Thibs New Training Questions #5

Anyone else got ideas on how to supplement for multiple workouts on the Pulse FEAST protocol…not the FAST. I understand the concepts just trying to increase training sessions without negative results. Done over 15 pulse fasts and have been Pulse FEASTing but feel I cant get as many workouts in. Ideas please…thanks

[quote]Italiano wrote:
… because it would be a weight used from a 5-rep max, not a 3-rep max. And I was just loking for a ballpark, just like Thibs gave of 87.5% and 80% lower body in his program. And those wer enumbers given considering he has not worked with 99% of the people following the HP mass program. I honestly really dount the percentage would be that far off considering you are using your 5-rep max to get you max training weight. Thanks for the link though!
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I see what you are saying now. Still that link should help and put you in the right direction, which is all those recommendations are. best of luck.

I recently included one of your (if I recall correctly, and I think I do lol) suggestions in my chest workout…

It was to set up an incline bench in the middle of the power rack and set the pulleys at the low position and have a strap around your elbow while you do DB incline presses. Anyway, I really like them and I’m seeing improvements on my chest, so I think I’ll be doing them for a while… what sort of progression should I aim for? Reps? DB weight? Pulley weight?

I’m currently using 70lb DB’s with 25lbs of pulley resistance per elbow for sets of 8-10, if that matters.

Thanks

CT, what are your thoughts on the pros and con’s of high bar vs low bar squats?

[quote]Gaby 2700 wrote:
Didn’t expect #4 to last less longer than #3.
I have to say I’m honoured to post the 1st question here.

I’m actually going to sustain a question from a guy that posted in #4 (it’s just that I’ll simplify a little):
Thibs, what’s the rule of thumb when having no oder option that to train at a low frequeny?

I mean, we’re breaking one of the way to increase mechanical loading and a main HTH principle, so how do you recommend to juggle the other factors (magnitude/intensity and volume), comparing them to the stuff used in the HP Mass program? [/quote]

I hate this question which is why I didn’t answer it before. Simply put it goes against my training philosophy. If I didn’t have a choice but to train only 3 times a week I’d probably do:

  1. Upper and lower body performance
  2. Neural charge + back and biceps
  3. Upper and lower body performance

[quote]oisin browne wrote:
Thibs, i know that you follow a different dieting strategy now but i am a big fan of your carb cycling dietry advice. im wondering have you changed your thoughts about any aspect of it?
also wondering, if there are three days of the week which are low carb, two of which contain no training, how are the carbs structured? as of course there will be no post workout carbs.
thanks[/quote]

I still apply this method with competitive bodybuilders. What I have changed is that I do not pre-plan the number of each days. I have guys on a low-moderate carb base and when the guy gets flat and is flat for 2 days in a row, I add carbs for one day.

[quote]rexdog2000 wrote:
could doing the HP mass program in a calorie deficit cause any problems like over training or lack or results?
also are BBs only good for the upper body pressing movements or are dumbbells okay too?[/quote]

DBs are fine. I don’t often use them in my programs because most commercial gyms don’t have dumbbells heavy enough for me or my guys. For example at the gym I’m training a national bodybuilding champion the dumbbells only go up to 140lbs and he can easily do 12-15 incline press with them, since my philosophy with pressing movements is to rarely go above 5-6 reps, then we’re kinda screwed.

But if your DBs are heavy enough for your strength level, their fine.

Doing any program in a calorie deficit can cause lack of results.

[quote]illgixxer wrote:
CT, if you’re recent findings about building a better back requiring “holding the contraction” why does sled eccentricless sessions work well? Would it be better to do slow contractions with the eccentricless sled work or still a mixture of explosive and slow?[/quote]

Sled work is a different animal. It’s hard to describe, but the contraction feels really different than on a regular lifting exercise. Furthermore it is not the MAIN building work, but rather a tool to increase mechanical loading and promote recovery.

[quote]AbsoluteBoxer wrote:
CT, do you feel women need more cardio than men due to the difference in testosterone and usually lower metabolism?[/quote]

No, because they tend to have less vascularization in their legs and need to activate that area more (increasing blood flow) to mobilize fat.

[quote]minsarale wrote:

Coach,thx for the reply,you wrote this in the number 4 training questions thread. When that curl is done at the end, how many sets do you have them do? And what rep range? the regular 6-8?[/quote]

4-5 sets of 6-8

[quote]ferox wrote:

[quote]mtntough@gmail wrote:
Looking for advice on multiple workouts per day on the Pulse Feast regimen.
If I were looking to train AM eccentric less would I use a scoop of ANACONDA and Surge like on the Neural Charge workouts, then Pulse in the afternoon, then hit my full workout drink in the PM around the main workout.
Or would a FINiBAR or two work for the AM session followed by an afternoon Pulse and the evening workout drink.

thanks
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Finibar contains too many calories and would take you out of being fasted. You wouldn’t be following the program anymore, hence why finibars aren’t included in the pulse fast package.[/quote]

Correct

[quote]ferox wrote:

[quote]AbsoluteBoxer wrote:
CT, do you feel women need more cardio than men due to the difference in testosterone and usually lower metabolism?[/quote]

Studies have shown that extended cardio actually lowers testosterone, it is also highly catabolic. If anything, women would need less for this reason.[/quote]

I don’t agree. Most of the studies on testosterone level and endurance work is either done on endurance athletes (who train for endurance several hours a day) or after very long events like marathons and triathlons.

30-45 minutes of moderate intensity cardio wont have that effect. In fact I personally noticed that my libido is higher when I do a moderate amount of cardio.

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
I recently included one of your (if I recall correctly, and I think I do lol) suggestions in my chest workout…

It was to set up an incline bench in the middle of the power rack and set the pulleys at the low position and have a strap around your elbow while you do DB incline presses. Anyway, I really like them and I’m seeing improvements on my chest, so I think I’ll be doing them for a while… what sort of progression should I aim for? Reps? DB weight? Pulley weight?

I’m currently using 70lb DB’s with 25lbs of pulley resistance per elbow for sets of 8-10, if that matters.

Thanks[/quote]

A yes, an oldie but goodie! Seriously there is no right or wrong way to do this. Play with it, try it with more cable resistance or more weight resistance and see how it works for you.

[quote]canada wrote:
CT, what are your thoughts on the pros and con’s of high bar vs low bar squats?[/quote]

My thoughts is that I’m gonna fall asleep if I really try to answer that question!

Put the bar on your back so that it’s solid, comfortable and doesn’t hurt your shoulders, squat all the way down and then back up… don’t overcomplicate things.

A powerlifting squat is for powerlifting.

Coach, I have read in your article,Your ticket to the gun show that if one does a incline close grip press,it hits the long head mostly.
Now my question is,i want to emphasize the long head as much as possible in this close grip db press. How high should the incline be? slight incline like under like 20-30 degrees or higher up to 45?

Also should my hands be neutral or supinated?,would a double contraction also be good? thx in advance

CT,

pardon me if I am wrong, you mentioned that for machine one can use more reps compared to its free weight version (ie machine chest press verus bb bench)

You have also mentioned that u seldom use isolation excerise unless the bbers u are training needs some body part brought up near a Competition.

In line with HP mass, would u still consider machines that utilies pushing a viable tool for performance excerise?

I mean I dun see any point in doing machines (pushing or otherwise) for low reps to “improve my performance on that machine” and I actually see machines as isolation excerises.

I was wondering wat are ur views on this?

Btw, I have adopted some of the HP mass principles into my training, and I have seen volume torlernnce and strenght go for for all my pushing excerises (flat bench, shoulders press and push press)and learnt more about how my own body works. Especially the advice on doing squats from the rack followed by normal squat and then jump squat (dunno if it can be considered PAP), I actually felt stronger as the weights goes up!

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]AbsoluteBoxer wrote:
CT, do you feel women need more cardio than men due to the difference in testosterone and usually lower metabolism?[/quote]

No, because they tend to have less vascularization in their legs and need to activate that area more (increasing blood flow) to mobilize fat.[/quote]

I’ve heard some people prefer the reclining bike or the stairmaster over the treadmill for this reason. Do you believe increased sled work would suffice?

To try getting getting lean legs, I was thinking in 15-20 minutes of non-panting cardio plus 4 leg exercises of sled. But I have some doubts:

Can I use first thing in the morning, taking during 1 scoop of Mag10? Something like Lowery mentioned, but I want to add sled and keep flowing my legs. Even some HOT-ROX or lean legs can be a trick prior.

Can affect the next workout of the day if I do lower body complex?

What guidelines do you recommend to sprinting following HP mass or complex training?

The point being is that I never ate as much carbs and food following HP mass and I keep an excellent body shape (lean as ever). Normally train twice and every day. I’m confused how manage nutrition myself with the awesome results I have following HPmass and your guidelines how to manage training, and all my variables and concepts have changed. I thought I was carb non adapted, conservative with volume…

[quote]minsarale wrote:
Coach, I have read in your article,Your ticket to the gun show that if one does a incline close grip press,it hits the long head mostly.
Now my question is,i want to emphasize the long head as much as possible in this close grip db press. How high should the incline be? slight incline like under like 20-30 degrees or higher up to 45?

Also should my hands be neutral or supinated?,would a double contraction also be good? thx in advance[/quote]

It works best with a bar. If you go with DBs it’s not as effective. However incline Tate press (do a search) are GREAT.

The angle is best best between 30 and 45 degrees.

[quote]jhng wrote:
CT,

pardon me if I am wrong, you mentioned that for machine one can use more reps compared to its free weight version (ie machine chest press verus bb bench)

You have also mentioned that u seldom use isolation excerise unless the bbers u are training needs some body part brought up near a Competition.

In line with HP mass, would u still consider machines that utilies pushing a viable tool for performance excerise?

I mean I dun see any point in doing machines (pushing or otherwise) for low reps to “improve my performance on that machine” and I actually see machines as isolation excerises.

I was wondering wat are ur views on this?

Btw, I have adopted some of the HP mass principles into my training, and I have seen volume torlernnce and strenght go for for all my pushing excerises (flat bench, shoulders press and push press)and learnt more about how my own body works. Especially the advice on doing squats from the rack followed by normal squat and then jump squat (dunno if it can be considered PAP), I actually felt stronger as the weights goes up! [/quote]

My partner and I often add machine (mostly hammer strength) chest press at the end of our pressing workout for sets of 8-10 reps. We do that instead of the isolation circuit I often mention.