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[quote]Professor X wrote:
What kind of results? If someone is coughing and there are no other signs of a deeper disease process, you watch and see if it will resolve. That is not “incompetent” and if this is an example of massive incompetence among doctors, I am wondering exactly what you expected to happen.[/quote]

Reread my post. My point was, whether the symptoms have lasted four weeks or six weeks, either way they tell you to come back in two weeks. I’m not sure what they would do two weeks after the four weeks, but whatever it is, they should do it immediately after six weeks. I highly suspect that if I said I’d had a cough for ten weeks, they’d also tell me to come back in two weeks if it doesn’t get better.

An ENT will at least stick a tube up my nose and take a serious look. Also, he’ll have a much better idea what he’s looking for. This in fact happened about a month ago, and the ENT immediately told me my throat was irritated from (otherwise symptomless) acid reflux. More to the point, just from my description of how the cough felt, he highly suspected it before looking. It seems I get some reflux from coughing hard from a cold/flu, which causes more coughing and continued reflux. The exact same thing happened to me about ten years ago, and the doctor (a well regarded internist), shrugged his shoulders through a few visits, then prescribed some antihistamines for the post-nasal drip (caused by the irritation, but not the root problem). Finally I just waited a few months and the problem resolved itself, but a correct diagnosis and treatment would have saved me a lot of annoyance and sleepless nights.

The truth is, given the huge numbers of diseases and medical problems, you have a much better chance of getting a quick and accurate diagnosis from a specialist, especially an experienced one. Of course, there are exceptions.

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[quote]ThatGirl77 wrote:
Your attitude pisses me off. You obviously know nothing about those fields so just STFU.[/quote]

yeah i know something about those fields… they’re all bullshit!

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[quote]larryb wrote:

Reread my post. My point was, whether the symptoms have lasted four weeks or six weeks, either way they tell you to come back in two weeks. I’m not sure what they would do two weeks after the four weeks, but whatever it is, they should do it immediately after six weeks. I highly suspect that if I said I’d had a cough for ten weeks, they’d also tell me to come back in two weeks if it doesn’t get better.[/quote]

Gee, when I have patients with any disorder that I would like to see over time in order to track progression, my usual time is also two weeks or whatever specific time is available in the books around that time period. THAT is why you are told to come back. It is because whoever is taking a look at you has never seen you before and as such can’t tell if the problem is getting worse, staying the same or resolving. Often, relying on the patient for this is near useless.

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An ENT will at least stick a tube up my nose and take a serious look. Also, he’ll have a much better idea what he’s looking for. This in fact happened about a month ago, and the ENT immediately told me my throat was irritated from (otherwise symptomless) acid reflux. More to the point, just from my description of how the cough felt, he highly suspected it before looking. It seems I get some reflux from coughing hard from a cold/flu, which causes more coughing and continued reflux. The exact same thing happened to me about ten years ago, and the doctor (a well regarded internist), shrugged his shoulders through a few visits, then prescribed some antihistamines for the post-nasal drip (caused by the irritation, but not the root problem). Finally I just waited a few months and the problem resolved itself, but a correct diagnosis and treatment would have saved me a lot of annoyance and sleepless nights.[/quote]

A dentist could have possibly told you the same thing without a nasal scope. What was the treatment for the acid reflux? This is a recurring problem for you? If it is, it might be even more serious than you were told by your specialist so the recommendation would be to get a second opinion.

There are huge exceptions that make your statement completely pointless.

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To be fair though, my grandfather was correctly diagnosed with long term carbon tetrachloride poisoning by a small town GP after the best skin specialists in the country couldn’t figure it out (his only symptom was blistering skin). The difference is, this guy had seen it before.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
What was the treatment for the acid reflux? This is a recurring problem for you? If it is, it might be even more serious than you were told by your specialist so the recommendation would be to get a second opinion.[/quote]

The problem is gone now after a few weeks on acid blockers, and hasn’t returned after a few weeks off them. If I have any reflux except during hard coughing, it’s not bad enough to cause a cough, or anything else. I suppose treating the cough alone with narcotic cough suppressants would also have worked.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Gee, when I have patients with any disorder that I would like to see over time in order to track progression, my usual time is also two weeks or whatever specific time is available in the books around that time period. THAT is why you are told to come back. It is because whoever is taking a look at you has never seen you before and as such can’t tell if the problem is getting worse, staying the same or resolving. Often, relying on the patient for this is near useless.[/quote]

For the description of a cough, the patient is all they have to rely on.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
The truth is, given the huge numbers of diseases and medical problems, you have a much better chance of getting a quick and accurate diagnosis from a specialist, especially an experienced one. Of course, there are exceptions.

There are huge exceptions that make your statement completely pointless.
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What is pointless about having a much better chance for a correct diagnosis? You have to play the odds, given the information you have.

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[quote]larryb wrote:

For the description of a cough, the patient is all they have to rely on.

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For the description of anything, the patient is all you have to rely on…which is most often the worst resource for information.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
larryb wrote:

For the description of a cough, the patient is all they have to rely on.

For the description of anything, the patient is all you have to rely on…which is most often the worst resource for information.[/quote]

Indeed. I grew up knowing that my doctor (be it a homeopath or an allopathic doctor) needed to know in as much detail what was wrong with me. Every symptom I could think of, from head to toe, was discussed. It gives the doctor a clearer picture of what’s wrong.

People need to open up and talk. “I have a cough.” doe snot constitute “tlkaing” to your doctor.

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[quote]thrasher wrote:
Out of country people who ask for help on this site but are too lazy to convert kg to lb.[/quote]

People who don’t understand the metric system. :slight_smile: It’s a really easy system to comprehend.

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[quote]chinadoll wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
I think it is a generational thing. My mother thinks her Doctor is God. And when I met her Doctor I think he thought he was God also. Most of the young doctors I have met are aware that most people today are usually informed to a degree. And act as they are just practicing medicine

Hey that’s so true! I hate it when doctors I’ve known over years to be brilliant and very dedicated to their patients get verbally abused and sometimes even physically abused by people who expect instant gratification, even though they’ve been eating twinkies and McDonald’s, drinking beer and not exercising all their lives, and the doctor just met them one hour ago.

I think that uh-oh, we’re going to lose another great doc to another field again. Sucks.[/quote]

They actually get physically abused by patients? That’s sad and scary.

I often say that I only went to law school because I didn’t do well enough in chemistry to go to med school. I find medicine fascinating, and out of respect for the profession, I refused to have anything to do with medical malpractice. Most of the docs I’ve known have respected my intelligence. My one pet peeve is doctors who think they know everything, especially the ones who think that lifting weights is “bad.” My wife injured her knee skiing a few years back and her ortho told her to never do squats again because they are “bad for the knees.” He recommended leg presses instead. I was pissed.

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[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
thrasher wrote:
Out of country people who ask for help on this site but are too lazy to convert kg to lb.

People who don’t understand the metric system. :slight_smile: It’s a really easy system to comprehend. [/quote]

Thats like saying latin is easy to understand if you’ve been speaking french all your life.

SInce i work in a shop, customers who ask me if something is in stock, i tell them it isnt and they then go ask someone else, annoys me. People who walk too slow. people who take who the entire aisle with their dam trolley. 40 year old woman who think they’re sexy, fat bitches who think they’re sexy. people when they’re drunk, like “i dont know what im doing” drunk.

But i disagree with most of the comments about how docters are bad. Where i live its a matter of you tell them the symtoms, they tell you what it may be, and they run a quick physical check. They then prescribe you something and it works.

Also what annoys me is people who will sue over anything. “i fell over whilst walking on a marble floor wearing stilettos, i was afraid i had seriously hurt my knee.” You didnt hurt your knee, and you were stupid to not walk carefully on marble, that stuff is smooth anyway, and wearing stileto’s will make it even worse. “my docter diagnosed me with cancer, i sued him for $500k, you can do the same too” I know, lets tell all the docters to use a secret word instead of cancer. “You sir, have ‘plaster’, please go to the nurse and tell her, she will then knock you out whilst we attempt to treat you. If it fails, we will make sure you never knew”

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[quote]Sean_H wrote:
MikeTheBear wrote:
thrasher wrote:
Out of country people who ask for help on this site but are too lazy to convert kg to lb.

People who don’t understand the metric system. :slight_smile: It’s a really easy system to comprehend.

Thats like saying latin is easy to understand if you’ve been speaking french all your life.

SInce i work in a shop, customers who ask me if something is in stock, i tell them it isnt and they then go ask someone else, annoys me. People who walk too slow. people who take who the entire aisle with their dam trolley. 40 year old woman who think they’re sexy, fat bitches who think they’re sexy. people when they’re drunk, like “i dont know what im doing” drunk.

But i disagree with most of the comments about how docters are bad. Where i live its a matter of you tell them the symtoms, they tell you what it may be, and they run a quick physical check. They then prescribe you something and it works.

Also what annoys me is people who will sue over anything. “i fell over whilst walking on a marble floor wearing stilettos, i was afraid i had seriously hurt my knee.” You didnt hurt your knee, and you were stupid to not walk carefully on marble, that stuff is smooth anyway, and wearing stileto’s will make it even worse. “my docter diagnosed me with cancer, i sued him for $500k, you can do the same too” I know, lets tell all the docters to use a secret word instead of cancer. “You sir, have ‘plaster’, please go to the nurse and tell her, she will then knock you out whilst we attempt to treat you. If it fails, we will make sure you never knew”[/quote]

I find it easy to understand the metric system and i used SAE until I got to college. I still have to convert everything in my head to get approximations to SAE but it isn’t that hard. Plus when you are looking at chemistry and physics it is a lot easier to use metric than SAE.

On a tangent, I hate stupid people that are booksmart. Example- I had a chem prof that wanted to examine which species of corn would produce the best biodiesel. To extract the oil from the corn he built a press that was supposed to squeeze the oil out (a freakin PhD thought this would work). Thats like trying to squeeze the water out of a dry sponge, you know that there is a little bit of humidity in it, but you can’t get it out by squeezing it. Also there is a reason that the industries use solvents to extract the oil, because its the only way that works.

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[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
thrasher wrote:
Out of country people who ask for help on this site but are too lazy to convert kg to lb.

People who don’t understand the metric system. :slight_smile: It’s a really easy system to comprehend. [/quote]

We don’t use the metric system in America, if posters want help they should conform to the majority.

If I go and post on a forum in Asia should I expect them to translate my english to japanese?

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[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
They actually get physically abused by patients? That’s sad and scary.
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Yes. All the time. And to think, most of them were the “nerdy” type and harmless and are only trying to do good for their patients.

A nurse friend of mine who had three PhD’s is now permanently brain damaged after her skull was fractured in an attack by a patient she was helping. Another friend of mine has several spine bones broken at the hands of a patient she was helping. My hand was broken by a patient who I was helping and the bone permanently displaced. Very common.

But it’s common to all helping professions. Even though someone put themselves in a certain scenario and you arrive to help them, you can also be the person they see is ok to vent upon and some people vent their frustrations on their helpers verbally, physically and even with weapons.

And defending yourself from harm, you will still be to blame. Example: My nurse friend was helping a guy who was mentally disturbed who had just walked in. The guy pulled out a weapon and tried to stab my friend, who then proceeded to defend his own life by wrestling him to the ground and taking the weapon from the patient, and the patient in the scuffle suffered bruises and abrasions. Days later the guy’s civil attorney contacted the hospital admininstration about the attacker having been victimized by my friend. And my friend had to deal with all kinds of legal/job woes because of it. I can’t imagine what would have happened if the nurse who intook that guy had been one of the petite female staff members.

If legal reform for all these kinds of cases doesn’t happen soon, there will be less and less of the best and brightest practitioners out there, burned by the legal system, they leave the field and go to other fields. There truly is no support for people in helping professions who are doing the right thing. And this leaves the community with more and more of the kind of people who only go into it for the money so don’t care if they got their medical degree from a tent in a third world country or off the internet. And the best and the brightest avoiding and/or leaving the field means hospitals are more and more willing to hire just about anybody with any piece of paper. Scary. None of us are getting any younger and sooner or later we’ll need medical care. Food for thought.

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[quote]Geography wrote:

I work customer service at Publix (For those who do not have a Publix its a big grocery store). The customers are the whiniest fucktards alive. There is this one woman I saw 4 times over the Memorial weekend. She wants it in plastic then double paper and she wants it done on 3 different bills. 1 for meats, 1 for produce and 1 for anything not meat/produce. Lets not forget the best thing, she dosn’t organize the food in her cart, she does it at the checkoutline so usually theres a backup.

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I dont blame these fucktard people, I just wish I could meet their parents and tell them what a shitty job they did raising their child.

And i forgot one, nothing pisses me off more than these useless bastards that sue for everything and anything.

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People that just stop at the end of the escalater…i mean seriously, where do they expect you to go?

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[quote]Sean_H wrote:
MikeTheBear wrote:
thrasher wrote:
Out of country people who ask for help on this site but are too lazy to convert kg to lb.

People who don’t understand the metric system. :slight_smile: It’s a really easy system to comprehend.

Thats like saying latin is easy to understand if you’ve been speaking french all your life.

SInce i work in a shop, customers who ask me if something is in stock, i tell them it isnt and they then go ask someone else, annoys me. People who walk too slow. people who take who the entire aisle with their dam trolley. 40 year old woman who think they’re sexy, fat bitches who think they’re sexy. people when they’re drunk, like “i dont know what im doing” drunk.

But i disagree with most of the comments about how docters are bad. Where i live its a matter of you tell them the symtoms, they tell you what it may be, and they run a quick physical check. They then prescribe you something and it works.

Also what annoys me is people who will sue over anything. “i fell over whilst walking on a marble floor wearing stilettos, i was afraid i had seriously hurt my knee.” You didnt hurt your knee, and you were stupid to not walk carefully on marble, that stuff is smooth anyway, and wearing stileto’s will make it even worse. “my docter diagnosed me with cancer, i sued him for $500k, you can do the same too” I know, lets tell all the docters to use a secret word instead of cancer. “You sir, have ‘plaster’, please go to the nurse and tell her, she will then knock you out whilst we attempt to treat you. If it fails, we will make sure you never knew”[/quote]

Sean_H 1 kilo = 2.2 lbs Peace

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[quote]chinadoll wrote:
MikeTheBear wrote:
They actually get physically abused by patients? That’s sad and scary.

Yes. All the time. And to think, most of them were the “nerdy” type and harmless and are only trying to do good for their patients.

A nurse friend of mine who had three PhD’s is now permanently brain damaged after her skull was fractured in an attack by a patient she was helping. Another friend of mine has several spine bones broken at the hands of a patient she was helping. My hand was broken by a patient who I was helping and the bone permanently displaced. Very common.

But it’s common to all helping professions. Even though someone put themselves in a certain scenario and you arrive to help them, you can also be the person they see is ok to vent upon and some people vent their frustrations on their helpers verbally, physically and even with weapons.

And defending yourself from harm, you will still be to blame. Example: My nurse friend was helping a guy who was mentally disturbed who had just walked in. The guy pulled out a weapon and tried to stab my friend, who then proceeded to defend his own life by wrestling him to the ground and taking the weapon from the patient, and the patient in the scuffle suffered bruises and abrasions. Days later the guy’s civil attorney contacted the hospital admininstration about the attacker having been victimized by my friend. And my friend had to deal with all kinds of legal/job woes because of it. I can’t imagine what would have happened if the nurse who intook that guy had been one of the petite female staff members.

If legal reform for all these kinds of cases doesn’t happen soon, there will be less and less of the best and brightest practitioners out there, burned by the legal system, they leave the field and go to other fields. There truly is no support for people in helping professions who are doing the right thing. And this leaves the community with more and more of the kind of people who only go into it for the money so don’t care if they got their medical degree from a tent in a third world country or off the internet. And the best and the brightest avoiding and/or leaving the field means hospitals are more and more willing to hire just about anybody with any piece of paper. Scary. None of us are getting any younger and sooner or later we’ll need medical care. Food for thought.
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The legal profession affects more than just Medicine. It affects every business you deal with. I have never been sued but I have been threatened by someone not even claiming to be injured but I inconvenienced them.

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I can’t stand when I sit down to eat and someone at the table who sees that I’m in decent shape starts to tell me how everything that they are eating is great for them, and they are on such and such’s diet, and he’s a world famous dietician… I saw this on Oprah! I think I’m a sugar addict…

They are always morbidly obese.

Then they look at what I’m having, and say why are you eating that? Thats too many carbs…I’m alergic to wheat gluten… Why are you eating steak and chicken on the same meal? Oh My God! That must be 2000 calories…

Makes it very hard to enjoy a decent post workout dinner. Like I’m supposed to change my eating habits to mimick a 40 something year old, over weight houswife, because she saw something on Oprah.