros pitchers almost never hit also-
Only time I’ve seen a DH in little league is when you decide you want to bat 10 instead of 9. That 10th is in addition to the pitcher, not a replacement for him.
Throw in the fact that most leagues have pitch counts so he wouldn’t be pitching every game anyway, what would he get to do? Sit on the bench until it’s his turn in the rotation to pitch, go out there and throw then sit back down?
Not really my idea of fun, yes the pros do it, but the pros also get paid more than the average little league player.