If I take one thing from this program after I decide to move on, its definitely High Pulls. This exercise is giving me that 3rd look in my upper back. Shrugs aint got shit on high pulls! [/quote]
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Yeah, no kidding. Same thing goes for apower snatches btw. Been using them for years, and I pretty much discovered if you do heavy power snatches you don’t need any shrugs. I love my olympic work[/quote]
X3…My traps have also gotten bigger from SGHP than any other exercise. I also used to do heavy shrugs and got little results.
[quote]gregron wrote:
Might be an amazing program but I don’t want to have to pack a scientific calculator, abacus and graphing paper in my gym bag in other to plan my workout. [/quote]
I guess you could look at it that way…Personally I don’t think its any more complicated than standard lifting. Takes me like 5 seconds to think it up. I dont see what the problem is to be honest, or I just had an epic humor detector fail. It’s not complicated–90%, then 70%. Done.
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
So it’s basically a specific protocol of set-rep schemes with some restrictions on exercises. Can’t see this to be magically, especially if your goals are aesthetics. But I might use some of the ideas for my strength work.[/quote]
It’s whatever man. Youre welcome to be as cynical as you want. People here know I am much more a strength person than pure bodybuilding, and as such i’ve been pretty exclusively in a PL and Oly influenced style of training for years, but I like both. i’m not gonna tell anybody what program they should think is magic or not. Or what they should do or not. But you probably are missing out. I’m wider, with a thicker upper chest and both my bench and incline bench are at all time highs. Oh, and my power snatch. I call that a pretty solid win, and i’m no beginner.
[quote]gregron wrote:
Might be an amazing program but I don’t want to have to pack a scientific calculator, abacus and graphing paper in my gym bag in other to plan my workout. [/quote]
I guess you could look at it that way…Personally I don’t think its any more complicated than standard lifting. Takes me like 5 seconds to think it up. I dont see what the problem is to be honest, or I just had an epic humor detector fail. It’s not complicated–90%, then 70%. Done.[/quote]
[quote]gregron wrote:
Might be an amazing program but I don’t want to have to pack a scientific calculator, abacus and graphing paper in my gym bag in other to plan my workout. [/quote]
I guess you could look at it that way…Personally I don’t think its any more complicated than standard lifting. Takes me like 5 seconds to think it up. I dont see what the problem is to be honest, or I just had an epic humor detector fail. It’s not complicated–90%, then 70%. Done.[/quote]
I was mostly kidding and posted that for laughs.[/quote]
Aigh. I thought so. Epic fail on my part…my humor detector seems broken lately i’ll have to fix it lol
[quote]T-Mac24 wrote:
How long do you do the Layer System for and is there any type of deloading after??[/quote]
For ever!! And none.
At the moment CT hasn’t released the other portions of the system. He has hinted you can change up layers every few weeks for a new stimulus and a break from them. We shall see in time.
[quote]T-Mac24 wrote:
How long do you do the Layer System for and is there any type of deloading after??[/quote]
What corst said. The layer scheme is pretty deceptively open-ended…it looks simplistic but it is not. but you can make good gains and logical changes and continue progressing in some form. The only thing is, it’s not for cutting, and its not for athletes playing a sport competitively/in-season–too many different variables with them including conditioning workouts, agility, practices, etc.
And no deload. The layout is autoregulating, so it adjusts to how good or bad you are that day. That, i think, is my favorite aspect personally, besides the changes in my upper chest from the tilted benching. That’s the easiest thing, if you suck that day the max shows it and the rest of the workout is regulated down, if you’re kicking ass it jumps the weight up and its a hard day.
When performing the extended sets, do CT recommend dead-stop ?
And only one set performed instead of the 3 HDL ?
In the speed sets, I cannot do the speed perfect rep, it kills my old shoulders, so do I totally miss the point, if I perform like touch and go or dead-stop ?
[quote]Dot Fender wrote:
When performing the extended sets, do CT recommend dead-stop ?
And only one set performed instead of the 3 HDL ?
In the speed sets, I cannot do the speed perfect rep, it kills my old shoulders, so do I totally miss the point, if I perform like touch and go or dead-stop ?
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Extended sets are done in the same manner as all the other reps, so yes dead-stop. And no, you do 3 extended sets, not 1.
The speed layer could probably be done each way, either touch/go or dead-stop. Depends on your weakness and your preference.
[quote]gregron wrote:
Might be an amazing program but I don’t want to have to pack a scientific calculator, abacus and graphing paper in my gym bag in other to plan my workout. [/quote]
Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, but nobody wanna do no CONFUSING ASS CALCULATIONS!!![/quote]
Funniest shit I’ve heard in weeks!
Okay, I bastardised it real bad!
I have 2 weeks a month where i weight train 4 days, 2 weeks where i weight train 5 days (due to work).
I do the Push / Hips, but i follow it with a complex.
How is this shit complex? I don’t get it. This is seriously one of the more simpler systems out there.
Pick one, ONE! exercise and ramp up weight, back of a little bit and do some heavy clusters. Back off even more and do some HDL sets.
That’s it. How is that complex? Why do you need a scientific calculator to remove 10-20 lbs of the bar for some clusters?