I just came over from elitefitness.com and I think this is a premier site as far as diet and training goes. I really like the idea of the Velocity Diet, but all the results I have reading about are based on scale weight loss.
Does anybody take measurements prior to and after the diet. I would like to see some real percentages. Also, are people experiencing any loss of strength and muscle tissue. I always been more technical with my diets and training. I have read through hundreds of posts and no real percentages.
I have done a lot of carb cycling with good results. I’d like to try something new. Maybe the velocity diet could help me get into the single digit bodyfat% range. Thought I would ask you guys since this was the most recent posts on the subject. Thanks and good luck
first cheat meal was yesterday, didn’t go to crazy…had some chicken tacos on flour tortillas and spinach/artichoke dip after hitting some golf balls w/ a friend…just generally ate a bit bit more during the day…
seems that i don’t really want or have a taste for eating something really bad, i would rather just eat more healthy stuff, things like walnuts/pistachios and other good stuff i don’t get during my normal week…
and the menu for this week is…
5:00 - 1.5 scoop whey, PD, Greens +
545-715 - Surge
815 - 1 cup egg whites, 1 egg, mixed veggies, 2 low carb high protein/fiber tortillas, 1 cup oatmeal, 1/3 cup frozen blueberries, 1 apple, green tea
[quote]jtone wrote:
I just came over from elitefitness.com and I think this is a premier site as far as diet and training goes. I really like the idea of the Velocity Diet, but all the results I have reading about are based on scale weight loss.
Does anybody take measurements prior to and after the diet. I would like to see some real percentages. Also, are people experiencing any loss of strength and muscle tissue. I always been more technical with my diets and training. I have read through hundreds of posts and no real percentages.
I have done a lot of carb cycling with good results. I’d like to try something new. Maybe the velocity diet could help me get into the single digit bodyfat% range. Thought I would ask you guys since this was the most recent posts on the subject. Thanks and good luck [/quote]
hey jtone,
i did the velocity diet as kind of a kickstart to my fat loss goals…i didn’t take tons of measurements, but i did lose 9lbs (less than most, but started smaller than most)and about 3 inches off my waist…i did take pics and the changes are drastic…good luck…oh, no loss in strength either, some of my lifts even went up…
I was going to tell you that your cheat/treat/free meal was only one MEAL, but since you’re bulking and since you dno’t go crazy eating bad stuff or NOT EATING ENOUGH, I’d be willing to make it a day, so long as you get the protein you’re supposed to get, along with the fruit, beans and good fats.
Looks very good! You make this look easy. Only one recommendation. (grin) Get your third serving of fruit.
I have to admit that I’m looking forward to seeing you post your results week by week.
just had your salsa mix a couple hours ago, pretty damn good…anytime you combine tomato with red onion you can’t go wrong…pretty filling as well…
about the cheating situation…hopefully this will only happen one more time…my weekends are kinda weird since i’ve been travelling from my apt to my folk’s house so that i can watch sopranos at night (i don’t have hbo) so i spend the day with them…
so, ideally, i would just switch a single meal with a super cheat meal or whatever, then go right back on to my scheduled plan? or do i replace two meals w/ a cheat?
about the fruit, this is something i’ve been struggling with…since i really only have 2 P+C meals during the day i tried adding some blueberries to my oatmeal, but its a small bowl of oatmeal (1/2 cup) so 1/3 cup of blueberries has been ok taste wise…im hesitant to make my wake up meal into a P+C meal since i think it might be a bit heavy only 45 min before working out…maybe i could try adding some frozen cherries or mixed berries to my morning shake and see what happens…
im curios to see my results for this week as well…from what i can see by just looking in the mirror im gaining a bit of vascularity in my forearms, but i also think im gaining a bit in the love handle area and lower abs…i predict 1.5lb gain for this week…but we shall see…
this morning instead of just a whey + greens shake i did 1.5 scoops whey + greens + PD + some strawberries + 1/2 cup mixed berries…seemed to work out pretty well, did my 5x10 squats lower body day and didn’t throw up the shake, so i figure this is the way to go…
so now im getting a little over 3 servings of fruit a day…
strawberries/mixed berries in my wake up shake
apple and some blueberries w/ PWO meal
banana/pear w/ lunch…
and for my random question of the day
when i cook my morning scramble i add onions/mixed veggies and then just top off the whole pan with spinach leaves, cover and let it cook until the spinach shrinks to basically nothing…am i losing nutrients or any value from the spinach by allowing it to reduce so far?
i remember reading somehwere that certain foods have certain nutrients than become more readily available to the body depending on how they are prepared…i think tomato was the example, that if you cook it lycopene is available to the body, but eaten raw some other nutrient is available…just something i was curious about…
When it comes to diets and dietary approaches, one size does not fit all. So if you’re making progress week by week, I’d say stick with your current looser plan.
The recommendation of one cheat/treat/free meal is an absolute (not negotiable) for someone who is cutting. But since you’re doing a clean bulk, let’s give it a shot.
so, ideally, i would just switch a single meal with a super cheat meal or whatever, then go right back on to my scheduled plan? or do i replace two meals w/ a cheat?
Make sure you’re getting the foods and the amounts you’re supposed to get, but then allow yourself to relax and eat a few things you might not otherwise. Then see how your body responds week by week. You can always tighten up down the road if you feel a need.
about the fruit, this is something i’ve been struggling with…since i really only have 2 P+C meals during the day i tried adding some blueberries to my oatmeal, but its a small bowl of oatmeal (1/2 cup) so 1/3 cup of blueberries has been ok taste wise…im hesitant to make my wake up meal into a P+C meal since i think it might be a bit heavy only 45 min before working out…maybe i could try adding some frozen cherries or mixed berries to my morning shake and see what happens…
Do you realize you can take blueberries, raspberries, cherries and put them in the blender with some ice, water and Splenda and make a delightful juice for yourself? Have you ever tried blueberry lemonade? (grin)
when i cook my morning scramble i add onions/mixed veggies and then just top off the whole pan with spinach leaves, cover and let it cook until the spinach shrinks to basically nothing…am i losing nutrients or any value from the spinach by allowing it to reduce so far?
Nope, not at all! (grin) There are benefits to eating things cooked and raw. There isn’t any reason you can’t go back and forth between the two.
[quote]-----Do you realize you can take blueberries, raspberries, cherries and put them in the blender with some ice, water and Splenda and make a delightful juice for yourself? Have you ever tried blueberry lemonade? (grin)
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yup, this is what i did…water, Power Drive, greens, frozen strawberries, frozen mixed berries (blue, rasp, marion)…blend it up…didn’t add splenda, but it was pretty tastey, even with the greens…i was worried it would be too heavy in my gut and would inhibit my workout, but it was fine…
heh, since i started eating healthy 5-6 meals a day a couple months ago i feel like im always eating and when im not eating im doing dishes
some days, mostly fridays, i will be staying awake a couple hours longer than normal, so instead of my day going from 5am - 10pm, it might go from 5am - 2am or whatever…on these occasions is it best to add a snack type meal such as an MD bar and some veggies to accomodate for the extended hours or should i adjust the timing of my standard plan to last longer…hopefully this makes sense…
No, I wouldn’t recommend increasing calories. Two options:
Add another meal to the ones you eat already and reduce protein in all other meals accordingly. In other words, you’re not eating more, just dividing up what you do eat across more meals.
Spread out the meals you do eat a bit more/longer.
im not sure what kind of results i should expecti or what is realistic, but these seem like a pretty nice step in the right direction…
although there is some worry and im sure a decent amount of variance in the measurements vs reality due to tape placement/relaxation etc…the weight gain was less than i expected which is good i think (as least for my paranoia, could be due to a more carb heavy cheat meal two weeks ago than last week or simply increased volume/intensity in my abbh schedule…well, i think its safe to say that im not a hardgainer
seems like every measurement took a step in the right direction except my navel measurement, although i think this one has the highest standard deviation since finding a constant relaxed pose is quite tough…
next week i take my progress pics, which i do every 3 weeks or when there is a natural break in my training period. there is a break in abbh where the rep ranges switch so i will take pics and hopefully get a better view of whats going on…i do feel like my love handles are growing a bit, and my abs are “softening” but i cant really know if that the case or not since its kind of subtle…
I tend to prefer slightly slower, cleaner bulks. Ignore your FUDs (Fears, Uncertainties & Doubts) re love handles and abs. You’re bulking with a lot more precisions than the vast majority of the population.
You’re doing one of Chad’s programs. You may be right about the muscles holding more glycogen because you’ve increased carbs, but that’s part of creating an anabolic environment conducive to growth. (grin)
We’ll track trends and make adjustments if needed. Personally, I’m very happy with your results. You’re off to a great start, TD!!! Give yourself a pat on the back. (grin)
Exactly! I prefer slower, cleaner bulks done with MORE PRECISION. But then again, I prefer slower, cleaner cutting diets, too … once again, done with MORE PRECISION. (grin)
since our last conversation was about having a precise bulk, i decided to fuck it all up this weekend
it was pretty bad…for the first time this year (since i have been eating properly, i actually had a lot of unhealthy foods, white rice, even some ice cream…i still hit all our marks for oils/bean/protein etc, but i snacked way too much and indulged in some things i hadn’t had in 6 months or so…
i think i need to do a bit more than just create a meal plan for my 5 day work week since its pretty much leaving me flying blind for the weekend and left to fend for myself, which should be fine, but is giving me trouble since i haven’t been at my own apt the last couple weekends…now that sopranos is over i will be at my folks place less and at my apt on weekends so this should cease to be an issue…
anyways, enough with the bad, on to the good…i had ice cream, it was low fat but really good
but seriously, i had a killer workout this morning, had a ton of energy and was able to knock out my 10x5 bench/row day with much less trouble than i was anticipating…
on the way home from the gym i was thinking a bit more long term than just week by week…i lift and eat healthy for aesthetic/health/enjoyment so i dont have performance goals, so i might as well have some physical ones, so im thinking my first landmark should be somewhere around 170/175lbs to really take a look at things and decide whether or not to continue on with the bulk or take some time to cut before continuing on with bulking/maintenance…i really dont know if setting these kinds of goals makes sense since i have no idea how i will look/feel when i hit them, but i figure they are a decent enough starting place…
TD, it’s hard when you’re not in a controlled environment.
but seriously, i had a killer workout this morning, had a ton of energy and was able to knock out my 10x5 bench/row day with much less trouble than i was anticipating…
That is one of the advantages of a “Refeed Gone Wild.” (laughing)
on the way home from the gym i was thinking a bit more long term than just week by week…i lift and eat healthy for aesthetic/health/enjoyment so i dont have performance goals, so i might as well have some physical ones, so im thinking my first landmark should be somewhere around 170/175lbs to really take a look at things and decide whether or not to continue on with the bulk or take some time to cut before continuing on with bulking/maintenance…i really dont know if setting these kinds of goals makes sense since i have no idea how i will look/feel when i hit them, but i figure they are a decent enough starting place…
Goals are good!!! Of course, Option B is to bulk until you can’t stand the way you look anymore. (grin)
im just curious…do you, or most people, pre-prepare food for the weekdays and weekend when they do food prep? or do most only do it for the weekdays and then do the weekend on the fly?
